TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 58 insightful - 2 fun58 insightful - 1 fun59 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

To my knowledge there is literally no other mental illness in the DSM where anyone would recommend responding to repeated suicide threats from the patient by capitulating to what they are demanding. Imagine if literally anyone else did that to a medical professional and how they'd be treated.

As much as I disliked the far right subs, I have to say boo-hoo to this by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL to be fair the caphillautonomouszone sub deserves all the hate and "brigading" it gets (it's probably just that half the sub regulars are there to laugh at the catastrophe) and they shouldn't have expected anything different.

But yeah, once people move off reddit they have absolutely nothing to stop those people from "brigading" other subs. Should have thought of that earlier.

My physics teacher just announced he’s transgender. by LoganBlade in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AGP is a form of "gender dysphoria", it's just not the innocent form of "dysphoria" they want you to think it is.

🍿🍿The peakening hits r/PCOS🍿🍿 by venecia in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, one of the reasons I kept my account was because I have a debilitating, life-destroying disease that has made me suicidal for years and r/PCOS was one of the only places I could find information that helped because the rest of the internet dgaf about women's health issues even more. I guess now that's gone too though.

Let's start a women's group, we say. Meanwhile, men... by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I asked for studies, not news articles, as finding the studies themselves when they aren't linked in the articles is fairly annoying.

But for example, the Zhang/Molina PNAS paper that you claim to have "seen yourself" (while linking to a press release about it and not the study itself) is likely to be retracted following a huge number of scientists critiquing its obviously preposterous claims and ridiculous methodology: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/mario-molina-coronavirus-face-masks-pnas

Here's a twitter thread about it (blue check by one of the signatories of the letter calling for retraction) explaining some of the issues and the academic misconduct that led to the study being published: https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1273659736760737793

This was a big controversy in the science community and many articles have been written about it.

Your third link links to the same study, so see above.

The lancet metastudy which is the only other linked paper uses only "observational" studies for other illnesses to infer whether or not mask use could help, but they underscore that N95 respirators are the only type of mask that shows a significant effect (i.e., surgical masks do not). All studies in this dataset are about PPE use by hospital workers in hospital settings, so it's basically impossible to extrapolate them to mask use by the public, mask re-use or cloth masks.

Can you link me to specific papers that you see "proving" that masks (any kind of mask) work for the general public in a pandemic scenario? I'll wait.

This Meghan Murphy comment from her AMA by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The same thing was pointed out years back by people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali with the term "Islamophobia" and how criticizing a religious ideology is neither an irrational fear nor an attack/bigotry on Muslims but she didn't win this battle and Murphy/other radfems likely won't win this one either. It has been a decades long assault on the common, precise and universally understood language that allowed people to communicate clearly, and even to write laws and regulations clearly. It's hard to even defend yourself against accusations in a climate when the accusations are always suitably opaque and vague and can mean practically anything.

TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And not only are their delusions being treated as reality, they are getting what they want out of uttering threats. Normally if a mentally unwell person threatens to kill themselves in front of a mental health professional or medical professional, that person is responsible for institutionalizing them until the threat has passed, not giving them stuff they want.

TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, exactly.

I think it's basically malpractice to respond affirmatively to suicide threats, as a mental health professional or other health professional, but what do I know.

Let's start a women's group, we say. Meanwhile, men... by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

not wanting to wear a mask = conspiracy theorist how?

Let's start a women's group, we say. Meanwhile, men... by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Can you link the "numerous scientific studies proving they do"? Even the WHO maintains that cloth masks don't work and the BBC science correspondent confirmed with the WHO that they stopped recommending against masks due to political lobbying, as their committee review found no evidence for wearing them.

I would love to see these "numerous scientific studies" though and I'm wondering why it would make one a "conspiracy theorist" to disagree with some scientists and agree with others. As an academic scientist I can tell you that within the scientific field people who criticize and disagree with other scientists are just called "scientists."

I guess "conspiracy theorist" is just a cheap and lazy way of saying "critical thinker" these days, which makes all us GC feminists "conspiracy theorists" wrt TRAs as well.

ETA: which are these "countries which have mandatory masks"?

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) If the prosecution could show Rittenhouse did something to provoke the mob to attack him. I haven't found footage of what happened that caused the mob to start chasing Rittenhouse, so I can't say for sure that he didn't do something that would reasonably provoke them here he could use that as an excuse to shoot them.

^ I have the answer to your question here. He brought a fire extinguisher to a fire they were trying to set at a gas station, and after the fire was put out the first attacker (pedophile in the red/orange shirt) became outraged and started shouting racist slurs and telling people to shoot him. he seems to have picked kyle out of the crowd later and gone after him specifically, but at first he indiscriminately attacks various members of the militia who put out the fire. that's the video where he's confronting the militia - it was moments after the fire he was trying to set was put out. he starts chasing kyle and grabbing his gun apparently immediately afterward.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the converse - treating women like they are automatically healthy because they are NOT fat - is a serious problem as well. When I started gaining weight due to multiple serious illnesses, I went to dozens of doctors to talk about what was happening to my body and without exception was told to stop worrying because I "look fine." The fact I threw up all food and even water and tea on the regular and gained 50% of my bodyweight in a couple months didn't matter to doctors because the metric we REALLY use for whether young women are "unhealthy" enough to need a health intervention is whether they look pleasing, not whether they are well. By the time I had become morbidly obese after years of begging doctors for tests, I was finally taken seriously and diagnosed - but haha too late, now I'm informed it is basically impossible to lose most of the weight back, and the damage to my joints, organs, etc. is already done.

Luckily I may be in the tiny minority of people who can lose and keep off weight, no thanks to the doctors who tortured me for years because I looked 'hot', but most women don't have the science credentials I do to leverage against their healthcare providers or trawl the scientific literature for solutions on their own.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

thanks for your patience in explaining this. the one thing you can rely upon with anti-HAES people is that they have absolutely no idea what HAES is or promotes. just another excuse to hate unfortunate people for something that is largely outside of their control and vilify them for actually pursuing an improved life. people getting angry about people following HAES reminds me of TRAs getting angry at detransitioners who have accepted what they cannot change and started making positive changes in their lives. "no, stay miserable and self hating forever!" most people don't even realize how deeply their concern trolling about fat people reflects a deep desire to feel superior to other people rather than any genuine concern for their health or well-being.

I believe there's a divide between radfems and gender critics who aren't necessarily radfem by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't really call myself anything but while in radfem spaces I try to align myself with radfem stances as much as possible. That is, if there's ideas I have that are not really in agreement with radical feminist politics, I tend to keep them to myself in radical feminist spaces.

I have stopped wanting to label myself as part of any political/ideological group in recent months since I think there's a lot of purity testing and expectations of conformity that go along with that basically always. I don't want to delimit my beliefs in that way since I'm reasonably young and they're frequently changing. I'm here because I support women and women's liberation generally and I am pretty incensed by the censorship of r/GC, although it was grating to me in the last year or so and I had stopped posting there for the most part.

r/PCOS back up again, with male and trans mods according to one member by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I want a sub about PCOS elsewhere but where?

Men's Health magazine. How to choke a woman. I don't want to live on this planet. by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's disgusting that you're saying something like this on a feminist forum. Preteens very rarely knowingly "seek out" companionship with abusers. You don't know someone is an abuser by looking at them. Jesus what a disgusting thing to say.

TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Where are they complaining about us? LMAO of course we were just going to move to other forums.

Too bad about some of the subs that will be tough to revive, like debates though.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a liberal who thought he was a mass-shooter nut job until I looked into it. There are so many lies in this case, mostly coming from the Left. It's kinda shocking.

Unfortunately the group that now calls themselves the left often lies shockingly, to the point where it is no longer shocking to me. As soon as I heard there was a 17 year old 'mass shooter/white supremacist terrorist' in Kenosha (who killed 3 white men for some reason?) I immediately assumed something was up and went to find the actual unedited video footage because you can be about 99% sure the media is lying whenever a headline like this gets run these days. I was not at all shocked to find that the footage told a completely different story.

Jacob Blake was a serial rapist and was shot for resisting arrest at the scene of an ongoing rape (alleged) but the left is staying oddly silent on that as well in their rush to lionize him (and eulogize him since a lot of them appear not to have noticed he isn't dead). This is just another example of women and children being thrown under the bus and ignored if it's politically expedient, and I hate seeing radfems take the bait and join in.

r/periods got brigaded today. how long till they go the way of r/pcos? by spicyramen in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

im really mad about r/pcos still, i really needed that sub, although now I don't want to use reddit. It helped me solve problems i couldn't get my doctors to solve for years. i can't believe men are really trying to take/ruin everything.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

he was and it's clear to see from the video.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i'm defending the kid who defended himself against a pedophile rapist and wife beater and i'm a radical feminist woman.

i can't believe fucking RADFEMS are caping for literal VIOLENT SEX PREDATORS who attempted to murder a child who was running away.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He was shot at the back as he fell - being shot in the front and side of his body first. The fatal bullet (and likely first bullet) was to the front of his groin. It shattered his pelvis and he bled out, according to the last coroner's report I saw. There are eyewitnesses including a reporter who was in the line of fire saying kyle only shot the attacker after he was cornered and the pedophile made not one but TWO attempts to grab his gun. There is no way a shot in the back was the first shot.

He showed up to a protest to act as a field medic, and had a weapon to protect himself since the national guard stood down and police were not preventing local buildings from being torched. He gave an interview maybe 5 minutes before the shooting saying so, in fact.

Men's Health magazine. How to choke a woman. I don't want to live on this planet. by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of the time they're not really 'partaking in strangulation for the kicks.' When I was a teenager a guy kissed me for a few minutes/seconds maybe and immediately choked me without warning after starting to kiss. I wasn't exactly able to say anything about it because I was shocked and also being choked, obviously. I didn't continue seeing that guy after that, but he did it so casually I thought I was the weird one for not feeling OK with it. I told a female friend afterwards and she laughed and acted like it was normal. It took a few months to admit to myself that it wasn't, and by that time I was no longer in contact with the man in question.

I don't think it makes sense to blame the teenage girls who are being made to believe this is as normal as hugging or kissing.

TRA wants to murder me by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs always be like that.

what happened on r/PCOS in screenshots by gparmesan in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I knew this already because I was a regular lurker (this was only one of maybe 5 similar threads that ended up happening with similar results) but LMAO thank you for that link. They are really going lengths to pretend they're not just suppressing their own userbase.

LOL at them deleting every instance of someone asking if the new mods even have PCOS. Gonna assume they don't.

🍿🍿The peakening hits r/PCOS🍿🍿 by venecia in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah they just made that sub now supposedly to deal with the "transphobia" on the original sub, but if you look at discussions on other PCOS-related subs, most of the highly upvoted comments by users of r/PCOS are saying they don't want to join the new sub and be language policed.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

no it's not. it's legal and he was doing it to protect himself while he rendered medical aid to protesters.

Men's Health magazine. How to choke a woman. I don't want to live on this planet. by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Go ahead and blame all the people who for decades have been eating breads, cereals and low fat yogurts for now having weight and hormone issues because the government, scientists, and society at large lied about what healthy food was for half a century.

Or maybe don't and realize that people don't just come out of the womb knowing everything there is to know and equipped with the tools to stand up to society, culture, and larger/stronger human beings (aka the boys/men choking these girls/women, who might get hurt even worse if they fight back).

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

source on him being a white supremacist?

not everyone here will be anti-gun. on the contrary many radical feminists are pro-gun. the child clearly saved his own life that day because he had a gun, instead of getting killed by misogynistic felons.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

HAES is not a science denial movement and is heavily scientifically supported. It was started by a group of obesity researchers with MDs and PhDs and is increasingly gaining traction with more and more researchers and clinicians. The "overlap" between HAES and trans activism may simply be that young people are more likely to be aware of/involved in both than older people, who either no longer care about getting healthier or aren't following new scientific and social developments.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

imagine thinking that it makes sense to "tell fat people they are wrong" for being fat and wanting to eat healthy/exercise. lmfao.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there is no connection. fat people wanting to be treated like human beings and trying to improve their health has no parallel whatsoever in men wanting to be treated not LIKE HUMAN BEINGS but specifically like women and for taxpayers to pay for the further destruction of their healthy bodies.

the posts on the old GC subreddit about this were equally bigoted and idiotic. just admit that you want there to be at least one socially acceptable group to punch down on and give it a rest.

i'm a former model and fat due to a hormonal disorder that affects exclusively women (made worse by rape PTSD which is one of the main causes of weight gain in women) and i've been a lifelong serious/competitive athlete at a level most women can't even imagine. the idea that fat women have 'never played sports' is stupid enough without the addition of your attempt to stigmatize fat women getting active and STARTING TO PLAY SPORTS which is what HAES promotes.

A blue check saying that WOC are masculine so it is RACIST to believe transwomen are not women and only RACISTS feel that way... This makes me feel amazing as a black woman! by throwawayfuckreddit in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL woke people I know started saying black women are ~not really women or ~not feminine thus transwomen are women way back, like 5 or more years ago, and I was absolutely shocked that it was apparently now acceptable and encouraged to say something so racist. Now it's just standard leftist rhetoric. Remember when everyone was saying Serena Williams looks male? Because she has defined shoulders? LMFAO imagine being that racist.

How do you really feel about Joe Biden saying his VP pick will be a black woman? by medium_tomato in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is that other people who don't get their jobs based on merit at least give the impression that they did. When people see women getting positions BECAUSE they are women it undercuts all the women getting those positions "normally" (even if the normal way is nepotism etc.) in the eyes of the public and discourages girls from trying to actually achieve things in the future.

I know this is not a popular opinion among radfems but I don't like the implications of wanting to select a female politician from available female candidates simply because she is female. I don't think it will be good for women in the long run.

I also think that whoever Biden picks as VP is likely to be barely more competent than Biden himself, which will be an optics disaster if it ends up being a minority woman. No one remotely intelligent would be associating themselves with Biden.

the role of yaoi/anime bL in the “gay” tif (specifically tumblr/twt) community by gencritcurious in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does anyone remember mpreg? When I was a teen a lot of my friends in school who grew up to be trans men/enbies were really into mpreg fictions and stories. At the time I was completely baffled that the "mpreg" genre even existed but now looking back it's obvious that m/m fanfictions and comics weren't really about or for men at all and that's why the male characters got pregnant in so many of the popular stories.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I tried some alternative therapies for some of my health issues which actually had a good track record of showing efficacy in clinical trials - a lot of medications that actually work are only "naturopathic" because they are natural and thus can be sold OTC without a script, but can do similar things to drugs on the market. Ephedra is one example from Chinese medicine. For a lot of women with weird health issues no one knows how to treat, this makes naturopathic medicines attractive I think BECAUSE it is all OTC and doesn't require a prescription, and therefore self-medication is possible.

They actually did help (I had a very clearly quantifiable symptom which resolved almost immediately upon starting them), and my GP ended up telling me to keep it up, so it's not even like doctors don't accept "alternative" therapies at times. I had a specialist actually recommend an OTC "natural" medicine for a symptom once.

Ok I want to ask this in a forum of only women since all our spaces are taken. It's about running a fever a week before your period? Sorry if not allowed mods by 100_percent_truth in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I do (not for a full week though but sometimes for up to 3 days or so). I have PCOS and pretty severe endometriosis, which may have something to do with it. I would try to find a gyno or doctor and go over any other unusual symptoms you may have, as it may be something like endo.

How much porn conversation is normal when hanging out with guys? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

None. Zero.

I would definitely not hang out with that guy ever again.

Is there no space for women on the left? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I think it's fairly centrist with Freddie Sayers being the former editor of YouGov and the founder wrote for the Independent and the Telegraph, I believe. It's one of my favourite news sources currently, with a lot more actual journalism than bigger news sites are doing and no paywall. Their lockdowntv videos were really interesting and the interviews didn't involve too many leading questions.

Farewell, GCdebatesQT by DogeWalker in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

what happened with spinster?

🍿🍿The peakening hits r/PCOS🍿🍿 by venecia in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately I used that sub for actual information about PCOS and have really needed it lately. I'm pretty upset it's gone private. A lot of women actually really needed the information on that sub, as no one cares about women's health issues and it's basically impossible to find good information about treating PCOS most places on the internet.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

in that case I agree, but I'm bothered by the double standard that has kept everyone I know silent on the numerous children (many armed with automatic rifles, ironically, as in CHAZ) who have been involved in protests since Floyd's death but made them suddenly speak out on this particular 17 year old being at a protest. I am not implying you are one of those people, but this is really the first time I have seen this argument made by leftists and I'm surprised it's coming up suddenly.

Personally I think any non-adult should be kept away from protests/riots that are or are likely to turn violent, so I agree with you in principle. I don't think his mom had any say in him going though, as I understand it he went straight from work and after-work volunteerism, so I doubt she was involved in taking him.

Does anyone else just feel hopeless with PCOS? by medium_tomato in PCOS

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I'm at this point too. The pandemic restrictions here were severe and I couldn't see the doctor (I was supposed to get on metformin in february but haven't been able to contact a doctor since), go to the gym or purchase any home exercise equipment so I gained all the weight back I'd lost with great difficulty over the preceding year (some 40lbs or so). I had lost it by going to the gym and lifting heavy 5-7 days a week, other exercise and a really strict diet. I kept up the strict diet but the heavy lifting was obviously necessary to maintain the weight loss, and I have over 100 to lose (was misdiagnosed for 7 or so years and put on diets and medications that made me gain about a combined 70lbs on top of the initial PCOS weight gain). I feel like I will never claw my way out of this hole now. I used to be a model, do multiple very taxing sports at a competitive level, and most of my hobbies were athletic or active in nature. Now I have given up almost everything I used to love, I feel ugly and unwell all the time, and my constant severe insomnia/exhaustion have made me drift from many of my friends who still do the "fun" things I no longer can.

Recently gyms reopened and I lost 20lbs in under a month though, honestly on a torturous diet fasting completely 3-4 days per week, eating low carb/OMAD the other days, and working out heavily almost every day, but I'm trying not to give up. You probably shouldn't either because giving up seems more miserable than perservering.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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He did shoot the guy "in the head" first but missed/grazed him, which was probably the shot that flew past the reporter. The fatal shot which I think dropped him was the groin shot, then the shot in the back must have been after he started falling as you can see he rotates as he falls.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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TBF the 30-40somethings there were clearly not emotionally mature enough to be in the situation, but he was. I've never been pro-gun but watching the video of the altercation was absolutely amazing as this child showed extreme restraint, calm and quick thinking in a situation that could have turned deadly for him. He avoided shooting at/injuring anyone who wasn't directly causing a threat to his life at the moment (apparently that reporter was in his line of fire behind his aggressor but didn't get hit) and immediately turned himself in to police after running away. That's a level of clearheadedness that you don't see from cops or army or people way older and better trained with weapons than he was.

I agree that in general children should be kept away from violent riots/protests but at the moment they are not, and it is common for people to bring even their small children to such events. I find it curious that this PARTICULAR child was apparently too young to be somewhere with a gun while the hundreds of other minors at riots (many with weapons) have been given a pass until now and people like myself saying it's inappropriate to bring small children to riots have been mocked as conservatives/puritans until now. Not saying you were one of those people, but I'm suddenly seeing this argument everywhere when I never saw it before.

He also had firefighting training, EMT training (he was there working as a medic) and a job as a lifeguard, so he had relevant skills he thought he could use at the protest.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there is no such video, there is a video allegedly showing this but it doesn't look like kyle and no one has confirmed it was him.

imagine being in this sub and defending rapists and wife beaters and pedophiles who tried to kill a child after trying to burn businesses in a riot.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol being a 'racist' (hearsay - proof?) and 'showing up' to be a volunteer field medic at a violent riot after being asked is worse than being a repeat offender pedophile, rapist and wife beater? Maybe you shouldn't be on a feminist forum if you think this.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

kyle will walk anyway, everything he did was 100% self defense. the people he ended up killing (who tried to kill him first) were convicted pedophiles and wife beaters attacking a child for helping put out a fire they were trying to set at a gas station.

whether she is charged as an accessory or not nothing whatsoever will happen because there is video clearly and unambiguously showing everything he did was self defense. the only charge that may stick is possession of a firearm, and his mom probably wont be culpable in that since AFAIK the firearm was borrowed from an acquaintance and his mother had nothing to do with acquiring it.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice dig at people with serious illnesses there.

Men's Health magazine. How to choke a woman. I don't want to live on this planet. by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, actually having a man choke you without asking literally is trauma and abuse. So yes, all the women who have experienced this have been the victims of it.

Someone said "let's not just talk about TRA's all the time." Can we finally talk about this? Or are we still too afraid of this, too? by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seems like you are not "gender critical" at all.

Creepy support of pedo organization by twitter by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I don't recall when exactly, but if you read their TOS/rules it's actually explicit in the rules. They have a specific section of their rules that's all about which pedophilia content is allowed.

But women are not allowed to call TIMs by male pronouns or they will have their accounts deleted.

Creepy support of pedo organization by twitter by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, Twitter did literally go out of their way to change their policies to explicitly allow pedophilia talk and communities on their platform, and yes, many of those people are TRAs pretty publicly. It's hard to deny at this point.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

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To be fair most contemporary psychology research is actually biology research, and involves stuff like staining brain slices, genetically engineering rats to have cancer to measure their hormone levels, etc.

But the woo-woo "personality psychology" and clinical psych fields are... a mess. Anything to do with the DSM in particular is politicking all the way through.

Is there any GC-friendly content on Netflix? by worried19 in GenderCritical

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IDK if it's up on netflix anymore or if it's available in all countries, but Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries was a pretty fun show (crime procedural) with a female protagonist that was set in the 20s and thus didn't include any trans-related content. The female protagonist wasn't exactly "GNC"in appearance (although her behaviour was, at least by 1920s standards) but was a pretty cool nuanced female character doing a "man's job" and there were several other interesting female characters on the show.

It's so funny to me that Reddit is claiming TERFs were brigading different women's subs (like r/PCOS and r/pregnancy) like there weren't radfems in those subs to begin with by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

PCOS causes hormonal problems with hormones other than testosterone, and arguably those are more common and dangerous. So even if a TIF is injecting T on purpose, she could be going there for support related to other PCOS symptoms like hyperinsulemia and hypercortisolism, which can lead to diabetes, severe anxiety/depression, insomnia, etc. I have PCOS but I don't have hirsutism, balding, weight gain mainly in my stomach, or any of the other symptoms that "make women look more male" except I build large muscle much easier. But it is really debilitating in other ways and has rendered me nearly disabled.

Lots of TIFs and enbys dont even take T anyway, they just "identify" as non-women.

r/PCOS back up again, with male and trans mods according to one member by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I agree. I would really like an equivalent of r/PCOS - I had just started reversing some of my worst PCOS symptoms with no help from my doctor, largely based on the recommendations from that sub. A lot of people need resources like it, but already so many people have left or been booted from the sub because they are evil wrongthinkers i.e. sane.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

One would think.

TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men by weirdthorn in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly it totally is a thing that men do lmao.

Benjamin A Boyce: The Rise of Unreason | with James Cantor, PhD by catoboros in GenderCritical

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He does promote paedophilia. Like I said in another post, he promotes paedophilia as a sexual orientation (and thinks there should be a P in the LGB), he is against jailing pedophiles including offending pedophiles, etc. This normalization of pedophilia and insistence that pedophiles should be free and allowed to perpetually reoffend is indistinguishable from pedophilia promotion.

He was also the consultant on the Twitter decision to allow pedophilia posts on Twitter. What is that if not PROMOTING PEDOPHILIA? They are allowed to openly post pedophilic content because of Cantor.

The "support" that "non offending" (lmao you mean not convicted/caught) pedophiles get through therapy actually increases offending and helps them further evade the law.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AFAIK she drove him across state lines to work, since he worked in Wisconsin. Don't quote me on this, I'm not 100% sure, but according to his lawyer's statement I think she drove him to Wisconsin where he worked as a lifeguard, he got off work and went to his volunteerism "job" cleaning graffiti, then went directly with a friend to the protest in response to a call for protection from a car dealership that had dealt with multiple arson attempts the previous day. I don't think his mom was involved in the job > volunteerism > protest part of the day, just initially driving him to work.

I might be wrong though, but she apparently didn't drive the gun across state lines and he got it from someone he was volunteering with as I understand it, so doubtful that she drove him to the protest directly.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

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Very true. I know how easy it is to scoff and feel superior to fat people as a thin person, because this used to be me. I was a fashion model and despite having a borderline eating disorder in an attempt to push myself below a 15 BMI, I had been 'naturally' thin my whole life after a brief stint with binge-eating in my preteens, up to and including my mid 20s. I always thought it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get that fat, all you have to do is eat in moderation and maybe be slightly active, how could people do this to themselves, etc.

Then I got raped and my lean PCOS turned into non-lean PCOS as the trauma triggered my cortisol and insulin to insane levels. I couldn't eat almost at all for years but my bodyweight tripled in a short time. I begged doctors for help but they kept telling me I 'seemed fine' and 'looked fine' and refused to test my hormones, until I was morbidly obese. Due to my endometriosis I was also essentially forced onto low estrogen birth control, which made me gain 50lbs in 2 months when I was already struggling with my weight. Only after I reached cat 3 obesity did they start telling me to eat less and starve myself, which I was already doing, but I did it more resulting in a couple of near-death experiences and further weight gain.

I have a graduate degree in a biomedical field and am a professional research scientist. It's not like I'm stupid. I also have a long history of tolerating near-starvation extremely well and have never had any issues with self control or appetite. I haven't had a sugary drink in decades and I'll eat sweets maybe once a year. But I was devoting every minute of every day to trying to lose weight. I sometimes went 1-2 weeks without eating ANYTHING at all and only drinking water, but at the end of such a fast would lose very little weight which was almost immediately regained after eating one meal. Finally I decided to deal with the root causes of my weight gain - a hormonal illness, PTSD trauma, a shot immune system from years of borderline-anorexia to maintain fashion model measurements into my 20s, and an obsession with losing weight that was making my completely neglect my ACTUAL HEALTH. Sure, I was going to the gym and weightlifting 6-7x a week, and I was eating "healthy" foods, but I wasn't paying any attention at all to my actual well-being and when I coughed up blood routinely from starvation and spit it out while walking down the street to my workplace I actually felt proud of myself that I had enough self control to get to that point.

I have finally lost a significant amount of weight basically effortlessly, without starving myself or ever being hungry, after I've started to address my hormonal issues and my out of control trauma and stress. I doubt I will ever go back to being thin but I am starting to feel like a real living person again, not a walking corpse. Ironically none of my self-hatred relating to my weight had anything to do with being 'entitled to feeling attractive' or angry at people for not being attracted to me - I had plenty of people still openly attracted to me including people who I had dated when I was still model-thin, my close friends didn't make a big deal out of anything, etc. What did make me feel awful was the people constantly implying I was lazy, didn't care about my health, was just too stupid or low on self-control to make changes, etc. It was the torture and stress of family members calling me disgusting names and side-eyeing me if I ever put a single morsel of food into my mouth in their presence. It was knowing that people didn't believe me about the debilitating symptoms of my multiple chronic illnesses and assumed an unhealthy lifestyle was to blame. It was relatives forcing me to push through hikes with a sprained ankle because it would 'make me stronger.' Attractiveness never was the issue for me, people's inhumanity was.

For me the most crushing thing was also that as a lifelong athlete I had to give up the 4 sports I had been doing intensely for years. I had to give up hobbies and fun. Not because I was fat (sure, being fat makes athletics harder but I can do them now and I'm still fat) but because I was ignoring my ACTUAL HEALTH and hoping starving myself would solve the problem.

I agree with you that I don't completely buy permanent weight loss is impossible - I think it is impossible on the modern recommended diet for a lot of people, since we are ignoring real medical science about diet, exercise and obesity in order to keep promoting certain subsidized industries and of course the possibility for the lucky 'naturally thin' to feel smug and sanctimonious. The beauty industry is a racket and so are the diet and food industries, to a large degree. I'm not on board with absolutely everything about the HAES methodology and permanent weight loss is still a goal for me but I needed to put my health REGARDLESS OF SIZE first in order to see any improvement in either health OR weight. Imo it's a big step forward from 'fat people just eat less ha ha.'

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

why shouldn't he have been there?

if he were a black PRO-BLM field medic would you still be saying he shouldn't have been there?

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd also like to see evidence for this :)

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

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may be worth considering who is acting like a narc in this situation. what is with the entitlement to other people's bodies?

I’m so sick of unequal comparisons between women and men on reddit by Confuzzled in GenderCritical

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I think it is/can be both but I see the "grow up" meaning more in my personal life than the "don't be so feminine" meaning. There is even a phrase a lot of people use (mostly women), "woman up," which also means "grow up" rather than "don't be masculine."

How do you really feel about Joe Biden saying his VP pick will be a black woman? by medium_tomato in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why is it that Americans don't want what the rest of the developed world has and celebrates?

This seems to go a lot deeper than individual politicians or even parties (democrats don't support M4A either, generally speaking - the party certainly doesn't) but it's such a weird anachronism.

How do you really feel about Joe Biden saying his VP pick will be a black woman? by medium_tomato in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know what you think tokenism is if old white racist pedophilic molester Biden "picking" a black woman for VP isn't tokenism.

SOURCE WARNING (conservative): Antifa anarchist brags about his "female penis" on Reddit by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The BLM organization itself is a TRA organization (read their about on their website), and antifa is similar in that regard although they have the cover of "not being organized" (they are). Antifa definitely does operate as a terrorist org even if a lot of the hangers-on to antifa are just regular kids who care about social justice.

It is pretty par for the course for people with sinister motives to hijack or seek cover under organizations that 1. promote anonymity during violent altercations, 2. get a lot of funding to "disrupt" society in various ways, 3. don't have official leaders participating in/leading protests and thus make it hard to hold anyone accountable for the actions of the group.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are entirely correct that masks are just safety theater to make people feel safer and calmer and like they are "doing something."

I am also sick of being asked to make my chronically ill ass sicker so that other people feel like they have control over nature.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Denying that putting some piece of cheesecloth on your face in the midst of the summer is necessary or useful for preventing a mild flu-like illness is not "anti science" like denying sex is, and I really wish people who don't seem to understand how science works would stop railing on about their fav pet theories and how everyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong.

Sex is a provable, observable reality that has been observed for millennia and is extremely well understood. It is indeed crazy for people to pretend not to believe in it. The same does not hold for masks, or even to some degree for vaccines, since it's not inherently reality-denying to refuse to take a medication even if it is for a stupid reason.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

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I am a currently working scientist and I agree w/ you and thank you for your thoughtful posts on this thread, this whole narrative as a scientist has just been exhausting. A bunch of people with no clue how the scientific method works screaming at people who are actually informing themselves that they're "anti-science" is just another thing I didn't feel like dealing with this year.

Removeddit archive of PCOS insanity on Reddit. by BettysBitterButter in PCOS

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol i sent that removeddit thread to a bunch of my friends, who were all in total disbelief.

MP who accused JK Rowling of 'weaponising abuse' resigns from front bench. by millicentfawcett in GenderCritical

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TBH I don't agree with his resignation since I suspect it was more to do with pro-Palestinian sentiment than the Rowling thing.

Whatever your views on the Israel-Palestine conflict, the fact Israel's government has such a stranglehold on UK and US politics is troubling.

The one reason we all can't speak our minds is cancel culture. Cancel culture was created by so-called progressive democrats. I've only ever voted Democrat in my life, but I just can't support that anymore. Don't downvote till you've read please. by 100_percent_truth in GenderCritical

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Ayaan Hirsi Ali did some good interviews probably a decade ago about why she chose to work with the Heritage Foundation. Maybe since she's a black middle eastern ex-muslim feminist people will take it seriously coming from her. I did and I stopped judging her for it.

First they came for the socialists, as they say.

How long till r/ PCOS gets banned? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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They claim it is due to brigading by "TERFs and FARTs" but I think they just suddenly discovered most of their users are "TERFs" and freaked

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

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Where's that conclusive proof then? You must have heard of it before the WHO did.

Countries making masks mandatory when COVID-19 is no longer an epidemic there and in the middle of non-flu season is just hilarious security theater to make it seem like politicians are doing something to "keep people safe" when they're actually safe because the epidemic is over.

Benjamin A Boyce: The Rise of Unreason | with James Cantor, PhD by catoboros in GenderCritical

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You said he's not promoting pedophilia, and now you're admitting he is promoting pedophilia but that's fine because he makes a distinction between pedophilia and child molestation. Clearly he is promoting pedophilia in the tweet, thanks for linking to the proof.

Pedophilia is not a mental disorder.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i'm not astroturfing, I've been a GC regular for 3+ years now, have you?

seems like the people who want to cape for rapists and wife beaters are astroturfing. this is a FEMINIST sub remember.

Benjamin A Boyce: The Rise of Unreason | with James Cantor, PhD by catoboros in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here is a quote from Cantor's Twitter: "Pedophilia is NOT inherently wrong or harmful."

Another source on how Twitter's promotion of pedophile networks has led to further child abuse content: https://archive.is/TDDDE

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

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Your original comment very clearly did imply that you think HAES itself is wrong. It was a response to the OP which said there's a type of women who support HAES philosophy and you put it down to "a general psychology of never wanting to tell anyone they're wrong, even when they're doing things that harm themselves or others". I then responded "imagine thinking that it makes sense to "tell fat people they are wrong" for being fat and wanting to eat healthy/exercise" and you responded "Sometimes we have to be "judgmental" and tell people that we think they're hurting themselves by continuing their behavior." If this is not a clear implication that you think you "have to" tell fat people they are wrong for wanting to be healthy and exercise, I don't know what it is. It seems pretty unambiguous to me in context but maybe you meant something different.

No one is denying that obesity can led to health problems, including the obesity researchers who started the HAES initiative. The point is that you are telling people you need to tell them they are wrong for TRYING TO IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH. Which is what HAES is about. It is about people trying to improve their health, independent of their size.

You are saying you feel like you have to tell friends and famiy members who are fat and trying to improve their health that they are wrong for doing so. There's nothing at all positive or defensible about this position.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

HAES is a method/strategy of helping fat people become healthier and you are arguing that it is wrong and you think you should shame and discourage people who want to improve their health as fat people. Not sure what's confusing.

Benjamin A Boyce: The Rise of Unreason | with James Cantor, PhD by catoboros in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate the pedophilia-promoting piece of shit, but I agree about academic freedom and free speech. Up to and including vile opinions like his own of course.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

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you're hurting yourself and others by continuing this ridiculous behaviour of sanctimoniously telling fat people to stop caring about their health. you're free not to listen though.

imagine literally wanting fat people to kill themselves and ruin their health because you hate the normalization of fat people becoming healthier.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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there's no confirmed video of him punching a girl and the boy in the video doesn't even look like him.

the other three men were misogynistic pigs definitely.

The Democratic National Convention on Tuesday featured a panelist who identifies as a “nonbinary/gender transcendent mermaid Queen-King” by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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no one cares about this. virtue signaling is more important than saving lives by keeping violent felons behind bars.

Someone said "let's not just talk about TRA's all the time." Can we finally talk about this? Or are we still too afraid of this, too? by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Late but like I said, femininity is ritualized submission. What we consider 'feminine' traits are literally just submissive, socialized traits. There is no such thing as 'good' femininity unless you think women should be oppressed.

Connection between HAES/Fat Acceptance and supporting men in women's sport? by eddyelric in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're onto something with the youth.

But it would be good if more older fat people also got on board with trying to improve their health despite their weight. Maybe if people stopped stigmatizing the idea so much...

Can muslim women be GC feminist too? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately I think you're right, but I also feel like GC spaces should accommodate some level of "moral impurity" on feminist issues to really reach/help liberate the most women. It takes some women a long time to even start to understand their intrinsic worth as human beings and I don't want to discourage any woman from reading/participating here unless she is being abusive/misogynistic herself in her comments.

Can muslim women be GC feminist too? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think anyone is "allowed" on this forum pretty much, as long as you're not misogynistic/promoting abuse of women etc. But you probably just have to be able to tolerate reading people be rude about your religion. I don't think there's anything wrong with people expressing vitriol against Islam, personally, but I get that it makes religious people uncomfortable to have their beliefs questioned. It's good to learn to live with that discomfort in order to have honest conversations.

If you can't handle hearing insults to your religion because it supersedes your respect for other women and their rights, maybe you don't really care very much about women's rights. Most religions are highly misogynistic and patriarchal, but not every woman is going to have the same negative or positive experiences of any given religion. You may find it difficult, but if you care about having integrity as a human being, it's worth confronting why your religion is so horrible and harmful for so many people, and whether you are complicit in that by practicing and defending it. Do you just excuse parts of your religious text and dogma and practice that denigrate other human beings because you feel they can be ignored, because you feel like it's just an old book, or because you actually think denigrating other human beings is OK? Or have you just had a much different experience of that religion than people in other countries, families or sects?

I can't answer these questions for you but they're worth asking yourself, in my opinion. It's up to you what you do. This shouldn't be a space where women have to shut up about women's issues to prevent offense to others, though - that's why we ended up here after being kicked off reddit.

Men's Health magazine. How to choke a woman. I don't want to live on this planet. by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not a funny joke.

Apparently not stripping in front of TIMs is "transphobic". I never thought that they'd come up with something more rapey than the "cotton ceiling", but here we are. by justradfemthings in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a very good point that doesn't get made often enough and thank you for reminding me of it. I think we often miss this rebuttal because things like this are so creepy and wrong on their face the first reaction is just horror, but there is also a deep hypocrisy happening in TRA movements where women are asked to feel increasing shame around our bodies for the benefit of TIMs while TIMs also expect women to be increasingly comfortable with dicks, talk about dicks, etc. Both, they claim, are for their own validation or acceptance in society, but this only makes sense in a context where males are the only people who matter.

I’m so sick of unequal comparisons between women and men on reddit by Confuzzled in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the key difference is that telling someone to "man up" is telling them to do (male stereotypical thing with positive connotations) thus further associating maleness/manliness with good things. Telling women to get back in the kitchen is the opposite - it is telling them to stop doing positive things with positive associations and know their place.

I don't know why men are so prone to whining that they are inherently associated with good things and told to do those good things or display those good traits. Obviously I don't agree that these stereotypes are good ones, but being on the positive stereotype side is generally positive for the people who are on the right side of it. Men complaining about being told to man up are essentially complaining about being called woman-like, which they interpret as inherently bad. It's still an insult against women (or boys - I think a common interpretation of the phrase 'man up' is similar to 'grow up' where the implication is that someone is acting immature/childlike and should act more adult).

How do you really feel about Joe Biden saying his VP pick will be a black woman? by medium_tomato in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate communism too as I'm from a post-communist country but even my relatives who lived through brutal communist regimes are pretty down with SOME of the social programs implemented during communist rule which have remained, and miss others which have walked back. The society seems to be more communal and cohesive too even if that cohesion is often based on negativity and suspicion toward governments and government diktats, so I find it kind of strange that Americans who didn't even experience the brutal aspects of communism are so allergic to mildly "socialist" programs.

JK Rowling book sales unaffected by transgender views row by RadioSilence in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TBH I'm glad she spoke out but I really don't think she desperately needs more money right now and I don't think the HP books were that good... I feel like there's better ways to contribute to feminist activism than making an almost-billionaire even richer with multiple purchases of the same physical books. She's far less vulnerable than 99.9% of other women who share her views but might need the support more.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From the study you linked:

"It is important to note that in the realistic situation of masks worn on the face without elastomeric gasket fittings (such as the commonly available cloth and surgical masks), the presence of gaps between the mask and the facial contours will result in “leakage” reducing the effectiveness of the masks. "

The study goes on to say that there is a huge drop in efficacy if even 1% of the air leaks - but of course, much more than 1% of air leaks when a real mask is being worn. They also note "Opportunities for future studies include cloth mask design for better “fit” and the role of factors such as humidity (arising from exhalation) and the role of repeated use and washing of cloth masks. "

So essentially, this study is saying exactly what I just said.

CIDRAP, the CDC, the WHO, the Oxford center for Evidence Based Medicine and others have all failed to find any evidence whatsoever that cloth masks and even, most likely, surgical masks would reduce viral transmission during this pandemic, so IDK what you think you know more than all the scientists working at all those agencies but this article ain't it.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think a lot of younger people who are "interested in psychology" grow up loving the DSM because it is like a book about video game character types, like the DnD chaotic evil/lawful neutral types and a lot of confused teens love that sort of cut-and-dry sorting of people/personalities into bins that explain their behaviour. And when so many of the people who are interested in psychology have psychological problems themselves, a lot of the people most interested in the DSM are also those to whom it most applies.

Obviously for the people WRITING the DSM, it is a money-making business, and many of the people on DSM committees even admit that the process is highly flawed and unscientific, but try telling someone who has treated it like a bible since they were 13.

SOURCE WARNING (conservative): Antifa anarchist brags about his "female penis" on Reddit by WrongToy in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wait, Evergreen doesn't have a grading system? Then how could people go on to grad or professional school?

But yeah, I had internet friends back in the day who went to Reed and I think they were all trans and had multiple mental disorders, I think they had dorm assignments based on interests and stuff like that. I think HP fans wanted to go there because they thought it was like Hogwarts.

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hysteric in this context is an adjective, how can it be a slur?

The infuriating rise of anti science behavior in every corner of society. by Bogos in GenderCritical

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aerosols are not and cannot be stopped by masks.

Only droplets (which are not the same thing as aerosols) would be, and only by certain kinds of masks, and only for a short time before the mask has to be thrown out.