Saidit, what if we showed who voted on everything? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How many different people you vote for, divided by total number of votes, compared against the site's average

Similar stuff have been tried, the way to circumvent it is to set an array of "related" subs (or manually select random posts) and have two out of three votes be driveby votes on random posts to fuzzy the "upvote diversity".

Its a tough challenge I still haven't seen a good solution to.

Saidit, what if we showed who voted on everything? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, the block sub feature is one of the Internet filtering system that actually works and I see no ethical concerns with.

Saidit, what if we showed who voted on everything? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's because the proper response is to ignore it.

That's a unfriendly way to look at user feedback. I'm talking about you ignoring my request for a standard on how to treat unwanted material.

Unless you're saying my feedbacks are unwanted material or course.

Why do you care what someone thinks about how you vote with a username that's anonymous?

I found out who an mod on reddit was by following his username. He thought he'd separated his online account and everything but forgot he'd used his username at a forum elsewhere.

From that forum I was able to piece together who his real life friend was, and from his Facebook it wasn't hard to find the name of said mod. Within minutes I knew where he worked, where he lived, what the name of his spouse and kid were and when Facebook started suggesting the kids kindergarten I felt the excersize had run its course.

By showing to everyone who's voting for who you open up the system for profiling and networking connections. There are some benefits to the users, but I argue the risk far outweighs the reward.

I care because I know there are many groups that want to silence or harm me and others because of who we support and our worldview. Or maybe more correct would be that there's always someone who wants to silence anyone...

If they want to skewer you, they'll just go through your comments like they do on reddit.

Yes. That's one way of breaking down a discussing to the bottom level of the debate pyramid. I don't think it's wise with one more.

By removing the ability to see what we support, they have to debate our statements instead of reacting to what topics we want to cheer on by upvoting, and their personal beliefs on why we upvoted.

Having the usernames out lets us easily see networks of usernames who only upvote each other and don't participate in the larger community, aka users that are likely astroturfing

Unless you give us users a way to deal with this, I don't see what good it does. No downvote? We have to compete with uovotes. Not enough post I actually want to upvote but there's actual racist and discriminatory post on the frontpage?

Upvote the most popular ones.

This is a straight lane to a solidified saidit culture based on a common hate for spam rather than a shared love of the posted topic.

"SaidIt.net Discord Chat" by JasonCarswell in SaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Separate the subs and chat channels, problem solved. 😋

"SaidIt.net Discord Chat" by JasonCarswell in SaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As one who dislikes the chat, I don't see the problem. 😂

But on a serious note, I think the chat serves a different function than the forum. We use the comment field to comment posts, what is the sub-specific chat for, discussing the comments?

And I consider it a privacy issue that someone could potentially be hovering in the chat (without logging in no less), register when users log in to a channel, substract the timeout and end up with an accurate list of what sub's the logged in users spend their time on.

Saidit, what if we showed who voted on everything? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Then I'll stop voting unless I 100% endorse everything in the post and possibly comments.

"I see your argument, but you upvoted X two and a half weeks so your opinion is invalid. Also you're a Nazi sine you upvoted the CRISPR post a month ago, WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL BABIES".

Remember when I badgered you admins for a default response to unwanted content and you magnora ignored me and d3rr basically blew off the whole premise? A few weeks later and now the new section is mutating into Voat.

Enforce this public voting and a few weeks saidit will be monkey house shitslinger central.

*Florida Man does something crazy* Minnesota man "Hold my beer" by Entropick in funny

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Taking control by losing control.

"SaidIt.net Discord Chat" by JasonCarswell in SaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Discord sux, Matrix ftw!

Microsoft guy: Mozilla should give up on Firefox and go with Chromium too | ZDNet by useless_aether in technology

[–]OldManCorley 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Microsoft forced a reboot while I was working to install updates I've tried to block. They treat my hardware like it's a part of their spyware OS. I call that anti consumer.

Saying that people should select Microsoft since Google is bad is like saying you want cancer instead of AIDS, especially in the comment section of an article advocating the importance of being able to choose neither.

U.S. Has Slipped out of the Top 20 Countries in a Worldwide Corruption Index by dcjogger in news

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Considering the US still is at one end of the scale, it should be possible to reason your way to an answer.

In your own opinion, would you say the US is close to having very little corruption or close to have a lot? I remind you of one of the hot topics of 2016; "pay to play" and that the US custom of lobbying for special interest groups.

Microsoft guy: Mozilla should give up on Firefox and go with Chromium too | ZDNet by useless_aether in technology

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Microsoft: There can only be one, and it WILL protect you from "fake news".

C'mon now Missysoft, you're usually smoother when it comes to forcing anti consumer stuff on the consumer, who put a fire under your kettle?

A Handy Guide To Facial Expressions by useless_aether in funny

[–]OldManCorley 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The people on the right triggered me.

Che by useless_aether in propaganda

[–]OldManCorley 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Replace blacks and gays with "everyone" and we got ourselves some good times rolling.

Off-the-grid fortress in the middle of the Nevada desert, three hours away from Las Vegas by SundogsPlace in SundogsPlace

[–]OldManCorley 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A 9/10 neato house

https://allthatsinteresting.com/zombie-proof-house

Nothing like that anywhere near me lol

Compared to what I have and what's near me, it's a fantastic house. Compared to my tastes it's too eclectic and without a general design idea as far as I can tell.

I know the truth - it's not what you think! by [deleted] in 911truth

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Ok.

Off-the-grid fortress in the middle of the Nevada desert, three hours away from Las Vegas by SundogsPlace in SundogsPlace

[–]OldManCorley 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seemingly too easy to get in from the ground level, even if one removed the platform and railing.

Neato: 7/10

Safe: 4/10

The future of the working class: China clones monkeys and deliberately edits genes to make them mentally ill by useless_aether in communismwatch

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This, in combination with the collective shaming jumbotrons and government warning when making phonecalls to "bad" humans makes for excellent dystopian insights. And that's only what we're told is going on.

When the techno fascist come over here I can only hope the western world is connected enough to coordinate a mass rebellion or else we're hardly but truly fucked with a spiked bat, the lot of us.

Adam Driver Says That Star Wars: Episode IX Is Their Last Chance To Get It Right by onemananswerfactory in StarWars

[–]OldManCorley 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. We passed that point years ago. 😢

Should the "funny" vote be called the "fun" vote? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If votes are reserved for "above average", we first need a baseline for what's average. And without the ability to discern "good" or suitable posts from "bad" or unsuitable posts that's impossible (no downvote, no insight/funny for average posts).

I'd say votes should be used to discern whether it falls into the different categories for the user, and used generously as it encouragement for posters. The user get more content they like by subscribing to subs that has a culture for posts the user find insightful or funny.

Water it all down and let the users make their own lemonade.

NewPipe is acting up. Does anyone have any recommendation(s) for another decent YouTube downloader(s)? by Tom_Bombadil in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you and I and most people with an ideal environment could learn geometry and trig well enough to teach it at a college or high school or something. A working level math education

In comparison to ground breaking, paradigm shifting high level math, that isn't comparable.

If Einstein is considered extraordinary, could anyone become extraordinary under ideal conditions?

I imagine that the vast majority had lots of factors stacked against them and chaos in their lives rather than they studied adequately and still failed to grasp the material and get in.

If we're looking at causes outside scholarly performance, it's easy to argue that a family might not make as good decisions for their child as a higher intelligence family, resulting in more challenges for their kids.

I guess my argument is that it's not a complex matter.

Sometimes it's just about having the experience and things look complicated from the outside.

In my experience, what someone think is easy, others think it's hard. When you say some things are complex and others aren't, it's that compared to the average Joe or compared to your comprehension skills?

New Jersey cops search man's anus, genitals for weed during traffic stop. See for yourself. by dcjogger in news

[–]OldManCorley 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TIL that Joseph Drew and Andrew Whitmore sticks their fingers up strangers anuses for no obvious legitimate reasons.

NewPipe is acting up. Does anyone have any recommendation(s) for another decent YouTube downloader(s)? by Tom_Bombadil in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then we disagree. I believe that certain types of intellectual challenges aren't solvable without certain intellectual qualities.

And since I don't believe people choose to be a gas station attendee over being a doctor or other higher paid and higher status jobs, I believe it to be their ability to solve the required challenges that's holding them back more than a satisfaction regarding their situation.

Do you understand math at the same level of Einstein? You can't argue that he was unique as several physicists were working on the same principles and the science community are pretty sure that if it weren't Einstein, then someone else would have come up with the theory of relativity, eventually.

If you say yes, then I'd argue you have a better mind for math then I do because I don't. If you say no but you can learn, you have a better mind for math than than me, because I've tried and failed. If you say no, you agree that there's other people with better minds for math than you.

How does that fit in with the idea that having a grasp on complex matters is just a matter of learning a trade craft?

What about the people flunking trade craft educations? And so on.

NewPipe is acting up. Does anyone have any recommendation(s) for another decent YouTube downloader(s)? by Tom_Bombadil in AskSaidIt

[–]OldManCorley 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Tech people aren't smarter

555-come-on-now, are you saying that you and OP's grasp on technical concepts are the same, despite his or hers admittance to the opposite?

That's not a very smart thing to say...