[Discussion] Premarital sex is bad and celibacy should be celebrated by idiot in CriticalThoughts

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Condoms! (And yeah you have Vagina condoms made so you can lick it but not infect/get infected by it.) Also some hand-washing before the rubbing. I mean that's what the whole 'I need to use the bathroom' act of both sexes is about before the whole happening: not to freshen up/change into different underwear, but to make sure it's all hygienic.

But more serious: the 'celebrated' thing is wrong. When you get 'status' of being a celibate it just encourages 'secret hooking up' and because it's 'secret' it would be weird to buy the rubbers, buy the pills, take a spiral etc. It's just as wrong as the opposite: the celebration of sex.

Sex is a tool, not a goal. Anyone can handle a hammer, but you're pretty crafty if you build a nice lake-side logde with it.

Getting an STD/getting pregnant (unwanted) is due to:

  • lack of education in some manner, like a CONDOM! FFS dudes, you still cum, unless you have a serious peepee problem.

  • Abuse, rape, the creeps

  • 'climbing up the ladder for your career' I'm pretty sure this is how most 'straight guys' still get a cock to suck.

When sex is the goal you're drunk or an a-hole (or both). I don't mean you're drunk/ an a-hole when you're horny.

Also, think for yourself and don't do things you think you're supposed to do just because the TV/Internet said so... (unless the lesson is don't diddly-doo the children, that's a good lesson for all, including yourself)

What really is the dumbest way to die? by miclejhon in AskSaidIt

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  • Being born

  • Coming back from dead and dying again (ask my FF-IV characters)

[PSA] Hey (American) Internet... about tomorrow by Mnemonic in Internet

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The regulation is saying the ISPs can't discriminate upon data-type (to do so would mean they would have to look at the data or discriminate upon site/location).

It's like having the government saying that corporations can't bug your house, even though the (USA) government can do it willynilly because of the Patriot act.

The internet is and has been neutral since it's inception

Indeed

net neutrality is trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

There are problems, only now ISPs can do this too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection#United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling#Network_neutrality .

I see Network Neutrality more as the 'Human right act': by itself it doesn't do anything, but it can be appealed to.

[PSA] Hey (American) Internet... about tomorrow by Mnemonic in Internet

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I'm not sure if you know what Network Neutrality means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality .

"The Religious Experience of Philip K. Dick" by R. Crumb by Mnemonic in Comics

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The Black Iron Prison (BIP) is all around you and you can only (hope to) communicate through myths. Our reality is made up of a false/blind/arrogant god creation that is merely mimicrying the 'holy' as a ruse to keep us trapped so our 'holy particles' can be used to recycle through hosts and keep the machine running, and the machine is a part of the baddy.

To be sure this myth is easily read and the pictures make it even more relatable to 'human-lfe' as it are 'pretty pictures'.

...in a Giant Fishtank by XYY in Toiletthoughts

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MAN! Do I have a movie for you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKnpPCQyUec

Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson go camping by [deleted] in funny

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In the middle of the night Sherlock wakes up Watson and ask him to look up: "What can you see Watson?"

Watson, a bit grumpy: "Ehm the moon and it''s full?"

"And what can you conclude from this Watson?" Sherlock asks, a bit agitated

"Another lunar cycle has just began, or it just ended, I don't really know that sort of stuff Sherlock" Watsom answers while yawning.

Sherlock hits Watson over his head "No you twat! Our Tent is stolen!"

What's the Newspeak word for "gimp" or "cripple"? by sawboss in AskSaidIt

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I made the snowflake part up, not commenly used in the Netherlands, but the rest is a saying I've heard a few times thrown at people who were more than pushing the 'friendly' banter meme.

Though the snowflake part seemed right if you took that all personally :p

What's wrong with of CCS of this sub? by Snow in Internet

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I've removed all my daymode code, except the header. For me it now displays correctly again, but it's still too bright for my taste ;) So it will change again someday!

What's the Newspeak word for "gimp" or "cripple"? by sawboss in AskSaidIt

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If you use them when needed. Talking about or to a person you use their name, if there is need to acknowledge their handicap my method is the best because a lot of handicaps (for example Cerebral palsy) have many different severity levels and can cause a lot of different help needs.

If you go around calling random strangers 'Wheels' or 'Sticks' (or the Broken) it's on the same level as calling a dude a lady because of the long hair: it depends on how the person takes it but usually that sort of shit is friend level only. But for communicating the needs (or the lack of need) for help their system works best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kaT5dDiISw https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436613/ My sibling does Wheelchair basketball (almost as brutal) and they talk a lot of trash to each other, like holy f*gging shit, but you also know if I as a walker would say such shit they will not like it. If you think you can talk the same, you need your spine cracked you snowflake.

What's the Newspeak word for "gimp" or "cripple"? by sawboss in AskSaidIt

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I usually call them by their names :p

Serious: It's easier and better understandable (and used by handicapped people, because they all share the same sports and even schools etc.) to classify upon needs/help they receive.

Aka:

  • Wheelchair

  • Walking sticks

  • Slow walker

  • In need of a special lavatory

  • Blind

  • Electrical wheelchair with air-support

etc.

These are rough translations but they paint a picture. Gimp or Cripple doesn't tell anyone what that person might need or can/can't do, same uselessness as the term handicapped.

But this is all not newspeak, it's normal speak, sorry.

Who is the most F*cked-up person on Saidit? by XYY in SaidIt

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There was this one dude who compared me to jimmy savile after I made a joke about his looks... Oh that was you!

I'm sorry man, I didn't know it would leave such a dent.

What's wrong with of CCS of this sub? by Snow in Internet

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Yes, daylight-mode is still in development, because somehow it differs from the night-mode. Yesterday I updated it and those links are called something else apparently! Soontm a patch and maybe even a final version will come.

Post the name of the SAIDIT member you most like. by Snow in SaidIt

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Thank you, but my music listening backlog hates you.

Post the name of the SAIDIT member you most like. by Snow in SaidIt

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The book that purports that Jesus is Caesar.

No not that book, a Caesar as in emperor, how the roman Empire transformed it all into a propaganda cult.

he still preached righteousness, and rightful living above all

Amen

Post the name of the SAIDIT member you most like. by Snow in SaidIt

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Well the devil only poked fun at god (job), jesus pretty much wimped him away (40 days desert). To troll jesus is to call out the Caesar connection and the falseness of the crucifixion story (and the whole act), or just even that his apostles who are mentioned in the bible couldn't get the dates right. If the crucifixion and the following events were correct then jesus even gave mercy to the devil, the ruler of the Sheol, judge of the dead. Though that wouldn't really troll jesus as it just mocks the false image created by the church of the cool sand guru.

Post the name of the SAIDIT member you most like. by Snow in SaidIt

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There are better picks than me, go wild ;)

I mean, it's not a name your best CSS creator thread...

My favorite Opie and Anthony comment: by Tom_Bombadil in whatever

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The irony is transcendent.

Post the name of the SAIDIT member you most like. by Snow in SaidIt

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/u/JasonCarswell He rubs the wrong way but licks it back the good way. The proof that Canadians are just French who gave up on arrogance because they have to share the continent with the USA. (If you can't beat them, why compete them? hon hon hon maple syrup and other stuff)

Expert quotes: antidepressants are placebos with very dangerous side effects. by Anticapitalist in Antipsychiatry

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They are like the morphine you get when you break your leg, it helps smooth things over but to fix your leg (and make it grow in a good way) something else is needed. Now I think of it, just an extreme version of alcohol: Drinking helps to forget your problems, not solve them.

Something Really Massive Punched Through Our Galaxy by Optimus85 in space

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This is SO much better than another generic talkshow dude explaining more basic things in 10 minutes.

Yeah he ain't the best, but he tries and does a good job: Like in this is stuff you can study on instead of some fluf banter! It's like a (real) lecture!

I don't do google, so be free to comment my comment on his video, he's ~okay~ and that's very good for someone in this field. F*gg off Niel and Nyle, this is a normal person who knows shit explaining things like a normal person would!

Though, he did a great job on the grapical part, with 0 budget and makes it more clear than Star Wars Graphics and Cringy acting.

This is what open education looks like and should be!

Motherfucking Website by sawboss in Internet

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Replace 'programmers' with 'web designers' and I feel great about my upvote.

Theory: magnora7 and d3rr are the same person. One claims to be from Texas, the other from California. Superhero? Multiple personality? AnonySiamouse twins? A.I. hive mind bots? Virtual ventriloquist? All of the above? by JasonCarswell in Debunking

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This is some next-level fanfiction shizzle that breaks the setting/story even more than the final season of GoT.

Theory: magnora7 and d3rr are the same person. One claims to be from Texas, the other from California. Superhero? Multiple personality? AnonySiamouse twins? A.I. hive mind bots? Virtual ventriloquist? All of the above? by JasonCarswell in Debunking

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This not only gives 'theory' a bad name but reading the comments also gives Agent Smith a not deserved elevated status above the other agents.

Smith isn't an AI, it's just an algorithm with above superuser clearance, Neo hit his 'delete yourself' function with a sudo and the delete function was faulty and returned another Smith now with su privileges and scriptkiddied itself out of the virtualization confines.

Magnora7 is Niobe, d3rr an operator: just people with a few plugs to get into the webz.

Aleksandr Dugin Reads Aleister Crowley's Book of Thelema Liber DCCCXIII by Jesus in conspiracy

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When Crowely is taken too far, some antidode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PPJ_PZwz4

Though how Crowley was as a person and what he tried to convey is lost on those who recite his 'shit', he documented his own journey and fucked over the Thelemites with it. The liberation comes from within and with the liberation comes wisdom. When you just recite some texts and claim to have liberated yourself: you are a dangerous fool.

Rules for Being Human by magnora7 in whatever

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What the hell is "awaken_goddess_dmt"?

One of the ancient most bad-ass usernames.

The rising era of 無敵の人 (invincible person/people). by Snow in politics

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It seems the Mr. Nobody has caught up to Japan:

The Nobody is the one thing TPTB can't influence.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/peterr/TheNobody.html

[META] Are users able to post on this sub? by PikonParadox in Journalism

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People are able to post here. The topics that could be posted here that are hot in the media right now are Assange things or Freedom of speech repression and all, which all can and are posted in other subs.

Though maybe a bteer picture of what you would want here to be posted is needed; is it about how journalism is conducted, how to earn money as journalist, articles being rejected because of some outside concern?

I can't bear to watch any superhero movies since they are all very retarded by Snow in Movies

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Hellsing Ultimate (be sure of the ultimate, there was another anime but ended/cancelled, the ultimate is a revival and over over the top, in a nice good way and has an ending).

Also for Crazy Vatican shizzle; The Young Pope is a great watch (and hopefully the new https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Pope )

Not my problem by Mnemonic in Comics

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Or this: https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpics.me.me%2Fhow-to-fixaleaky-boat-in-steps-step-1-identifywherethe-wateris-coming-21554431.png&f=1

[sorry for the 9gag link, it's the only one I could find with my search terms]

EDIT: Wait.. you mean 'Drop the means of production'? :p

Spirituality does not come from religion. It comes from our soul. by [deleted] in quotes

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The term soul is a demiurge creation in language to suppress the concept of the whole representing itself in a mimicry way to reflect itself in the material demiurge created black iron prison.

Knowledge comes from within of which spirituality is a branch used to exploit people for sex and all in the 60ies.

I agree with the spirit in which you posted it, but the message is too easily hijacked by (false) prophets.

I can't bear to watch any superhero movies since they are all very retarded by Snow in Movies

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Birdman is a nice watch indeed, also because he was Batman but definitely entertaining!

I think you'ld like Doom Patrol, It bears resembles to Alan Moore's works and it features FLEX MENTALLO (semi-half spoiler, not really, because well... because he's just in it and this doesn't give away the plot or anything, but, if you know FLEX you know how Meta it will get, which is good!) [Also Timothy Dalton, he's the best bond!] Tomorrow is the final IIRC, the whole story (up till now) is gnostic as Fuggg! And great cinematography.

I forgot to mention Legion (Season 2 ended wildly and 3 is coming up! {and that''s the final season so it's closure, a story well told is better than one stretched out}}) It's a X-men spin off but about mental problems and well, even if you don't know english it's a great watch but the story is also nice.)

I can't bear to watch any superhero movies since they are all very retarded by Snow in Movies

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Watchmen is a good superhero movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h24D87SqaLQ (and HBO is making a serie... though I'm not too hyped for that).

Doom Patrol is a Superhero serie which is very nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tTM9nbRk5A

With nice I mean that there is more to the story than just 'goody defeats baddy and get the thingie from the baddy'.

Google suspends some business with Huawei, restricts access to Android updates by Optimus85 in WorldNews

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Still android but no Google-Apps

Google suspends some business with Huawei, restricts access to Android updates by Optimus85 in WorldNews

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This is a big promotion for Huawei: You mean that company manufacturing high-end google-free android smartphones?

Mr. Robot is having a seizure by sawboss in whatever

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It's long been known (at least to me and brought to attention a long time ago) that this is a bot, if there is some 'russia'-shizzle going on it's this bot. Appart from mutiple same-comments, it seems to get triggered on certain words and just spews an unrelated riddle. Over all the comments giving, it's main purpose seems to be to trigger as many people as it can.

A fun exercise: write a reply about [random subject] and see the reply (might take a few days).

EDIT: I can't (anymore) test my 'overall rating' because after i've blocked it, I can't see/visit the userpage anymore, out of sight out of mind.

Saidit is worse than reddit with censorship. by Troll in SaidIt

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The Egyptians and Greeks did it way before the The Bavarian Illuminati was even conceived.

Saidit is worse than reddit with censorship. by Troll in SaidIt

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What does this even mean? Besides that you can't point out where/how you've been wronged.

Saidit is worse than reddit with censorship. by Troll in SaidIt

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https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

Could you at least point out:

  • Of what these subs were accused of?

  • What you think those accusations really were on the pyramid?

The Irony is that Reddit only bans when there is a branding issue and saidit tries to have a normal debate/conversation.

Microsoft warns of major WannaCry-like Windows security exploit, releases XP patches by Mnemonic in TechSec

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Microsoft is still raking in millions from goverments all over the world to keep it patched because 'muh missle systems and stuff' run on it.

Not to mention systems life elevators, security cameras, audiorecording studios and what not that was 'super high-tech' back in the XP days, but way to costly to 'upgrade' with every windows iteration.

Making a Video Game in a Browser's Tab Icon! by Mnemonic in programming

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The video talks about that game extensively (since it's a 5 minute video :p)

‘No future for dissidents’ on social media: Paul Joseph Watson reflects on Facebook ban by fred_red_beans in censorship

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Mastodon and the fediverse is what you are looking for. (But it's free)

Brexit - Behind Closed Doors, Part 1/2 (Storyville - BBC 4) by Mnemonic in Europe

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Nigerian militia frees nearly 900 children used in war on Boko Haram by magnora7 in WorldNews

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Boko Haram? More like Beaucoup Haram.

Penis extensions don't work, study finds by Mnemonic in Health

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Ice works only temporally.

We Need to Save What Made Linux and FOSS Possible by Mnemonic in FLOSS

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The need for security and paranoia (as if you could forget) was in fact brought up by you, when you argued that RMS and his 4 freedoms aren't the only reason to use FOSS. You argued that intelligence agencies use FOSS too!

Exactly, though I don't see how using a modified Ubuntu nor Wireshark helps with privacy nor paranoia. This remark of me was to show that FOSS doesn't suck, not that it's protecting your privacy (Wireshark is used to sniff stuff out), again something you made up.

Here you went from taking an argument which was meant to be a counter to 'it sucks' and turn it into some fantastical thing that I have said FOSS is great for privacy. You could have asked instead of making stuff up about what I meant. But it's common knowledge I presumed you knew. Like I keep asking what FOSS is in your eyes, I presumed you knew and had some criticism, then in my eyes turned out you were bumped about Gimp, Libre Office and Signal.

you're literally citing RMS' 4 freedoms as the only justification for FOSS for the masses

? No I just pointed out what FOSS is at it's core (you, again, make up it's somehow 'my only justification'):

  1. Freedom to run the program as you wish.

  2. Freedom to study the source code of the program and then change it so the program does what you wish.

  3. Freedom to help your neighbour. That’s the freedom to redistribute the exact copies of the software when you wish.

  4. Freedom to contribute to your community. That’s the freedom to distribute copies or modified versions when you wish.

You see how it says 'freedom to'. You don't have to, but you can. Like painting your house, you don't have to, but it's nice to know when you want it to do, you can call a local painter to sort it out. But I guess RMS got you triggered somehow, I appreciate you not bringing up the toe jam though.

right back to the point where I started about why FOSS doesn't appeal to most users.

And I ask now, again, why is that the part that doesn't make it appealing for the public? and with 'the part' I mean FOSS. Like we both agree, normal users don't give/know a damn: Why would something being FOSS be bad in their eyes. You gave 3 examples of a GUI that 'sucked' (and went on to say everything FOSS sucks and it's developers, which I'm countering and then my arguments become oil somehow in your eyes). The label FOSS or even the truth of something being FOSS is not something people turn away from it. (because they don't even know)

that means the programmer didn't do the job properly.

They never do their work properly, I don't assume and I hope you don't think that non-FOSS means 'they did their jobs before shipping it out for cash'. But to be more specific because it's hard to grasp: I buy something and I can't do with it what I want, that's not freedom. It's not about that people 'should' tweak it, but it's optional. Like the Brave Browser, he didn't like Firefox, so he made his own with the things he liked from Firefox. Is this too hard to grasp? Is this the thing we are hung up on?

Instead of having to write and understand and repair and maintain his own program, he wants the exact opposite, which is to let the developer do it for him so he can just use a pretty-looking program to write letters or watch porn. That's it.

You mean like, installing firefox for example? Or installing a web server? setting up LaTeX for university reports? Or any other FOSS application? That's it.

because even if they could hire a programmer they wouldn't want to proofread their work to make sure the programmer didn't put in something awful.

I really don't see how this is FOSS exclusive; at least in FOSS you might have the luck some nerd catches the awful thing instead of letting it slide because the company wants it in and else the programmer gets fired/sued for leaking details about a very vulnerable opening.

playing with definitions, dragging in unrelated software

Sure, me... I still don't believe you know what FOSS means outside your bad experiences with those 3 applications and RMS memes.

(defining web servers as consumer products? Seriously?)

How are they not? You don't have a person website? Portfolio (wanted among artists)? Family history site? That's cool, but if your definition of the web is: corporations only... well LOL how did you get here? (because well FOSS developers suck and all, your words, ehm, why you use saidit? saidit's only proprietary code is Cassandra, something to keep it all in RAM IIRC) Or am I now twisting your words? (How does it feel?)

and now, contradicting and denying your own statements. I'm just not getting any signs of thought from your replies at all.

Could you point them out? Because I only spotted you misinterpreting my words on purpose (because I don't think you're a fool).

A problem, or something else, prevents me from seeing some comments. by Mnemonic in SaidIt

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Ah yes, I see, I blocked dcjogger.. And the whole exchange followed its bot-reply. Thanks!

We Need to Save What Made Linux and FOSS Possible by Mnemonic in FLOSS

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First, it changes the definition of "mainstream" from "being widely used by users" to "being widely used by developers to offer their own end-products";

I'm not doing that, you're doing that in your own envisioning of my words somehow.

I pointed out with the examples I gave of people using FOSS that it did nor does suck (as you claimed). Now, if you would have looked at the list and know what is on there (I even hinted nicely to web-based), you would know that the majority uses FOSS for web servers. (If you don't believe: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/web_server/all) .

The fundamental point I make has always been the same. FOSS will never be adopted by the vast majority of people because the vast majority of people don't give a shit about reading source code. The only reason anyone might have to use FOSS would have nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that it is FOSS, and will only be because the FOSS option happens to be the better product, which is rarely the case.

That last part came later than your first reply and 'and will only be because the FOSS option happens to be the better product' is what I'm trying to show you all the time. (like the web servers ^ )

There is a very common misconception amongst Linux and FOSS fanatics. Once they buy into their ideology enough, they begin to argue that their software is not only morally superior to that of the mainstream systems, but is also technically superior too.

I didn't do that, stating that the Libre office suit is more powerful is based on the same functionality as the Microsoft counterpart BUT Libre office supports more standards. I admitted that GIMP isn't as cool as photoshop.

I even use Steam to get my puzzle games, Dropbox to get people in the UK their weekly dosis of pirate loot and I run the Oracle Java (not the openjdk). [I also have a Ps3 {ABSOLUTELY PROPRIETARY!}]

The whole moral bullshit is something again, you make up.

will clearly never concede that FOSS programmes simply lack the polish to appeal to the vast majority of computer users on the planet until I positively compare every single programme he wants to pull up and debate the pros and cons of each one in comparison to its proprietary counterpart

That's not true, but you may have your delusions. I don't buy your argument that is means all FOSS and gave counter examples of polished and appealing programs.

As long as FOSS remains true to its core ideology of making software freely available (in the liberal sense of the word), a rational member of the public would have no reason to use FOSS over proprietary software.

The whole point of the source being available is that you have the option to change it (or hire some one to do it for you). Like you're free to paint your house and you don't have to pay the original construction company money to only let them do it for excessive amounts off money.

The obsession with linking being able to read the source code and paranoia and somehow privacy is something you, again and again, make up. That is not what it is about and I never brought that up. This is also why I asked you to explain FOSS how you see it, because this makes no sense and seems to be solely based on /v/-memes.

And why are the FOSS 4 freedoms standing in the way for a 'rational member of the public' she/he should be concerned about what program is the best for them. Just because they have the option of checking out the source and tweaking it to their own liking they are going to discard it? Now if they think they have a better option, that would be a rational decision.

as long as the FOSS movement cannot provide a pressing need for normal people to have access to source code

Again, this is not pressing for normal people.

Don't Risk It. Don't Sign It. [holy anti-union propaganda, batman] by Mnemonic in LateStageCapitalism

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I would suggest to post this article as a separate post also. It's too good for just a comment.

Attacks on net neutrality: It starts with free Pokémon Go, it ends with Bolsonaro by roc in Internet

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This happened in The Netherlands a few years ago, a 'zero-rating' for music streaming services, The court ruled it was not in accordance with Net neutrality. https://www.acm.nl/en/publications/t-mobile-can-continue-offer-its-data-free-music-service

Suicide Prevention Groups Demand Ban on Conversion Therapy by Nechama in Psychology

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I thought they went too far because thought the 'conversion' therapy was a funny strawman made up to thake a jab at certain Christians.

That was untill I did some digging, there are some things like that here as well, though more geared towards adults.

We Need to Save What Made Linux and FOSS Possible by Mnemonic in FLOSS

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Great job of deflecting from the main point. You hit the nail on the head when you said "the average Joe [...] calls MacOS the 'fancy windows'," but somehow manage to lose track of your own thoughts not even a sentence later when you talk about how FOSS is everywhere because all systems have some sort of basis in a FOSS program.

I did attack that main-point in the lines above that. I put that last part in there to illustrate that the average Joe uses FOSS but just doesn't know and did not (like you suggested) make a 'choice'. I would have hoped this, along with the nice wiki-list, would help you realize what FOSS is in reality instead of something used only by "for the extremely paranoid or the Stallman clones" (as you put it in the previous post) .

Somehow this all got lost and as I read this response I'm finding out you don't know what FOSS is and why it is what it is.

In the first place, the argument was about whether or not FOSS would ever be mainstream. The contention I'm making is that no, it won't be mainstream because the fundamental ideology of FOSS is just wrong.

But it is already... I pointed that out in the part you didn't quote. I would like to add this comment to it though. Would you then care to explain "because the fundamental ideology of FOSS is just wrong." What this ideology is in your eyes and why is it 'just wrong'?

To answer this claim, you simply argued that FOSS is totally everywhere, because look at intelligence agencies, look at the back-ends of all these proprietary programs, look at all of these people I've chosen to look at who use FOSS!

You argued it 'sucked' out of thin air (3 very subjective examples), I just gave example to counter that claim. (look at these three programs I don't know how to use, it sucks! was your argument... )

But hey, here some more tangible examples:

VLC, Firefox, chromium, Apache, Nginx, and so on... just a quick grab from the list I provided.

Yeah, sure, you've found a few people who use FOSS.

A few?

The man on the street really doesn't give a fuck about reading it, and why should he?

He shouldn't be concerned about reading it if he is not inclined, it's not needed to use it. I don't see the argument here...

As long as FLOSS developers cannot answer this question

Why this question (which I answered above)? First it was because FOSS sucks, but now it's because not everyone likes to read source code?

I don't know if you still think FOSS sucks, including the developers working on it?

I hope I explained well enough that you don't have to read source codes to use FOSS. The man in the street will stare at any developer in mild exasperation when the developer starts talking.

I think this is the crux : Would you care to explain "the fundamental ideology of FOSS is just wrong." What this ideology is in your eyes and why is it 'just wrong'?

We Need to Save What Made Linux and FOSS Possible by Mnemonic in FLOSS

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Libre Office is a worse version of Microsoft Office.

Nope, it's even more powerful.

GIMP is a worse version of Photoshop.

Maybe to a professional, but a normal person doesn't go spend the enormous license fee to use Photoshop.

Signal is a worse version of Whatsapp.

Just wait when it's merged with facebook and instagram

And so on, and so forth.

Yeah these are all so bad, nobody uses these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_packages (Hint: maybe look under web-related and web browsers)

because most members of the public looked at the choices before them

I'm pretty sure that average Joe doesn't even know there are options and calls MacOS the 'fancy windows'.

As long as FOSS programmes continue to suck ass,

Just because you dislike 3 packages, okay.

FOSS will never be more than a fringe movement for the extremely paranoid or the Stallman clones.

Hmm I don't think you know what F(L)OSS entails and who/what is all running it:

Today FLOSS software is everywhere. In some ways the dream of 20 years ago has been realized. FLOSS software is the norm, GitHub is mainstream. The technology that dominates our era — the internet — is firmly based in FLOSS software, open standards, and interoperability. These are victories, and we should celebrate them. FLOSS was radical idea, and we proved its value.

However, Internet life is increasingly run by a handful of organizations. Many of these, like Facebook, google and amazon have FLOSS software at the core of they systems. However, the layers on top are not FLOSS and there is little openness in the systems they create and run. Today a common refrain is “the Internet is broken. What can we do?”

https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/floss_internet_future/

It wasn't me by Mnemonic in SaidIt

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It takes one to accuse one.

How ya doing lonely lurker?