Repost: An unfortunate parallel to the current political drama, and borderline insane claims some famous/influential people have been making intermixed with reasonable election integrity concerns by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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Are you gaslighting us when we know for a fact that the election was rigged against Bernie? Seems like the very thing you’re alleging is being done by you on us. Don’t gaslight people. It’s immoral.

I have no idea where you got the impression that I argued the DNC didn't rig the election against Bernie (in 2016 or 2020), unless you skipped over part of my post. From my perspective it is extremely likely that rigging DID take place, and it's incredibly likely that the 2020 general election was rigged against Trump as well.

My entire point was that people making those claims need to be extra careful while gathering information, because such schemes (election-rigging) are usually accompanied by disinformation to "muddy the waters".

The post here detailed a man who experienced something very real (freaky looking airforce experiments), that the participants did not want him to spread awareness of, so they intentionally pushed him down an insane path so that his observation would be discredited.

Musings: While Trump made a ton of mistakes (both pre and after 2020 election), I've been thinking about his behavior in the context of organized psychological abuse, and in that context he's been remarkably resilient by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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Excellent post, but Trump retreated into his own bubble. He only consumed friendly media, and everything he was presented with was filtered by his staff.

This is one of the upsides to him being forced out (for now)

Ever since 2017 he's had wedges placed between him and a lot of his supporters

There was a huge wedge in 2017 when he struck Syria (though in retrospect he did the bare minimum), and those wedges increased as more and more of his fans were abused, doxxed, silenced and deplatformed, with almost all the apparatus gone

And then the remaining RT's were increasingly insane (astroturfed?) shills some believe were just faking their "Trump support" to promote stupid idiocy

It got so bad that even Alex Jones (of all people) has denounced Qanon as subversive to independent media, and as toxic

Now that he is "back in the trenches" with his fans, he can use business/legal skills to re-engage the assholes fucking up the country, big Tech especially

Many people who were fans of Trump were not fans of his Twitter, both for the excessively offensive/outrageous things on there, but the fact he wasted his time on Twitter rather than support an alternative platform

So him being banned on Twitter probably hurts Twitter more than it hurts him (and his fans) overall

The most important thing about Trump NOT "snapping" (doing something extreme like ordering a drone strike on tech oligarchs) is that, despite current drama, he's still mostly embedded in the GOP apparatus

Repost: An unfortunate parallel to the current political drama, and borderline insane claims some famous/influential people have been making intermixed with reasonable election integrity concerns by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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Case in point to how serious this issue is, I made a post at Tuckercarlson-dot-win only to get (predictably) targeted by the "totally not a psyop shill"

UFOS are the one thing Tucker is right about. There used to be a ufo outside one of the Essene camps in Israel.

If we used the UFO flying technology it'd solve our energy crisis. They use more of a vibrational technology that was present on Atlantis before it sunk. See the newest posts by Allan Cronshaw on facebook discussing it.

TL:DR: If UFO's/Aliens were real and they were actually discovered by parts of the government, and those Aliens wanted to remain hidden, all talk of them would just be deplatformed and silenced quite easily

If the Aliens were too stupid to figure out how to do that (and the government also didn't make efforts to do that), then they'd be too stupid/useless to be a serious threat

Also, "Big foot" and similar trash operates the same way

See (former airforce/intel vet, nevertrumper activist) Denver Riggleman and his "bigfoot studies", while he denounces "false flag conspiracy theories" and what not

They claim he was just "studying fringe groups" like Bigfoot believers, which seems as silly as believing the airforce infowarfare groups were "just studying" UFO groups

What hunting Bigfoot taught a Republican congressman about politics

November 26, 2020 at 5:20 p.m. UTC

AFTON, Va. — There was a time in Denver Riggleman's life when he sat on the banks of a creek that reeked of dead fish and peered through night-vision goggles into the thick of the Olympic National Forest.

He was looking for Bigfoot.

Or at least, others in his group were. Riggleman, a nonbeliever who was then a National Security Agency defense contractor, had come along for the ride, paying thousands in 2004 to indulge a lifelong fascination: Why do people — what kind of people — believe in Bigfoot?

He was likely experimenting to see what kinds of people were vulnerable to believing in forged narratives and wild goose chases, and how to create even more alluring evidence to entrap potential dissident (bored/psychotic) civilians

Now in one of his last acts as a Republican congressman from Virginia, Riggleman is asking the same questions of QAnon supporters and President-elect Joe Biden deniers. Months after his ouster by Rep.-elect Bob Good (R) in a contentious GOP convention, Riggleman has become one of the loudest voices in Congress warning of the infiltration of conspiracy theories into political discourse.

Observations of reddit suppression, etc by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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Update: apologies for the delay

Here are some screencaps of a "shadow-removed" comment I had, one that became quite literally invisible and untrackable, without any mention of the comment being made (even with a "removed before archive" description) reference. I double checked removeddit/reveddit/ceddit to be sure, then archived those services listing the page, because this didn't happen with other contemporary (but also removed) comments:

I'm not sure how many more times this tactic could have been used, but it happened to at least one comment

Here's some comments that were suspiciously auto-mod "removed" despite having no external links (ie markable as spam). Also is a screencap showing that your gilded comments/content dissapear:

BREAKING: Michigan Sheriff: There Were "HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FAKE BALLOTS" Cast In Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer Orchestrated The WHOLE THING, Now SHE'S DELETING THE EVIDENCE by NewsJunkie in news

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yup he got people all mad and they voted against him, not really voting for biden or kamala, just voting against trump.

That's cognitive dissonance, and leaves out people who aren't fans of Trump but think the Dems are absolutely insane/unacceptable

BREAKING: Michigan Sheriff: There Were "HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FAKE BALLOTS" Cast In Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer Orchestrated The WHOLE THING, Now SHE'S DELETING THE EVIDENCE by NewsJunkie in news

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He lost because people have become exhausted from his nonstop shenanigans and god awful ability to govern.

You are omitting the fact that the people exhausted by him weren't an active civilian population, but rather key activists in voting apparatus

The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute for work on gain-of-function bat coronaviruses. Many scientists have criticized gain of function research because it creates a risk of starting a pandemic from accidental release. by Orangutan in WorldNews

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While I'm not convinced that the pandemic originated thanks to an intentional lab release of any sort, so that needs to be remembered as I continue, I find Fauci to be remarkably similar to Dr. Ishii, since Fauci oversaw the transfer of research labs from the US to China

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a member of the coronavirus task force, had previously backed funding for a controversial lab in Wuhan, China, that has been studying the coronavirus in bats, reports said.

Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases had shelled out a total of $7.4 million to the Wuhan Institute of Virology lab — which has become the focus of theories about the origin of COVID-19, according to Newsweek.

The National Institutes of Health, which oversees the NIAID, shut down all funding to the lab last week.

The defenses they had were also retarded

The NIH defended its funding of the lab in a statement to Newsweek.

“Most emerging human viruses come from wildlife, and these represent a significant threat to public health and biosecurity in the US and globally,” the statement read.

Yes, by that logic all of the Soviet bioweapons were also just "from wildlife", since that's where they originated, and those animals were the reservoir for viral experiments. Like the Soviet stockpiles of smallpox, if accidentally released, could have easily been attributed to a zoonotic virus from chickens:

...The first smallpox weapons factory in the Soviet Union was established in 1947 in the city of Zagorsk, close to Moscow.[3] It was produced by injecting small amounts of the virus into chicken eggs. An especially virulent strain (codenamed India-1967 or India-1) was brought from India in 1967 by a special Soviet medical team that was sent to India to help eradicate the virus. The pathogen was manufactured and stockpiled in large quantities throughout the 1970s and 1980s.

The important thing in my mind is that the research journals specifically stated how the virus was poised for human emergence back in 2015/16

SARS-like WIV1-CoV poised for human emergence

PNAS March 15, 2016

Nowhere near enough attention is paid to how the Japanese biowarfare program operated

Ishii wasn't a public military officer, he was a Japanese Surgeon-General with good credentials

And he wasn't leading the "biological warfare station", he was leading the "Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department"

Take a look at the title of that group, that sounds like a positive pro-social group doesn't it?

"Epidemic Prevention". Yet in retrospect we know how the group functioned and what they did.

But post-WW2, our own experimental groups took a different organization structure, adding on many more layers to information-compartmentalization. The MKUltra project for example involved a ton of unwitting researchers who did genuine research into human ailments like headaches, and mental disorders, with 0 awareness they played a role in a larger more malicious program. The politico piece doesn't really detail that part, other than censorship and restriction of information:

Some scientists outside the tight-knit group suspected what was happening. “Do you know what a ‘self-contained, off-the-shelf operation’ means?” one of them asked years later. “The CIA was running one in my lab. They were testing psychochemicals and running experiments in my labs and weren’t telling me.”

The actual organization was a bit more devious, for both the victims and many of the (unknowing) aids of perpetrators

...Despite Allen Ginsberg’s insistence, Kesey did not believe that the project was sponsored by the CIA, and not until decades later did Kesey discover the program’s true intent: “[The testing] wasn’t being done to try to cure insane people, which is what we thought. It was being done to try to make people insane—to weaken people, and to be able to put them under the control of interrogators.”

So by extension as we understand all of these details, we can conclude that a hypothetical "bioweapon" program existing today would function the same

I'm goign to re-emphasize though I've seen 0 indication of covid being some sort of intentionally released malicious experiment, but I gravitate towards suspecting it as the result of an idiotic (and unreported) lab leak

The entire reason those labs were relocated (as directed by Fauci) from the US to China was to get around safety regulations. Despite our own safety regulations, many of our own labs have had near-catastrophic accidents already, and it was precisely these (IMO underwhelming) "restrictions" researchers wanted to avoid by relocating labs to China

CDC shuts down two labs after anthrax scare, other safety concerns

JULY 11, 2014

Research into deadly viruses and biological weapons at US army lab shut down over fears they could escape

Fort Detrick researchers banned from working with anthrax, Ebola and smallpox until procedures improved

Tim Wyatt

Tuesday 06 August 2019

And also, the post is correct. There is literally no incentive to prevent (or even reduce the harm of) future pandemics by these researchers, and the research groups are virtually unaccountable already, with critics being smeared as "conspiracy nuts"

Other much more easily visible biological anomalies from gene-editing programs already get effectively protected by MSM, with critics attacked as "conspiracy nuts", even when they objectively fuck up like this case:

BUGGED OUT Deadly ‘super mosquitoes that are even tougher’ accidentally created by scientists after bungled experiment

Charlotte Edwards, Digital Technology and Science Reporter

17 Sep 2019, 17:49

The research journals that should be holding carelessness accountable instead focus on attacking "conspiracy nuts"

China's New Anti-Foreigner Campaign by [deleted] in politics

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Good for them, hopefully they continue the self-preservation instincts and undo the damage of the cultural revolution, instead of devolving to western decay

The "Hanfu" movement and its reaction comes to mind

A bunch of Chinese can't even celebrate some traditional clothing without oppressive western psychologists trying to paint it as an act of hate against minorities and foreigners

Can someone redpills me on Reddits cofounder Aaron Swartz, and the speculation around his death? by MarquisBoniface in AskSaidIt

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Unfortunately, FBI harassment can cause suicides sometimes by it's own sake, including cases where the Feds are acting as part of a larger corrupt establishment

Bruce Ivins comes to mind, I do not believe he was the primary planned or perpetrator of the Anthrax attacks, and the motive they attributed to him was insane, yet he appears to have actually taken his own life:

...There was some speculation that Ivins had targeted Daschle and Leahy because he saw them as holding up funding that would have helped pay for his research into an anthrax vaccine. Now, officials close to the investigation say another possible motive could have been that Ivins saw the senators as bad Catholics because of their votes in favor of abortion rights.

Anyone familiar with the Anthrax investigation would be aware of how badly Mueller fucked up, and tried to pin the crime on random victims (not too different from Russiagate and random people like Roger Stone)

FBI DIRECTOR Robert Mueller, a Republican who was appointed 10 years ago by President George W. Bush, has been paid a supreme compliment: Bush’s Democratic successor wants to keep him on the job another two years. Before agreeing to extend his term, though, Congress and President Obama should examine Mueller’s role in overseeing one of the most consequential investigations in the annals of federal law enforcement.

My research for “The Mirage Man,’’ a book that explores the anthrax letter attacks of 2001, documents that Mueller exerted far-reaching control over the FBI-led “Amerithrax’’ investigation.

...The Ivins news came close on the heels of a far quieter announcement on June 27 that the FBI’s investigation of the previous top anthrax suspect, Steven Hatfill, also a USAMRIID bioresearcher, ended not with a trial and conviction but with a $5.8 million settlement effectively admitting that the bureau had the wrong guy. Hatfill had been hounded by investigators for three years, his career and reputation ruined.

Ivins was subjected to similar treatment. According to the AP, he complained to friends that agents had “stalked” him and his family. They offered his son $2.5 million and “a sports car of his choice” to rat out his father. They approached his hospitalized daughter to turn evidence on him, plying her at bedside with pictures of the murdered anthrax victims and telling her, “This is what your father did.” W. Russell Byrne, Ivins’s supervisor at USAMRIID, told the AP that Ivins, 62, was emotionally broken by the FBI’s behavior: “One person said he’d sit at his desk and weep.”

“The Feds pursued the same strategy against Ivins as they did against Hatfill—persecute him until he broke, which Ivins did and Hatfill did not. Dead men tell no tales.”

Ivins, says Boyle, just doesn’t fit the bill. “It does not appear that he had the technological sophistication to manufacture this super weapons-grade anthrax, which would have included aerosolization, silicon coating, and an electrostatic charge.” Jeffrey Adamovicz, who directed the bacteriology division at Fort Detrick in 2003 and 2004, told McClatchy that the anthrax mailed to Sen. Tom Daschle was “so concentrated and so consistent and so clean that I would assert that Bruce could not have done that part.”

Among the first suspects to come into the FBI’s sights was an Egyptian-born ex-USAMRIID biologist named Ayaad Assaad. He appeared on the radar because of an anonymous letter sent to the bureau identifying him as part of a terrorist cell possibly linked to the anthrax attacks. Yet, according to the Hartford Courant, the FBI did not attempt to track down the author of the letter, “despite its curious timing, coming a matter of days before the existence of anthrax-laced mail became known.”

So there were two confirmed innocent people whom the crime was falsely pinned on, that is a publicly known fact

Newer Newer NEWER evidence on the Maxwell case by MarquisBoniface in WikiLeaks

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Something I forgot to mention was Hillary Clinton's IT guy, aka u/stonetear

When his account was found the same "wahh muh conspiracy theorist" label was thrown at those speculating

12 White Female Bodies in Garage Freezer Tagged, Black Lives Matter by africant in politics

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Is this real? This doesn't seem real

While we're on the topic, when something obviously fake like this is produced, it's usually done by a partisan leftist-extremist group trying to "debunk" and discredit right wing concerns over MSM blacklisted news

So a CNN type front usually makes shit like this, just like this Washingtonpost interviewee tried to discredit and undermine Trump supporters

What do the Amish lobby, gay wedding vans and the ban of the national anthem have in common? For starters, they’re all make-believe — and invented by the same man.

Paul Horner, the 38-year-old impresario of a Facebook fake-news empire, has made his living off viral news hoaxes for several years. He has twice convinced the Internet that he’s British graffiti artist Banksy; he also published the very viral, very fake news of a Yelp vs. “South Park” lawsuit last year.

Paul Horner probably worked for Washingtonpost, CNN, or one of the other MSM outlets

Before he got suicided that is

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I have a variety of counter-strategies, one of them of course is teaching others how it works in a useful way, merely understanding the basics of what people do and why they do it helps to an astronomical degree so that people no longer feel they are "Crazy" when they get attacked/mocked

Another is what I'd call "lucid induction", a take influenced somewhat by Descartes dream theories in philosophy, combined with some lessons with modern lucid dreaming research, as well as some lessons I've learned myself

...I like to think of "Lucid dreaming" as an analogy to post-Psy-ops thought.

In order to build awareness for lucidity within a dream, people learn how to test their environment for congruence. Disinfo and psyops pushes are like a very poorly designed, un-creative, boring excuse for a "dream". Except this "dream" is designed to indoctrinate people into believing smears on a target.

Understanding how it works is essential to collapsing it.

The information warfare/dreams connection is coincidentally enough also made in the plot of Inception, though I arrived at my own analogy in a divergent manner and noticed this after the fact. But this "dream collapsing" scene is pretty cool.

Another, though this isn't for everyone, is engaging in online fights with some obvious shills and deconstructing their bullshit for lurkers, so lurkers can see how to do it, and undestand how to recognize it

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Inciting divisions requires creating and maintaining a fanatical siege mentality, which then cascades into more and more unproductive conflict

For a group text feel under siege there needs to be a large potential power differential

Let's use minority ethnic groups of Black Americans and Hispanic Americans as an example

Let's assume that within a state, one of them is more under attack (murders, etc) by the other than with Whites

The problem is Whites still have a large percieved power differential based on population size, so that unrest between the two communities can be redirected to some vague general anti White politics cal sentiment

On a different note I'll cite afghanistan, Pashtun/Taliban power, and minorities like Hazara

So the Taliban are actually more anti ISIS than the Afghan coalition government

Yet when ISIS goes into coalition territory and horrifically slaughters a minority group, that sentiment can be redirected against the Taliban

With Kabul wedding attack, Isis aims to erode Taliban supremacy This article is more than 3 months old

As the US and Taliban negotiate peace, Isis sees a chance to sow fresh chaos in Afghanistan

Even by the bloody standards of Afghanistan, it was a brutal attack: a suicide bomber at a wedding celebration, detonating his device as children danced and the happy couple completed their marriage rituals. In an instant more than 60 of the 1,000 guests were dead, hundreds injured.

Few events are so joyous and optimistic as a wedding. So why would a terrorist group – even one as brutal as Islamic State, which has claimed responsibility – want to attack one?

...The victims of Sunday’s attack were from Afghanistan’s marginalised Hazara minority and Shia. The aim was slightly different though. A civil war is already under way, and there is no need to provoke a fresh one. Instead, the attack on the wedding underlined the inability of the Afghan government to protect its own citizens, prompting fear and anger and helping to ensure that any efforts to stabilise the country come to nothing. We can expect more attacks, as savage and shocking, if peace talks advance any further.

That anger redirection is exactly what happened in Afghanistan

A horrific May 12 attack on a maternity ward in a Kabul hospital had exposed a growing disconnect in US-Afghanistan relations.

For Afghans, the attack was the last straw following a surge in militant violence in previous weeks, with much of their anger directed at the Taliban. National Security Adviser Hamdullah Mohib tweeted that if the Taliban "cannot control the violence … there seems little point in continuing to engage Taliban in 'peace talks'." President Ashraf Ghani announced Afghan forces were shifting from a defensive to an offensive position against the Taliban. And Kabul suggested the Taliban was complicit in the attack.

Despite isis seeing the Taliban, rather than coalition government, as their primary obstacle to power in the remote regions

The Taliban reportedly just beat ISIS so badly that more than 200 fighters surrendered to the Afghan government Daniel Brown and Reuters Aug 1, 2018, 11:22 AM

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Interesting. What do you make of them occurring at the same time?

So this is a really long conversation because it goes into both the subject of the historical "flat earth" meme, and modern disinformation nonsense.

An issue is that the "flat earth" meme wasn't real in the first place, it was an insult used during Christian polemics to insult the Catholic church by promoting a strawman attack of the middle-ages beliefs:

Inventing the Flat Earth

Columbus braved superstition and ignorance by sailing across the Atlantic when his contemporaries thought he would fall off the edge. So runs the legend, but Jeffrey Russell reveals here how the Middle Ages were maligned by the creative fiction of subsequent generations.

So I'd say that a small amount of guillable people who believe certain conspiracies get sheep-dogged into taking such things seriously in the same way some people get coaxed into "terrorism" or cults by handlers occuring at the same time as "Woke" trends makes perfect sense. Both are unnatural, inorganic trends pushed by organized groups for their own purposes, yet have similar purposes in inciting intra-society divisions and mistrust in other civilians.

"Woke" nonsense functions as a distraction from anti-government criticism by pushing content that is known to be divisive. Equivalent bullshit is pushed in other states all the time, accusing a majority group of oppressing a minority and inciting the minority to become radicalized in percieved self defense (Uyghurs in China, Hazara in Afghanistan, Hmong in Vietnam). "Woke" 2 decades ago used to mean someone who was a conspiracy theorist, with being "awake" meaning "redpilled" or similar terms, it only became a "muh social justice" thing within the past few years. So the "Woke" trend gets appropriated/comandeered at the same time that the remnants of anti-establishment critiques get targeted with retarded shills pushing flat Earth nonsense.

Like Cass Sunstein would want such groups to be associated with "9/11 truthers":

Cass Sunstein has long been one of Barack Obama's closest confidants. Often mentioned as a likely Obama nominee to the Supreme Court, Sunstein is currently Obama's head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs where, among other things, he is responsible for "overseeing policies relating to privacy, information quality, and statistical programs." In 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-"independent" advocates to "cognitively infiltrate" online groups and websites -- as well as other activist groups -- which advocate views that Sunstein deems "false conspiracy theories" about the Government. This would be designed to increase citizens' faith in government officials and undermine the credibility of conspiracists. The paper's abstract can be read, and the full paper downloaded, here.

Outside of discrediting a target via subversion (cointerintel) and influencing the public opinion that way (see older Wikipedia pages on public opinion influence and the CIA), such astroturfed stunts seem to be commonly used today for galvanizing a response like a tech crackdown, or a rapid public opinion shift, based on the pretext of "your fellow citizens are so dumb they are being brainwashed/manipulated by __, and actually believe __"

Think of how the public opinion would have shifted if the CIA executed it's false flag with those Cuban migrants and blamed it on Castro.

That's what groups like the Daily Beast do with these fake Antivax ads, the intent is to galvanize support for censorship crackdowns:

Google and Twitter Approved Our BS Anti-Vaxx Ads

Google and Twitter allowed ads saying “Don’t get vaccinated” and “Vaccines aren’t safe.”

Blake Montgomery

Updated 11.08.19

That's essentially what is done with "Russian bots" and voters, to freak them out and manipulate them into hysteria:

How New York Times’ Scott Shane covered for architects of a shocking “false flag” election campaign in Alabama

The NY Times national security reporter held news of a massive voter manipulation campaign while pumping up the political operatives behind it as ace Russian disinformation detectives. By Dan Cohen

Once you understand the patterns, you'll see why these "Chinese bots" are likely astroturfed/fake (ie not paid by the CCP in China, but rather paid by our own intelligence agencies)

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Checkout "flat earth" trends, which line right up with the beginning of "wokeness"

I personally believe that "flat earthers" are an astroturfed psyop the same way that UFO narratives, "Elvis isn't actually dead", and moon landing denier groups are

Mirage Men: UFO researcher Mark Pilkington on deception and psychological warfare

Wanna help this site? Stop focusing on Reddit and start focusing on posting some truth. by mongre in SaidIt

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Reddit still functions as a major platform/influencer right now, so their behavior is noteworthy in the same way CNN editing/modifying footage would be

French 'paedophile' faces death by firing squad in Indonesia 'for molesting 300 children' | Daily Mail Online by Sw0rdofDam0cles in WorldNews

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Deep state extremists btfo

Not gonna lie, I really admire these asian governments for taking a stand on the issue even if their governments suck in other places

Even China puts them in their place

West Virginia mail carrier guilty of election fraud after altering ballot requests to Republican by Evilphd666 in WayOfTheBern

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That's really bizarre, did he change any actual votes or was this just about party registration?

Conspiracy FACT: Soros-funded prosecutors let rioters go but declare not agreeing with Black Lives Matter to be a ‘hate crime’ by Optimus85 in conspiracy

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Yea the prosecutor who tried to let jussie smolett get off was also a recipient of $100,000 via soros

More foreign policy musings: my review of "13 Hours" by Michael Bay by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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While I doubt this would happen, I would love to see Michael Bay take on the narratives of people involved with other CIA projects like MKUltra. Many of the researchers and workers involved had no idea what their work was being used for (many were researching cures for things like headaches), or what was being done to them.

This oppressive, compartmentalized sort of info-suppression microcosm portrayed in 13-hours is exactly what people on the outskirt of other CIA projects experienced historically:

...Taking advantage of this arrangement, Gottlieb created a hidden CIA enclave inside Camp Detrick. His handful of CIA chemists worked so closely with their comrades in the Special Operations Division that they became a single unit.

Some scientists outside the tight-knit group suspected what was happening. “Do you know what a ‘self-contained, off-the-shelf operation’ means?” one of them asked years later. “The CIA was running one in my lab. They were testing psychochemicals and running experiments in my labs and weren’t telling me.”

TIL that all Native American dog breeds were wiped out by Eurasian dogs after the arrival of European settlers. Despite thriving on the continent for thousands of years, no pre-contact breeds survive today. by aThievingStableboy in TIL

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I find that suspect

NA's usually didn't use dogs to the extent westerners/northerners did (hunting aids, companions) so there's be less incentive to breed them, and many of the central american states only used them as food sources

It's true the EARLY NA's shared a Siberian culture of dog companions, but I see no evidence there were large numbers of dogs later on

They didn't even use horses before euro settlers brought them

Furthermore a ton of species went extinct during the initial (NA) population of the Americas

Can reddit sue saidit for using the same design? by PencilPusher55 in AskSaidIt

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Can you add a sort of cross posting ability? One of the few things I miss from reddit

Let's gather information on bad shit AHS has done, and links they have with real world NGO's (like the SPLC) by MarquisBoniface in AgainstHateSubreddits

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It's not limited to just reddit though

The splc has connections to various other groups with influence over tech

And AHS gets referenced as an authority on "hate" by msm quite a bit, including washingtonpost

Anyways I see value in organizing high quality info on them

Tips to grow and sustain this sub by MarquisBoniface in Gender_Critical

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They are apparently really aggressive with censoring and banning

BREAKING: Biden has revealed his running mate by GreenNewDealorNoDeal in WayOfTheBern

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Funny, reminds me of something I ran into

Has anyone made a saidit for Aryans and NatSoc? by Nordic in SaidIt

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I am the mod of s/Buddhism, so if you mean "Aryans" as in the Indo-Aryans then yea

With respect to the Natsoc part, to the best of my knowledge nobody has created an "FBI" sub here yet

I believe the fedposters have generally clustered up in 4chan's Natsoc spinoff

Black Lives Matter Aims to 'Disrupt' Family Structure, Excludes Fathers by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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Gonna have to agree to disagree

If we focus purely on CIA linked activities, a few come to mind

The research studies on "Urban gangs", and CIA promoted drug trafficking

Then the CIA culture war assets like Gloria Steinem pushing propaganda inside Black communities to incite a male/female divide

The social damage from those activities far outweighs the impact of relatively high numbers of deaths (either from police, or even homicide)

Post-WW2 Russia had a massive percent of it's male population exterminated, they still managed to recover without a destroyed family structure because the Soviet government at least encouraged people to do so

Black Lives Matter Aims to 'Disrupt' Family Structure, Excludes Fathers by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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I normally wouldn't spam breitbart links in a lefty sub, but I think this is an important issue to discuss

Inter-generational poverty is a uniquely black issue, due to the disrupted family structures in impoverished cities

Family structure (moreso than "legacy of slavery") is the single biggest correlate with inter-generational extreme poverty

I am a right-wing feminist, so reddit has banned me on a number of fronts. by ech in Introductions

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Both of you should visit s/Gender_critical, run by an anti-censorship feminist

There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed. by [deleted] in SaidIt

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I stepped down, you're now the head mod

Sagar and Ryan Grimm: Reddit's outrageous ban on pro trump, chapotraphouse subredd8 by Evilphd666 in WayOfTheBern

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I have such mixed feelings about Chapos ban

On the one hand I find it somewhat funny and "poetic justice" because they actively campaigned for reddit to ban other subs

Yet I also am critical because the ban wasn't for anything violence-inciting/defending or doxing, but to suppress anti Biden content and anything with Tara Reade, so I can't feel like it's "justice served" because it's not

This Russia-Afghanistan Story is Western Disinformation by Evilphd666 in WayOfTheBern

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Indeed, that's why the NSA denounced it

Let's remember the NSA also denounced the Seth Rich bullshit

There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed. by [deleted] in SaidIt

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Just sent it

There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed. by [deleted] in SaidIt

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Feel free to use s/Gender_critical for whatever

I'm a man and have little interest in intervening at all, but I see the accusation of "crypto-men" to be dangerous in providing a pretext for censoring other opinions

I'll step down and leave my mod position if you want to mod it

RELEASE: #BlueLeaks (269 GB) - Ten years of data from over 200 police departments, fusion centers and other law enforcement training and support resources. by Drewski in WikiLeaks

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One interesting thing to consider: Why don't we ever see any ground shaking Wikileaks-esque material coming from Israel....

Does anyone believe the US State dept doesn't have a sensitive relationship with Israel? They are curiously absent.

Because Israeli intel is extremely compartmentalized (with a very small number of inside sources to leak) and is able to effectively quell almost all of it's whistleblowers and leakers, and the determined leakers will usually find their own channels to go forward any way

That said, most of the information pertaining to Israel can be obtained by proxies or NGO's leaking anyway

Back to the former, take a look at the guy who wrote "by way of deception" Viktor Ostrovsky

I believe some comments on Reddit WOTB are being shadow censored. by Evilphd666 in WayOfTheBern

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Seems like the user deleted their comments extremely quickly, did you get notifications?

Tavistock Institute - Wikipedia - The Tavistock Institute generates a large portion of the repeated disinformation on the internet by magnora7 in whatever

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I've watched this sort of thing a while out of my own curiosity, and I try to compile it and track it to better counter over at and


"Space Lasers" in California, a Disinfo Tactic used in Late 2018 and Spammed in Right-wing Forums by Shills (self.Disinfo_Watch)

submitted 7 months

...They can't manipulate dissidents directly so instead they manipulate view counts and attack the Pr image of "anonymous right wing conspiracy theorists who distrust the government".

It's the playbook used here

Daily Beast Professional Disinformation Artists Create Fake Anti-vaxx ads as Pretext to Demand More Censorship (

Likely Disinfo Pushed About 5g onto Indy Media Groups, then Blamed on Russia as Dailybeast whines about it (

submitted 6 months ago

Flat Earth Trends Fit Right in With Woke Media Propaganda Timing. Interesting, No?

Submitted 6 months

Tavistock Institute - Wikipedia - The Tavistock Institute generates a large portion of the repeated disinformation on the internet by magnora7 in whatever

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Like flat earth is one of them, the reason everyone heard so much about that stupid concept is because tavistock was pushing it as a disinformation narrative to confuse and upset people over nonsense, so they don't focus on real things.

Idk if it came from Tavistock, but it's certainly astroturfed

I have some graphs on the trends

"5G is vaccine-based mind control" and "Directed Energy Weapons from satellites caused the fires in california"

Again I have no idea who created them, but I carefully watched these two as well

It's time for some inertia to build and hit critical mass by MarquisBoniface in WayOfTheBern

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I'd say "inertia" because inertia is able to resist outside pressure/force, whereas momentum is more of a temporary thing for a specific element

You're right the sub has tons of subscribers which is impressive, but without any activity it's as good as dead (and has no inertia)

Therefore, we need some mad scientists to bring it to life!

The hole is getting deeper and deeper Looks like a Deep State Mossad plant in StPaul Police George Soros play? #JacobPederson - the man who started arson and fires is a cop in St Paul with EXTRA salary by iraelmossadreddit in conspiracy

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It was an Antifa, he's on other bids friendly with pink shirt and talking "how to look like a cop"

/r/conspiracy mods are banning people for uncovering a pedo ring by iraelmossadreddit in conspiracy

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Ok fed, hopefully genuine people continue to call you out

/r/conspiracy mods are banning people for uncovering a pedo ring by iraelmossadreddit in conspiracy

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"We can only stop the (threat) if we do (rule_violating_thing)"

The best thing to do, if you actually want to do something about it, is raise public awareness and build pressure for scrutiny.

Btw, I say this as the person who made sure that Buzzfeed Ryan Broderick had his tweets archived, I intentionally left a "signature" style (archived it twice within a 20 minute interval, unnecessary) so I could reference it later:

I later went on a rant about how I was shocked no one archived it before me, then detailed how archive services get throttled by pro-establishment shills. I followed up that anti-establishment critics need to overcome all boundaries and find a way to get results.

Results meaning evidence and actually convincing arguments for explaining these issues to others in society at large.

Dumb fucks like you and this other retard quite literally galvanize a DEFENSE of Pedos, by insisting on providing them with a defense, that lunatics are out on a literal witch hunt

Creeps like Alefantis are like parasites who feed off of the galvanized defense idiots (and/or subversive shills) like you provide, so they can rally up their establishment defense.

Notice Alefantis and co got portrayed as victims after that idiot (and possible shill) went to the restaurant with a gun, which resulted in shutting down conversations of pizzagate:

What happened when ‘Pizzagate’ came to my restaurant

By James Alefantis

April 20, 2017

TL:DR: You and the other dumbfuck are (knowingly or unknowingly) providing fuel for the fire pedophiles use to defend themselves from legitimate critiques, while adding nothing of value to the critiques. I, unlike you, want results, therefore I disavow you subversive retards and encourage other anti-pedophile people to do the same.

/r/conspiracy mods are banning people for uncovering a pedo ring by iraelmossadreddit in conspiracy

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there is nothing wrong with posting an address. the rules say don't post personal information. posting an address to a pizza delivery place is fine. no one was even linking a name to it.

I'm getting a headache just reading this shit.

WHY THE FUCK do you insist on posting the address?

That is the one fucking rule, the single fucking rule, don't post addresses and shit like that. Yes it's a stupid rule, but shills look for pretexts to get subs shut down enough as it is.

WHAT POSSIBLE GOAL does that achieve? It certainly doesn't work making the point more effectively.

What's Okay To Censor? by CompleteDoubterII in memes

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Information with an expression of some sort =/= expression of ideas

There are clear understandable parameters for expressing ideas that don't involve nudity and such

In this case as an example, a cartoon involving the Islamic prophet having graphic sex would still be "censored" by the original guy, not because it's offensive for it's message but because it's violating basic rules for presentation

When Bernie's Staff Forced Him To Reject Billionaire Money (9:52) ~ The Jimmy Dore Show by JasonCarswell in WayOfTheBern

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I watched the video but missed the specific details of billionaire money, conditions, etc

Did anyone catch it?

How Bernie & Squad Actually Support Corporate State. w/Chris Hedges (1:35:20) ~ The Jimmy Dore Show by JasonCarswell in WayOfTheBern

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Good stuff!

Thanks for making this Buddhism sub! by JasonCarswell in Buddhism

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Very cool, I dig it!