The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TBH I talk about jews because they're the most pathetic, miserable, bitter turds on Earth, and I pity them.

Also because they're evil, and it's right to oppose evil.

Lots of people use "productive conversation" as a euphemism for "everyone ends up agreeing with everything else" which is a weird worldview to me as someone who seeks truth by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You said "of consequence" because you're going to play dickheaded word games no matter what I say to deny the truth.

There you go, that's the true statement you wanted.

Lots of people use "productive conversation" as a euphemism for "everyone ends up agreeing with everything else" which is a weird worldview to me as someone who seeks truth by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No lol, consensus isn't truth.

Truth is truth.

If you grab the compass needle and turn it around with your hand the earth doesn't flip on its axis.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why would I bother investing time in a debate with a guy who deliberately makes bad arguments?

I am not a Christian, nor an Atheist, nor a Wokist. I am a Truthist. by Klenvastergan in Introductions

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone I've ever heard call something a "circle jerk" since I first posted on reddit like eight years ago has been a total fucking shit head, you included.

There's some truth for you.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Someone who uses freedom to be stupid is still stupid.

Lots of people use "productive conversation" as a euphemism for "everyone ends up agreeing with everything else" which is a weird worldview to me as someone who seeks truth by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope, Truth exists, sorry.

Consensus isn't truth, it's just consensus, which is quite boring, and often just based on lies.

Imagine coming to a website on the internet to fight against Truth and for lies. How sad.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It costs less to put murderers in jail because that will lead to less murder.

Also, murder is wrong.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They conquered you so completely that you're on the internet simping for them, so there's that.

Aside from that they're really quite pathetic.

I wish more shit on the internet were written down instead of goddamn videos by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

HOLLA 🤣👍🏻

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry you did too much meth to follow my argument.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, you don't have to steal from other people to give women free money, you can just make murder illegal.

Rich women should also be punished for murder, yes.

EDIT:

Would it be better if each of the 22,000 children who died of poverty were, instead, murdered one day before that by bashing their brains in?

B/c that's literally what you're arguing for, except taking away even more days of their lives.

Good Cop Indicted for Leaking Video of Cops Shoving Baton in Man's Mouth Until He Died by Drewski in PoliceMisconduct

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao, literally my first thought seeing the headline:

"This is another George Floyd who ate his own fentanyl to try and escape his rightfully deserved jail sentence, police were probably trying to keep him from suffocating or some shit and not just casually murdering some dude on camera."

But whatever, I forgot that police officers carry the Death Curse and can kill a man by opening his obstructed airway, or cause suffocation by applying pressure to a man's spine.

Good Cop Indicted for Leaking Video of Cops Shoving Baton in Man's Mouth Until He Died by Drewski in PoliceMisconduct

[–]Klenvastergan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is this another George Floyd where the guy who died is a criminal idiot who chugged a pound of fent and killed himself while in police custody?

“I am anticipating winning and I am anticipating this case ends with a big fat federal judgment against the city of Joliet and every officer involved in these charges,” Tomczak assured Patch.

Wow, what a good person lol. Absolute humanitarian XD b

I am not a Christian, nor an Atheist, nor a Wokist. I am a Truthist. by Klenvastergan in Introductions

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

all humans - myself of course included, as are you - by definition have limited perspectives, we actually have next to zero idea what truth actually is.

If you really believed this, you wouldn't have bothered to say this, or anything, ever.

Truth seeking is the collective destiny of all of humanity, not some retarded shit about individual enlightenment.

Everyone's little slice of experience contributes to the greater whole.

Lots of people use "productive conversation" as a euphemism for "everyone ends up agreeing with everything else" which is a weird worldview to me as someone who seeks truth by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Someone like you will get really mad at me for saying it.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ruqqus is heavily censored too, sorry bruh.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, on reddit one side gets to call the other stupid, and the other gets banned for saying anything back.

That's retarded and shows a poor grasp of logic.

In my way, both sides get to call each other retarded and lacking in logic, and other people get to make up their minds who's telling the truth.

Pretty simple stuff really.

Adult conversations involve people with the courage to face mean words, not people who hide from mean words out of weakness and fear.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it is.

The problem with "trolling" is that the word nominally means "person expressing insincere views to upset people" but in practice overwhelmingly means "person expressing sincere views which upset me" by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, that's definitely another thing you made up as an excuse to get mad.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not gonna listen to your opinion on what is and isn't a terrible argument when you admit to using arguments you believe are terrible.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Civility is just affirmative action for bad ideas.

The problem with "trolling" is that the word nominally means "person expressing insincere views to upset people" but in practice overwhelmingly means "person expressing sincere views which upset me" by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well for that to be true you would have to have read and analyzed most of my posts, in the company of professional psychologists, and those of people I thought were idiots, and hence came to a scientifically based conclusion.

You're not as much of a unique snowflake as you want to believe you are.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's a shame.

Murder is still wrong, bruh.

I am not a Christian, nor an Atheist, nor a Wokist. I am a Truthist. by Klenvastergan in Introductions

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry, I am.

Stay mad.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

When you have billions of dollars you still die.

Everyone dies.

Murder is still wrong, bruh.

The problem with "trolling" is that the word nominally means "person expressing insincere views to upset people" but in practice overwhelmingly means "person expressing sincere views which upset me" by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, most "trolling" is people with perfectly good reasons for believing what they believe.

But their beliefs upset you, so you tell yourself little stories about why they believe what they believe, because that's easier than grappling with the content of their belief.

You respond with the block button because you choose to be ill-informed.

I am not a Christian, nor an Atheist, nor a Wokist. I am a Truthist. by Klenvastergan in Introductions

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing you just said is true.

If it were, you wouldn't have bothered to say any of it, because none of it could possibly be true.

Sorry bruh. Truth is God.

Got banned for allegedly violating hate speech rules on reddit by Kallmeish in Introductions

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

IQ has been debunked.

Which is to say, many leftists have repeatedly recited the words "IQ has been debunked", without ever debunking IQ.

Arbitrariness and censorship are back in the West. It took four centuries of struggle for the West to finally guarantee freedom of expression. However, with the invention of the Internet, authorship was democratized and freedom of expression was immediately challenged. Censorship is back. by Chipit in censorship

[–]Klenvastergan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not a very impressive article since they just defend pornography, which is broadly popular, rather than saying or defending anything really controversial, like racism.

Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco Home Vandalized With Graffiti And A Pig's Head Over Stimulus by Nemacolin in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have painted things in my life, but the observation isn't original to me, there was a 4chan thread about it.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently in the US, it's abortion - https://time.com/4144897/birth-rate-abortion-miscarriage/

I couldn't find globally though.

Ruqqus user tries to shit on SaidIt by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, because you're retarded.

Specifically you have a brain disease where you think being a boring ideology cop who fights against true ideas by implicit assertions of status on the internet is a valuable way to spend your life.

It's very sad.

Ruqqus user tries to shit on SaidIt by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, you are.

Trump’s legacy: $8 trillion-plus in added debt in one term by tractor2 in news

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trump, who created the coronavirus in china,

Lots of people use "productive conversation" as a euphemism for "everyone ends up agreeing with everything else" which is a weird worldview to me as someone who seeks truth by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reality is that which is true.

Truth is that which is.

Lots of people use "productive conversation" as a euphemism for "everyone ends up agreeing with everything else" which is a weird worldview to me as someone who seeks truth by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody creates truth.

Truth is that which is true, not what you believe is true.

On Ruqqus users have the option to "siege a guild" if the moderators are inactive. Can a similar option be implemented on Saidit? by [deleted] in SaidIt

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't have to be handled that carefully really, it just has to be done by site owners who aren't actively malicious.

The RCP doesn't get guilds by taking them from inactive users, the RCP gets guilds by getting the site owners to ban people they don't like, and then the site owners tell the RCP kiddies "Hey guys we banned X and his guilds are open, go siege them."

Woke=Nazi confirmed by jet199 in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder what privilege this kid is supposed to have that weighs out bigger than growing up with a mother who hates him and wants him to suffer.

Woke=Nazi confirmed by jet199 in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This except literally and it already happened.

Lots of people use "productive conversation" as a euphemism for "everyone ends up agreeing with everything else" which is a weird worldview to me as someone who seeks truth by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems like the end point of that view would be never caring about anything or doing anything, and thus never producing anything.

That's a weird way to define "productive."

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, you are pretty obviously terrified of jews.

It's sad, and I feel bad for you.

I wish more shit on the internet were written down instead of goddamn videos by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's not a choice when the information you want is accessible by video and not by text.

Then it's a non-choice that you're defending because the non-choice aligns with your preference.

I want to pay full attention to things; paying full attention to things is good. When I'm absorbing new ideas and factual claims, I want to pay full attention to them. When I'm doing construction, I want to pay full attention to that, and not partial attention to novel ideas and factual claims.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry they did this to you.

I wish more shit on the internet were written down instead of goddamn videos by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The shame is that without youtube advert enforced bloat, how to videos are actually one of the best uses for video on the internet because, for example with your windows 10 example, I can see exactly where how-to dude is dragging his mouse and clicking and exactly what he's typing so there's no ambiguity about exactly what I need to do.

I wish more shit on the internet were written down instead of goddamn videos by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The difference with text is that all the meaningless personal blather is completely optional because you can ctrl+f "tablespoons" to get right to where the recipe is.

A video where the useful part is buried in over ten minutes of blather means either doing a lot of tedious jumping around hoping you land on the right spot, or just listening to the blather.

I wish more shit on the internet were written down instead of goddamn videos by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The difference is that I can skim-read a bloated article to get to the useful text much more quickly than I can skim-watch a video to get to the useful statements.

Especially if there are obvious key words I'm looking for, then I can just ctrl+f.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course not.

I do sometimes get angry when innocent White children are murdered by blacks, or when blacks sucker-punch innocent elderly White people in the back of the head, or any of the other incredibly common forms of horrifying black behavior.

It's kind of gross that you don't.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, fighting for the truth is good, and opposing those who fight for the truth is gross and creepy.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe, maybe not.

It will still be true.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I mean true. Because racism is true.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If someone poisons another person and the second person dies, normal people blame the poisoner and the poison, not the poisoned person.

Jews don't run civilization, they're just one of the things killing it.

Civilization had antibodies against them for thousands of years that got overwhelmed when the jews got their hands on mass media. It's not hard to understand or anything. Civilization will even work out new antibodies if the jews don't kill it first.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Normal people care more about murders than deaths from natural causes, because murder is wrong.

Woman to take command of U.S. aircraft carrier for first time by Nemacolin in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry that saying correct things about feminist drivel sends you into weird conniptions.

I suggest seeing a doctor; perhaps you have a mood disorder.

Reddit add? THE CHILD? by [deleted] in AskSaidIt

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, well that's kinda weird.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Blacks are not oppressed lmao.

Abortion leads 2020 cause of death with 42.7 million killed by christnmusicreleases in news

[–]Klenvastergan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The economic advantages of murder are not an excuse for murder.

Explosive Testimony Exposes MORE Evidence of Election Fraud! by sproketboy in politics

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't matter how much fraud there was because Trump already got BTFOd in the Supreme Court by justices he himself appointed.

If your own people who you appointed shit all over you then it doesn't matter if you're right or not, what matters is that you don't know how to appoint people who won't turn around and shit on you.

If Google can't be trusted, what information source can I trust? by JasonCarswell in AskSaidIt

[–]Klenvastergan 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Corporatocracy serves the theocracy.

Woman to take command of U.S. aircraft carrier for first time by Nemacolin in news

[–]Klenvastergan 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Then how do I know that you're a miserable person who lashes out with naked hostility when empty sarcasm fails?

Reddit add? THE CHILD? by [deleted] in AskSaidIt

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not really sexualized.

The man and woman are neither shockingly attractive nor behaving sexually, they're just standing there in underwear that is about as non-sexual as modern underwear gets.

Boxer shorts for grown men with stupid shit on them have a rich and proud tradition.

Woman to take command of U.S. aircraft carrier for first time by Nemacolin in news

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it is.

In Capitalist America We Have Freedom by EndlessSunflowers in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does this guy not live in America?

If he does, is he homeless?

Woman to take command of U.S. aircraft carrier for first time by Nemacolin in news

[–]Klenvastergan 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Congratulations to her on the meaningless achievement of getting promoted to a job many men have capably done before her without fanfare. I'm sure she'll do almost as good of a job as the many capable men passed over so that she could have this job before she dies childless.

Ruqqus implodes due to Voat's exodus? by [deleted] in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Are you using "trolls" to mean "people with sincere opinions I don't like"?

If so, yes, the ruqqus admins had lots of trolls to deal with.

If you mean people who act like assholes for no other reason to upset people, the ruqqus admins completely support those.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No.

Truth is God.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Animosity is often a result of productive conversations, because making people confront truths they don't want to confront makes people mad.

Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco Home Vandalized With Graffiti And A Pig's Head Over Stimulus by Nemacolin in news

[–]Klenvastergan 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You can see where the anarchy circles cut off on a sharp line right where the brickwork starts, which shows that the anarchists used painter's tape.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're worried about people saying the wrong kind of speech, then you're not a free speech site.

It doesn't matter what word you use for badspeech, it can be whatever label you want to slap on it. As long as you're banning badspeech you're banning badspeech.

The correct way to have a free speech site is to allow the badspeech.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do you have any specific examples of someone being censured or censored for not following the pyramid of debate when they were arguing in good faith?

What does this have to do with anything that I argued anywhere in my post?

I'm not saying the pyramid of debate isn't being followed, I'm saying it shouldn't be followed.

If people aren't being censored for not following the pyramid of debate, then it's abominably stupid for this site to say right at the top of its rules "Hey on Saidit you have to follow the pyramid of debate".

Also in general "good faith" and "bad faith" are the sort of empty phrases that usually just mean "agrees with the person determining good faith / disagrees with that person" so they're impossible to prove.

The existence of the word "racism" itself proves that racism is true, because if it weren't, it would just be called lying by Klenvastergan in whatever

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Actually it's a great argument, sorry.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

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Thank you! Yes that was me.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Which reveals many interesting truths!

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." Mark Twain by muellermeierschulz in quotes

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He got fooled.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

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Never ignore anything.

Truth is God.

The Waco siege was a 51-day standoff between the US government and the Branch Davidians (a religious sect led by David Koresh), near Waco, Texas in 1993. The incident resulted in the deaths of many citizens including pregnant women and children. What say you? by [deleted] in whatever

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Lousy feds murdering the children.

Hmmm, when you mention that part it sounds pretty bad huh.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

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****** is an especially valuable word, which I'm not going to say on this site because as a racist who means it and is absolutely not just "saying slurs to be edgy", I will absolutely get tagged as a "troll" for using it, even when there's obvious purpose and meaning to my use of it.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Every person who says things you don't like sounds like some other person you don't like because things you don't like remind you of other things you don't like, and because lots of people sound like lots of people.

Accusing new people on web sites who say controversial things of being some previous banned person is usually a good sign that you yourself are way too involved in web sites. It also indicates you are generally hostile towards people who say controversial things, and the fact that this person you're calling a "troll" (which almost always just means "person who says controversial things") for being reminiscent of my post was banned indicates that this website is generally hostile towards people who say controversial things.

I'm going to go further and predict right now that application of the pyramid of debate by whoever decides how it's applied is heavily biased and generally used as a control method against people who say things that are too controversial.

But that remains to be seen.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

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I'm starting to think that any communications model where one person has ultimate unchecked authority over anywhere from hundreds to millions of other people is inherently fucked because the incentives for scummy behavior by that top person and disincentives against scummy behavior are too overwhelming to ignore.

If there's a way forward it's gonna have to be some kind of decentralized shit where one guy at the top can't say "I'm sick of letting alla these people say whatever they feel like all the time, today were gonna get rid of [whatever fucking thing people say that pisses me off]" because anyone, no matter how well-intentioned, will eventually have that day, and then another one of those days, and then more of those days, and then they'll quit and be replaced by someone who has those days all the time.

Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco Home Vandalized With Graffiti And A Pig's Head Over Stimulus by Nemacolin in news

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Sure was nice of those vandals to put painter's tape on her brickwork so their spraypaint didn't ruin her brick and instead just messed up her easily repainted garage door.

Pretty considerate, you know?

Be careful from single moms by Airbus320 in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, or they wouldn't be single.

Can you say nigger faggot on this website? by ChimpGoyGirl in SaidIt

[–]Klenvastergan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually it's a completely reasonable response to the horrifying modern reality of black oppression of White people through unchecked violence.

The pyramid of debate is stupid by Klenvastergan in whatever

[–]Klenvastergan[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not from this site, no. I have never posted on this site before now under any name.

If I had been, that would be useful and relevant information though.

Thank you for helping to demonstrate my point on the value of ad hominems.