Are there any other Gay men here who don't believe in Trans Ideology?

Kai_Decadence · 2020-08-21T15:23:24+00:00

"Report her, she's spreading misinformation with no scientific grounds"

Oh fuck off. The doctor HAS to mention this stuff so the patient is aware of what they're doing to themselves so they're not liable for a lawsuit. Mad respect to the doctor and I hope she doesn't lose her job over standard procedure.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-08-08T09:34:38+00:00

Sad thing is you spoke the truth but these muppets will never comprehend it because their heads are so far up their asses to not see reality.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-02T15:14:36+00:00

No you're absolutely right about that. It's because of these fucking bisexual men who call themselves "gay" yet go for trans-identified women ("Transmen") is what is making it sound like gay really is jut as "preference for dick". It's the same with bisexual women larping as Lesbians and getting with these trans-identified men ("Transwomen") and still claiming they are penis loving lesbians. It's fucking stupid and I know that not all bisexuals are gross fakers but these lot definitely give them a bad reputation...

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-12T04:19:47+00:00

Yeah I think that would be good. I've already been called a "terf" a few times and I'm a guy Lol. It's like wanting to support women to have their spaces and rights is akin to being a Terf by association because God forbid you support a class that worked hard to get their spaces. I guess I'm just trying to brace myself because I will be talking about how I became gender critical on my YouTube channel and I just know I'm gonna be getting all these disparaging labels. So if I get called Transphobic, it's just best to stick to what I said and not address it at all?

Kai_Decadence · 2020-11-29T04:25:29+00:00

Their "goals" are anime girls, pinups, and models.

This crap right here... Eugh. See okay I'm a feminine gay man myself and my look is not masculine in the least but even when I was developing my style, I never wanted to aspire to be those things nor did I understand what the appeal was with that until I started reading more of those "How I knew I was trans" stories and point blank, they honestly believe that these things are what define what women are. Looking sexy and getting dominated. Marktwainiac's answer was right on the money. It's not about wanting to break gender roles, it's about their own porno-fueled fetish to get off and it mostly does happen when their wife is pregnant. It's sissy/bimbo fetish, at least for most AGP (Autogynephelia, though some Gay men - HSTS - fall into this as well).

In any case I'm so sorry that this happened to you. It's never nice having to read these stories because it comes out of left field and leaves the family devastated...

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-25T17:08:11+00:00

Nailed it. It's just a nonsensical word at this point because these TRA idiots call anyone who doesn't buy into trans ideology a "terf". Heck I've been called it a few times myself and I'm a guy. And yeah how can they be "trans exclusionary" when they allow and support the autonomy rights of "Transmen". It's just ridiculous.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-06-25T21:39:46+00:00

Saying that "Transwomen are not women" is not an opinion, it's a damn fact. There's no such thing as "Gender identity". There's no such thing as "Changing your gender" neither. You really expect me to believe in nonsense like that when A), femininity does not define women nor does masculinity not define men and B), the whole concept of "Gender identity" came from a glorified ped0phile of all people? Get real.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-01-12T22:57:15+00:00

I haven't watched the video and I don't think I want to but seeing a lot of the hate comments on Vanessa's video where it all is essentially "You're just made that "she's" prettier than you" is just... Braindead. They aren't even trying to refute anything she said in the video. I'm convinced though that like usual, it's mostly just a lot of tweens who are hatebombing her.

Anyway is this video even worth watching? Does Lux actually at least try (though fail) to refute any legitimate points that Vanessa actually made.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-05T20:57:24+00:00

I do agree. Thinking back to my childhood, I can't recall ever seeing any feminine presenting men in the media I was watching. Truth is though, I actually did in Sailor Moon. I remember the character Zoisite and how they changed him into a woman for the American dub to censor his relationship with Malachite aka, censor their gay relationship. Of course I was a kid at the time so I didn't know this but years later when I did, I was quite shocked.

But I agree, it's seemingly little things like that that can really help gender nonconforming kids.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-05-04T17:57:53+00:00

Agreed. I don't know any self-respecting Gay or Lesbian person who calls themselves "Queers", it's just either Bisexual or Straight people who do this and they don't seem to comprehend how stupid and ridiculous they sound when they say it and that includes calling the Gay community the "Queer community". We Gays and Lesbians, at least the ones who have self-respect never called it that.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-08-08T09:29:14+00:00

What the hell man? And I can't believe they put such a criminal in a women's prison. I don't blame you for feeling terrified, that was a completely brutal murder.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-08-08T17:13:30+00:00

THIS. That's how it is for a lot of them. Watching "sissy" porn and similar related fetish.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-08-08T18:45:09+00:00

Thanks. I feel a little better now getting that off my chest lol. It was just really nagging at me because I read through these stories of these men and they call themselves everything else under the sun but never a man and I'm just like "YOU ARE A MAN." Y'know? haha.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-23T18:09:42+00:00

This is good to know that there are others out there, I really needed to hear that because I just haven't seen that all that much where I live. You're right that most likely a lot of them are keeping their thoughts under raps lest they endure the wrath of the woke TRA crowd...

Kai_Decadence · 2020-08-07T22:05:46+00:00

Yep unfortunately gay men who are against Trans ideology get put on the chopping block as well but it's ironic because me being a gay man, a feminine non-conforming one at that, it's the other part of what made it so easy to see why the trans ideology was faulty since part of it relies heavily on social gender norms and that people like me or the butch lesbians, we disrupt the gender norms and show that it's not some innate thing (Men are born feminine, women are born feminine).

And yeah making friends as you get older is definitely hard, I'm one year away from 30 and I really haven't had any friends since high school, just a small online group but the GC stuff is definitely complicating things more. I hope you're right that more people peak hopefully soon.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-06-10T15:51:02+00:00

bully trans people

Shut up (not you, the TRAs). Gotta love the narcissistic rage but I'm so glad Maya won and I hope you're right that when it gets more media coverage, they don't twist the narrative.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-23T18:25:41+00:00

Right it really is, just on the reverse end and it's scary that they don't see that.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-08-21T15:15:38+00:00

Fuck off with this shit (not you OP, just these people). It's like anytime a character goes against gneder norms, you have these muppets say shit like "Oh I bet they're trans". Like what the fuck is wrong with these people? Is it really that hard to grasp that breaking socially constructed gender roles doesn't erase your sex. That in the case of Smellerbee, she just happened to be a tough masculine girl?

Kai_Decadence · 2021-07-07T06:34:16+00:00

A-Freaking-Men. What a joke.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-23T18:13:13+00:00

SWEET MERCIFUL HEAVENS! I was not ready for that and I had to look away but point taken LOL Yeah that thing is not a vagina and never will be, just a mutilated cut up penis...

Kai_Decadence · 2021-10-09T01:25:27+00:00

I think it's kinda true that black men have more of a social cache when talking this stuff. Well to an extent because as a black man myself who officially came out in support of women, I did face some backlash as all my friends abandoned me and on the video where I made my support known, I've gotten a few nasty comments. Not really rape threats, only got 2 but yet I can only imagine how much women get.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-08-08T21:37:00+00:00

Doesn't matter what he says. He's just too chickenshit to tell the truth. He knows damn well that no straight men are going for him period and that the men who try to get at him are Bisexuals (Most of them closeted). There's no need for the fucking kinsey scale in this equation, the simple fact of the matter is that he was/is attracting closet-case bisexuals, end of story. Sorry to be so blunt but I can't with Blaire and his disingenuous sense of self..

Kai_Decadence · 2021-08-08T21:33:24+00:00

Fucking thank you for this. Blaire White (and now Samantha Lux) are some of the biggest liars when it comes to this. They know damn well that they were attracting the same men they do now that they did before they adopted the Gender woo nonsense. And even then, Blaire ended up with a closet case bisexual (possible homosexual) man anyway. I hadn't seen blaire's old videos in awhile and recently radical feminist YouTuber Vanessa Vokey did a video on Blaire addressing the internalized homophobia that was evident in his boyfriend. The way that Joey reacted when he saw old photos of Blaire before he started going for the bimbo look (he's still a man, I don't buy into transgenderism period and his reactions were pretty telling.

I look like this and as you can see, I don't have hormone moobs or moob implants or surgically alterations but my look is still very feminine in comparison to the average man and even I get these men who claim to only be into trans-identified males. And I know for a fact Blaire did as well but the common thing was that these men suffered from internalized homophobia and only seek guys like us out for sex which isn't productive when you're trying to find a real relationship.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-05-16T09:10:45+00:00

They've been told the TERFs are threatening harm to transwomen, that transwomen are being mass killed in hate crimes, that kids commit suicide if they aren't instantly affirmed and transitioned...

But this is so freaking stupid If they actually looked into these claims, they'd see what a bunch of nonsense it really is. I tell these people to find me stories of a "transwoman" being murdered by a woman. CRICKETS. I show them statistics of how most "transwomen" are being murdered by other men and are a lot of the time sex workers, a dangerous business where murder is unfortunately common, especially towards women. And the whole suicide thing that is blown out of proportion. It's just maddening.

Basically they've been lied to, and they've been told anyone who calls out that bullshit is hateful and causing transpeople to die...

Hence why they don't even bother to try to stand their ground and defend their beliefs when they come across someone who doesn't belief in them. When I asked these people to define "woman" and "man" as well as to define what "living" as either sex is and how there's this growing erasure of Lesbians and Gays. They NEVER answer, they just yell "transphobe" and think that's a valid argument.

So they mass ban anyone who criticises. Because we are "the bad guys" and it makes them feel virtuous.

Right...

You'll notice they don't actually check to see if we are lying, because then they might get exposed to facts that conflict with their worldviews.

I know this to be true because I did the same thing before I peaked with Magdalen Berns helpful videos. I would always try to avoid any content that criticized the trans narrative because in my brainwashed mind, we were told to not question the ideology but once I took that plunge and actually tried defend trans ideology, I started to see the cracks in the ideology and well, 3 years later and I'm not GC. I think that's how it works for a lot of us to be honest, art least those of us who initially bought into the ideology.

I've had so many bans. Never posted one lie. I've had whole arguments deleted because the truth triggered the shit out of them. One memorable incident on gendercynical where I asked them if they could find me data to show they offended like women. Posted lots of claims of police discrimination then deleted the thread when they realised the offending was the same as male.

That is both bad ass and sad at the same time. Sad because they couldn't accept that maybe their ideology wasn't as foolproof as they thought it was. They couldn't accept that you came with the facts and resources to back it up and they couldn't handle it.

And no worries on the rant, it's totally justified.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-11-29T17:30:25+00:00

Very fair point. I especially cannot with the "Don't want to hear about it" people. TOUGH. If you can't handle an ideology being criticized and it's faults in logic being challenged then don't act all high and mighty on a pedastal when you yourself are too mentally lazy to even listen to the opposing side because when it comes to this whole Trans community cult, newflash not everyone who's against it are people who hate trans people like these people so foolishly buy into. In a way I suppose I could understand because when I first watched Magdale Berns' videos which was during the time I was drinking trans kool-aid, I didn't know how to process what I was hearing until I bit the bullet and actually listened to what she had to say in her videos and it was just eagle soaring from there.

But it just also showed me just how much people don't want to see reality because it goes against the "WOKE" brigade...

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-17T15:25:25+00:00

Oh I didn't know that GenderCriticalGuys was brought onto this site as well, I just thought it was this sub and LGBDropTheT. Thanks for the heads up! But yeah even LGBDropTheT, I see the sentiment that I mentioned in my post where a lot of these gay men and lesbians tend to not be as critical on HSTS and I just find that to be really unsatisfactory because they're essentially picking and choosing when you should be critical of the ideology as a whole if you're claiming to be critical of gender...

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-05T22:32:18+00:00

I agree. And I understand why some gay people want to see conforming gay characters but at the same time, I don't think we should be erasing nonconforming ones neither. I think there's room for both.

But yeah visibility and positive visibility at that is definitely important. That's why I try to be as social as I can be while not being afraid to show what I look like even if it goes against what is expected of men to look like.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-08-28T03:10:14+00:00

Thank you and I know deep down you're right that there are more people who agree with us than what we realize but it's still just scary because for those of us who want to try to make friends, especially IRL, it's such a scary thing to do these days because you don't know if the person you're talking with is a gender extremist you know?

Kai_Decadence · 2021-04-30T19:14:29+00:00

Eugh I'm so glad I'm not the one going through this. It's most certainly for woke points and it's so flipping annoying. For me personally, the podcast thing really got to me because I really do like the podcast but after hearing that shit a few days ago and will have to potentially hear them talk abot "Trans" shit whenever the "trans" character or the "Terf" Dean makes an appearance in an episode they cover, I just know I'm gonna have so much frustration with it.

And then I have trouble taking them seriously after hearing a rant about how TWAW or why JK Rowling is the devil.

Me too.... Me too... And so far I've had 2 or 3 people I watch talk about how JK Rowling is a terrible human being.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-04-24T21:31:46+00:00

That's the thing I don't fucking get. They bitch and moan about people like us on Reddit and when we finally have a place of our own, they still bitch and moan.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-01-20T16:54:03+00:00

"Fuck off" is what I have to say to the original post. so pretty much a straight white man, only this time a straight white man in makeup and long hair. I mean yeah it's something a little different but not really...

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-02T22:14:29+00:00

I'm sorry but there's just no way around this harsh truth that it's the bisexual people who are causing this. Because bisexuals are the ones who can be attracted to both genitals. I'll just say this though, it's the ones who are calling themselves "pansexual" that are the most guilty of this. Pansexuality is just a fancy, attention-seeking way of saying bisexual and these "I don't care about the genitals" thing, that's a bisexual thing. Genitals do matter to homosexual and heterosexual while it wouldn't be as much a deal to bisexual people and they essentially can genuinely prefer one or the other while we gays and heteros don't.

And yes I'm aware that bisexual people can go their whole formulate years and early adulthood not thinking they are bi until something triggers it, I'm very aware of that for sure.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-23T18:18:07+00:00

Okay watched more of it. Yeah no... I can't imagine a gay man looking at that phallus and wanting to go anywhere near that. I'm sorry but I just had to recoil knowing what that thing actually is... It's a totally eye scarring thing to see the procedure...

Kai_Decadence · 2021-08-28T03:08:44+00:00

Thank you, I do appreciate the kind words. I'm admittedly in a downer spot at this time but knowing myself, I'll more than likely bounce back soon. I just needed to vent because after losing the one last person who I thought would at least understand my point of view just really got to me.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-06-25T21:44:11+00:00

I totally understand that and I'm grateful this place exists. I guess I just wish I could run into more gay men who don't buy into the trans lie, especially more feminine gay men.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-01-17T03:32:24+00:00

Agreed. And Blaire is such a good example of this and how it affects Gay Youth since he was experiencing this negativity when he was a teenager. I would love to use him as a speak-piece in my video but I simply can't because he deleted those old livestreams that I can't use as evidence to back my claims up so it would be hearsay on my part and I know that Blaire will just deny, deny, deny these claims like he usually tends to do.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-01-17T03:09:05+00:00

Exactly. And the thing was I was not even saying that Blaire white was even ugly or anything, I was just kinda laughing when my brother kept saying that Blaire "looks like an actual female" because he doesn't. My brother can't tell when a face is edited through a face app and that is more or less what I was trying to say. I was finally able to find the source video where those infamous leaks of Blaire's unedited face pictures came from and I mean, Look at this. Does he seriously look like he has the face of a female? And keep in mind, this was done in August of 2018, a year after he had his FFS which he had done in late December of 2016 to January of 2017 which was just a nose job and his hairline lowered And as far as what he's done since then, I think the only thing he's gotten done were Lip fillers and cheek filler, nothing outright long-lasting.

Most people can't afford all that surgery, or would be scared to go through so much, or couldn't get that much time off work. Blaire presents such a pornified version of a fake woman. I don't know why he couldn't be happy as a feminine gay man. Nothing wrong with that. I don't know his life story. Maybe in his youth he got called a lot of slurs and he thought trying to turn his "girly" behavior into being a walking Playboy Bunny cartoon would make it all better. He just seems like a self-loathing gay man to me, and an insult to women.

Well since you asked, you're not too far off about why Blaire has such low self esteem about himself.

He has said that when he was "living as a boy", his father never accepted him because he was a homosexual (he came out as a teenager) and though he didn't say this other part, I am MORE THAN sure it was also because of how he looked which was very effeminate. This is what Blaire looked like when he was in high school and because Blaire mentioned that his father was a tad conservative, I am more than sure he didn't approve of his soon looking this way. And this further extended to his grandfather as well who also didn't accept him. And even when Blaire was starting to transition, his father still didn't accept him till death did him part (he died in 2014, a year before Blsaire started using HRT but came out prior as "transgender" in early 2014).
In the dating world, Blaire expressed how difficult he was finding the gay dating scene to be trying to date as an effeminate gay man. Video here The only boyfriend he ever had before Joey was a closet-case bisexual man who literally made Blaire hide in his closet when his parents came to visit him at his dorm and the boyfriend never was open about his relationship with Blaire.
In 2015 in a livestream Blaire mentioned how he was not able to attend large family functions because his exterior family didn't want him there.A similar thing happened with an older uncle Blaire had who was also a Gay man and was also not welcome to come to family gatherings neither. This even continued after Blaire "transitioned", his grandmother didn't want him to come to the function for Xmas of 2016 which is why he stayed him and live-streamed that day (and got drunk and spilled out over why he was alone for the holidays). I'm not sure if things got better now but you gotta admit, having to go through that is not easy at all.

Unfortunately Blaire deleted his old livestreams where he talked about his family issues and that experience he had with his ex-boyfriend and no one has seemed to archive it but believe me, I saw these livestreams because that was back when I was a big fan of his and tried to never miss a livestream and putting two and two together, those experiences were all recipe for a disaster of self-loathing. He even admitted last year that he had a drinking problem and wanted to stop drinking.

Sorry your brother has such an attitude. Why do you think he's so defensive of the whole trans agenda? Just an overal dismissal of women? But the whole Blaire thing is so anti-gay too.

You're right and honestly when I think about my brother, I think he actually is bothered with the fact that I'm happy being myself aka looking super nonconforming. I remember one time he told me how our stepmother disapproves of me looking the way I do and from there, made me remember that she would ALWAYS criticize me whenever I dressed the way I wanted to. My Dad as well but he wasn't as vocal as my stepmom was. And then whenever I would be hanging out with my brother in public spaces, he'd do that thing where he'd pretend like he wasn't associated with me when like walking to stores (walk ahead of me and make sure he was like at least 3-5 feet away from me). And with how he tries to throw insults at me when I'm going on my explanation about why Transwomen aren't women just because they perform femininity, I just feel like deep down he's ashamed that he has a brother who "looks weird" .

Kai_Decadence · 2021-01-13T07:56:25+00:00

I'm mentally vomiting in head with that description so with that, I'm gonna pass on watching his video because i know I'm just gonna get really agitated and I'm trying to be a little more zen at this time. But yeah I agree with you so much with how disgusting these men are thinking that being a woman is all about looking as fuckable ("feminine") you are and attracting men's attention while bulldozing and trampling on women's rights. And these fetishists then start targeting us GNC women and men and try to shame us because we disrupt their little cult mentality.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-12-17T23:15:29+00:00

Some people are but it's not the general way of things.

Exactly and more often than not the people who don't mind those things happen to be Bisexual. Oh wait, "Pansexual" /s But no seriously, they are just bisexuals who tend to be into those things.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-11-29T17:36:36+00:00

You're very lucky. and I'm glad you didn't have to go through this. I'm currently 29 and I'm a gay man so there's that. A lot of my friends were actually straight & bi women as well as 2 straight male friends who all are engulfed i the Trans community politics though I just didn't know how deep until I made my post defending Maya Forstater and JK Rowling as well as saying "Men can't become women, women can't become men" (at the time prior, I was mostly closeted about my beliefs since I feared losing people but seeing the reaction towards JK Rowling and Maya, I just felt it was time to speak up at that point).

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-12T09:05:07+00:00

Ultimately you're right. It's just a buzzword at this point just like "Terf" so it really doesn't mean anything. I guess it just annoys me because it's being used as a tactic to silence people from daring to speak the truth. It really is like 1984 where essentially they call you these things to try to alienate because you're engaging in their version of wrongthink.

Kai_Decadence · 2022-01-08T16:48:33+00:00

That's pretty cool to know lol. I don't meet many gays and lesbians in my personal life but I remember back in 2020, I had the opportunity to work with a coworker who happened to be a lesbian and I learned that she was annoyed that there were men on lesbian dating apps and when I told her I understood her, she just flat out said she doesn't believe men can be lesbians. It was amazing haha. I think you're right, I think that most know it's BS but aren't open about it because they don't want to deal with annoying TRA backlash.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-02T15:16:42+00:00

Yep, I've seen the frankenweenie that these "Transmen" get and yeah no thanks, it doesn't compare to the real thing.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-08-08T21:59:52+00:00

Exactly, I think it's harder when it comes from women being so complacent with the way trans ideology is bulldozing over women's spaces like not caring if men use the women's restroom or going to women's shelters. Like I've gotten called a "white knight" a few times form women saying that I'm not gonna get any points to sleep with women by speaking out against trans even though I am clearly a gay man lol

Kai_Decadence · 2022-10-14T23:43:23+00:00

As a gay men, these women are just as delusional as the "transbians"

Some mix of transmasc agender genderfluid

Like what...? Lol.

Mostly because when I tried to like guys when I didn't know I was trans it always felt wrong because I was pretending to be straight and since I'm a guy it just felt dysphoric and awkward

Why does it feel like there is more to this story? Was she facing a lot of rejection from guys? Is it because she didn't like the traditional gender roles in the relationships she was in? So many questions.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-08-28T04:41:11+00:00

Right. I mean the Covid stuff doesn't help but still, with how much every person you meet seems to be in gender woo with no rhyme or reason, it's just scary. Like no joke, I went to a store earlier today and I saw a shirt in there that said "Trans rights are human rights". It's like freaking hell man, you can't avoid it lol. But thank you, I'm gonna try

Kai_Decadence · 2021-07-07T06:30:54+00:00

Right I will agree. I think that while life can be pretty unforgiving to feminine gay men, especially if they are GNC in appearance, I think the transition lie is much worse with Lesbians. I was listening to another podcast of a detransitioned Lesbian who explained that she didn't know any other Lesbians growing up because all the ones who she met were all "identifying" as something other than Lesbians from "Transmen" to "non-binary" and I've heard similar stories like hers from other detransitioned Lesbians as well. It's awful...

Kai_Decadence · 2021-05-16T09:01:24+00:00

I understand. It's just that I used to go to Reddit to try to socialize because I don't have a social network in my real life and when I came out as GC back in 2019, a lot of the few friends I had abandoned me. So specific Reddit groups like the Goth group and the Gay sub were places I would go to try to socialize.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-05-16T08:59:26+00:00

I did get a little chuckle from that as well lol.

Kai_Decadence · 2021-05-16T08:57:46+00:00

Thank you for the kind words, I was honestly surprised that there are goths from that sub who are on this website but if it means anything, I appreciate the comment because it shows that not all in the Goth scene are some hivemind even though that thread made it look like that to be honest.

The biggest reason why I was so surprised at the banning was because I never once posted any of my GC beliefs in that thread nor did I start fights with any of the Trans-identified people in that group. But yeah they still felt like I'm some dangerous person who needs to be hidden just because of what I said (which aren't even hateful) outside of the group on my own time. The funny thing is that I hadn't seen my old posts in a long time so going back to them was a real nostalgia bomb, especially the JK Rowling one because I had people trying to challenge my views and I accepted it. I tried to be as fair as I could by simply answering the questions and asking questions back but revisiting that comment thread, I noticed how not one person even bothered to answer any of my questions which should really show to others how the ideology is faulty.

Ans you're so right about what the Goth scene originally stood for. Aside from the music, it was also known for it's open-mindedness when it came to gender roles and how it was no big deal for men to be feminine or women to be masculine. But now in the 2010s, the w0Ke crowd invaded and now it's all about this trans insanity. Like it was getting really bad when you have people trying to trans Rozz Williams (RIP) of all people... It really aggravates and annoys me because he's one of the few somewhat prominent GNC men aside from the late Pete Burns.

Reality is most trans people are fine just like most men are, some however are not safe and we have to admidt predators exist and support women in staying safe.

Exactly. While I do mention AGPs, I never said that all trans-identified men were Autogynephiles because they aren't and for the most part are fine but just a little lost because they're thinking too much about socially constructed gender norms and I don't think it should be wrong to point that out.

And I would figure that Aytakk since he's somewhat GNC himself would understand where someone like me is coming from but it appears not...

To add to the insanity they are comparing cancelling another goth who expressed support for the Confederacy to being Gender Critical as if the two things are remotely comparable. Because supporting feminists is the same as endorsing slavery and a war which killed 100,000s of people.

That's the thing that pissed me off, I won't lie. Them comparing me to a confederate who may be racist (I haven't actually looked deeply into this topic yet) was truly upsetting but again, not surprising...

Kai_Decadence · 2021-01-12T23:00:25+00:00

I've tried to refute a few but they are really piling in and they all are so vapid. I just hope that Vanessa can hold firm and strong and see through the bullshit as well as hopefully find some other YouTuber support. Karen from You're Kiddin' Right has been killing it so far and I think more than ever that women need to stick together with this kinda thing, strength in numbers.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-06T07:33:25+00:00

I actually already have a YouTube channel of the same name as my Saidit name "Kai Decadence". Currently I make Goth subculture related content but I recently made an announcement that I'm gonna be changing content up a bit and will be doing "LGBT (soon to be LGB)" content and will be doing some Gender critical type videos where I'm picking apart trans ideology as well as trying to help HSTS (and especially young gay men thinking they are trans). Pretty much will be the male version of GNC Centric. I definitely would love to collab with her sometime though. I just want to dip my toes in first and see how I do lol

Kai_Decadence · 2020-10-05T00:05:26+00:00

What's more annoying with the situation I recently had was that my brother already knew where I stood on the whole trans ideology though I think he probably forgot because he thinks Blaire white is "true trans" and also because of Blaire White's infamous "debate" with Yaniv and he thinks that he was the one who exposed him and brought justice and when I told him that many women were talking about Yaniv way before Blaire had that livestream, he just disregarded what I said.

But anyway it's not like me calling him what he actually is is saying he's a bad person or something like that and that's what makes when people get pissy with me for not calling him by female pronouns bewildering. Oh and to answer your question, Rose of Dawn is another Trans-identified man who also speaks out against TRAs and I've seen people prop him on the pedestal they do for Blaire as well,

I have stopped caring about being considered a bad person by individuals who think that womanhood is about plastic surgery/ stereotypes/what "ejaculators" say it is a long time ago. You just have to decide if you care about it or not. I have abandoned any kind of fucks I could have given when it comes to language and hurting feelings, so if it' s rude to call a man a man, then I guess I am rude. I can live with that.

I really want to get to this place as well. To quote Mag, "I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar" and that definitely applies to this for sure. But I'm still kinda new to talking more openly about this and am not used to the backlash yet but I just gotta work on that. I guess my situation with my brother threw me off because I've already been dropped by many people who I thought were my friends when I came out in support for JK Rowling and Maya Forstater last year and while my social circle was always fairly small, it's almost nonexistent now and my brother was one of the few people I still talked with until this.

I am not a fan of White anyway: he might be a little more reasonable than regular TRAs, but he reached his opinions through conservatism. Not to mention, whenever someone posts a video or a comment by him and I decide to watch it, the overwhelming feeling I get from them is that he is attacking lunatic TRAs because he is afraid that once society peaks, people like him are going to have it harder. In short, he' s more interested in himself than he is in logic and reason, and it wold be ok if he (and his groupies) at least admitted it, but for some reasons he' s considered a champion for women, children, LGBs, when the truth is that he is using those categories because he can use them to rise himself.

EXACTLY. I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who sees what Blaire and the others like him are trying to pull by only going after crazy TRAs to make themselves look better and not be up for criticism. I mean isn't it ironic how they only ever really go after TRAs but when tit comes to "Terfs", they have nothing to say. I mean going back to Magdalen Berns, she was very vocal against trans ideology and you'd think that she would be up on the chopping block to get "put in her place" by these "logical" types like Blaire to prove that trans ideology is a solid ideology but they never did. And they can't say that it's because she wasn't well known because she certainly was.

In short I agree with everything you said. While he is reasonable compared to TRAs, it doesn't make him any more "valid" as a woman compared to the former and it's clear him and people like him are doing this as a diversion tactic to keep people from critiquing and questioning them.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-29T22:20:47+00:00

it pales in comparison to neckbeards speaking in falsetto voices trying to roleplay as UwU smol twans anime catgirl lesbians UwU.

AHHHH I can already hear that voice now Lmao I remember clicking on a video recently to watch on YouTube and the first thing I heard was that oh so familiar voice. The person linked to their twitter in the description and I clicked it to give it a look and sure enough, it was definitely one of these types. It's funny how they don't understand how that voice is not "feminine", it's actually cartoonish and annoying, especially since you know it's not their real voice.

Kai_Decadence · 2020-09-12T17:01:46+00:00

You're right. I'm sure I'm gonna be put through the ringer though I'm gonna laugh if they call me a "racist" considering I'm black and with the exception of one video I did where race was kinda important, it was not a racist thing but I know that people will twist it.

I'd suggest make a first video about being gender critical, make sure you carefully draw the lines on what you believe (of course people can dress themselves any way they want, but that doesn't change your. No, no one should be beaten up based on their beliefs about themselves, but also women shouldn't be forced to share intimate spaces with men no matter what those men feel).

Yeah I was gonna do something like that. What I was thinking of doing is that since I am a gay man, I was gonna start with a video that highlights my top 10 unpopular LGBT opinions with the my not believing in trans ideology being one of them and give a brief explanation why. Then I was gonna make a follow up video where I go all in on why I feel the way I do about the transgender ideology. I'm not necessarily trying to become a Gender Critical channel but it's just something that I want to talk about because there are certain things that just aren't being said that I'd like to bring to the surface and add to the debate.

But I'm also trying to mentally prepare because after coming out as Gender critical last year and losing some friends, it really did kinda hurt since I don't have a large social circle to begin with.

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