QT: How is not creepy/predatory for people with male bodies aka men to demand access to women's single sex spaces where women are going to naked like locker rooms?

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T08:41:03+00:00

Its not creepy because those are our spaces. It is however creepy that people focus so much on us just trying to use our spaces.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-30T01:49:44+00:00

Because it doesn’t matter? Sex is a spectrum and “woman” is an identity.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T18:22:03+00:00

I guess the bigots don’t get to compete then

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T18:16:37+00:00

Because we’re women

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T18:15:02+00:00

Sex is a spectrum, there are no female bodies. Also they can’t give consent for something that already belongs to trans women

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-30T00:49:28+00:00

How quaint that you think that matters

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-29T18:21:45+00:00

The spa was in the right if the person in question was a woman. Bigotry has no place in the running of a business

Edit: took the story the wrong way

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T18:15:17+00:00

Just the bigots

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T08:38:48+00:00

Not true. Due to the numbers involves cis women usually beat trans women.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T08:37:09+00:00

Fantastic. Its a win for fairness and equality

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T14:53:03+00:00

Nor is there a reason to distinguish between cis women and trans women. Which is why a sex spectrum model works best for describing sex, just as a species spectrum model is better at describing evolutionary states over time than imagining species as objectively distinct entities

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T11:18:47+00:00

I mean yes? Also way to misgender me when you get frustrated.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T10:41:08+00:00

A social construct

By their sex spectrum status

XYZ definition

I mean, they’re not inherently anything.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-05T20:29:27+00:00

Neither. Disorders are social constructs

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T05:54:26+00:00

You’re not. Trans women are women

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T17:06:10+00:00

No, no humans are male or female because its a spectrum. Also the number of limbs on a human being is objectively not a fixed number, so yeah you could describe it as a spectrum.

All sex traits determine an individuals sex spectrum status, not just “primary” ones. The distinction is arbitrary.

Mammalian reproduction following a two gamete pattern does not show that their are only two sexes, because some people who don’t produce gametes. Since those people aren’t sexless, sex is based on anatomy and therefore a spectrum as sexual anatomy occurs in intermediate forms across a whole range of possible sex trait configurations.

It in no way supports such an idea? The issue is oppressive systems of thinking not people posessing certain sex trait configurations

Cis people and their noxious sytsems of oppression are what fuel the tendency for trans people to normalize their appearances in line with cis standards of appearance. I’m sorry, what was that you said about victim blaming? 🙄

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T16:29:39+00:00

You have no idea what the “Gender Identity movement” is about if you think that we support any sort of gender roles. We are the gnc people, unlike most of Gender Critical with their talk of “female appearances”. Lookin at you /u/loveSloane

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-16T21:33:06+00:00

No meat grown in a lab would still be meat even of its artificially created. Artificial just means made by humans

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T22:13:44+00:00

Trans men do have penises though. You mean to say that you expect a man that you’re interested in to have a penis of a certain type. Also you don’t have to announce it but remember that if you assume and you’re wrong you shouldn’t get mad at the other person, you should just tell them that it isn’t going to work out and leave.

Reasonable is subjective

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T08:33:25+00:00

The term homosexuality is different from same sex attraction.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-09T04:27:16+00:00

Insults. Reported

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T23:39:48+00:00

No it isn’t. Individualized care should be the standard, not assumptions based off of outmoded binary sex models.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T11:15:44+00:00

Not really. Post structuralist philosophies advance many of the ideas of nominalism, and nominalism itself is still an extant position in philosophy.

I’m sorry, I just can’t bring myself to commit to the effort of educating you all on nominalism when it will achieve nothing. It just seems like wasted effort

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T10:55:26+00:00

Nominalist remember? All categories are social constructs, so yeah it tends to feature heavily in my thought processes

I didn’t say anything was inherently different.

The logical implications of nominalism

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-06T16:33:01+00:00

I mean yeah, species are a social construct

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T00:48:03+00:00

Yeah it is. You’re not in charge of denoting what is or is not a penis.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T00:19:31+00:00

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T00:09:54+00:00

How about you not use ableist insults?

Because people can’t just change their preferences? I never said they could.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T22:26:34+00:00

Not everyone agrees with the view that trans people are an imitation of their identified sex. If you feel that they are, then the onus is on you to make that opinion and preference known

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T22:03:56+00:00

There are plenty of trans people to talk about without talking about other sub members. And making assumptions about why people think things is just illogical. None of us know enough about each other to know why we think things.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-30T01:31:43+00:00

The question was what do you think, and I answered.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-29T18:31:03+00:00

Hopefully saidit dies soon

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T18:16:21+00:00

You should not apply modern labels to ancient people

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-16T22:32:45+00:00

“Homosexual” is from the late 19th century.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T11:30:08+00:00

Dude can be gender neutral, but plenty of people don’t use it in such a way. I’ll keep in mind that you do.

I didn’t give one word answers, I gave a multi sentence answer. It’s not worthless, I just think that there is a 99% chance that it won’t help based on my prior attempts to do so. And Im depressed and barely get on the sub anymore so it just feels like a pointless exercise. Besides you don’t need me to find out about this stuff if you really cared to.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T10:34:49+00:00

No they aren’t, the species concept doesn’t hold up a clearly shown by the sorites paradox

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T05:44:15+00:00

Its not reifying gender to use she/her pronouns, to refer to oneself as female/a women, and to say that trans women are women.

You have misunderstood the sex matrix; trans women aren’t women on the sex matrix, because there isn’t a “woman” section on the sex matrix.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T16:37:54+00:00

Because those things are helpful for trans kids and teenagers. Mermaid and GLAAD aren’t saying that being a tomboy is inherently evidence of being trans. We have those surgeries because of cis people being more likely to abuse us when we don’t match cis normative appearance standards, just the same as cis people who have the same surgeries do.

Everything isn’t focused on conformity, that is just the part of the trans movement that you are focused on.

Literally not how gaslighting works. In order for it to be gaslighting I have to be lying to you about my thoughts and experiences and I’m not.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-20T17:09:07+00:00

All categories are subjective contructs

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T17:15:54+00:00

Yep, its a spectrum

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T13:58:09+00:00

Yeah because super straight does it in a transphobic way

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T13:52:09+00:00

I mean you’re question was worded offensively in the first place. Transgender people are not a separate category

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T05:39:54+00:00

Look I’m fine if you want to use the term vagina. The term seems a bit like its defining one set of genitals by another set of genitals, which I find kinda problematic, but whatever its your choice.

I did not use it as a general term I used it in relation to trans guys.

How about you not fucking talk about other commentors bodies unless they themselves bring it up like the rules say, kay?

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T05:27:30+00:00

All trans people have a gender appropriate cutie mark on their ass .

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T03:27:05+00:00

And they wonder why they don’t have many QT posters 🙄

But do as thou wilt your majesty.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T03:19:35+00:00

No doing it in a transphobic way is transphobic

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T02:10:30+00:00

Then we’re basing sex off of anatomy and not gametes, and anatomy occurs along a spectrum.

Not babies, but human zygotes have been produced via cloning for scientific purposes, before being destroyed.

Anatomy, which is actually what determines sex status.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T00:28:39+00:00

Or your just wrong about the meaning

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T00:24:59+00:00

Still ableist.

I disagree that preferences are inherently not requirements. Preference just denotes a desire for one state of affairs over any others.

Again, you don’t get to choose what your preferences are.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T23:43:22+00:00

Its a preference for one term over another when both refer to the same things. Semantics

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T23:17:43+00:00

It’s not comparable.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T20:37:09+00:00

No, trans people do not have an ethical duty to disclose their trans status anymore than people of non-obvious racial, ethnic, marital, or religious status have a duty to disclose said status to potential sexual partners. It is up to the person who has such preferences to disclose them, and then trans or other people have an ethical obligation to not sleep with them.

It is safer for trans people to disclose in certain areas and safer for trans people to not disclose in other areas (such as places where being trans is a crime)

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T16:40:09+00:00

Not being surrounded by far-right subs is what I miss.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-08T16:26:03+00:00

Yes as Ive shown before

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-30T01:37:29+00:00

I mistook the situation

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-30T01:26:21+00:00

Says the person who believes in the objective existence of categories. I bet you think color objectively exists too

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-30T00:50:08+00:00

Obvious statement is obvious?

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-18T01:46:55+00:00

No I’d apply it to all of the above

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T18:19:30+00:00

We shouldn’t be describing ancient people with modern labels

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-17T08:34:50+00:00

Again it was an admin, not a mod

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-16T15:44:29+00:00

Gay and Trans are both western concepts that shouldn’t be applied to ancient indigenous cultures

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-16T00:12:36+00:00

Reddit appears to have a zero tolerance policy. If you comment or post in a reddit sub, you'll get banned immediately.

Not true. I reported someone the other day and they received a warning from the admins

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-12T10:11:37+00:00

There’s no back pedaling?

No all the others don’t objectively exist either.

I believe that if they’re calling themselves AGP then they have a misconception about the nature of their sexuality.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-12T03:34:21+00:00

No I don’t believe in autogynephilia as it’s usually described, nor do I believe that what is happening solely affects trans women

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T23:38:27+00:00

I like to think that it helps me avoid drawing generalizations about circumstances and to try to remain humble about the limitations of my human viewpoint. It also influences my religious views as I mostly Identify as a buddhist and agree with the teaching that all things are empty of intrinsic existence and nature.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T11:00:16+00:00

I mean, kind of rude. I answered your questions honestly.

Heimdekledi · 2021-06-07T10:56:30+00:00

Sounds wasteful of both time and food. Be a planeteer.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-14T22:01:52+00:00

Yes I’m aware sex is a spectrum I was just giving you the usual “binary” answer to the question

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T05:46:21+00:00

Noe of this is true. Trans people aren't turning gnc people trans, and were not insisting on strict gender roles for trans people to follow either.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T05:38:40+00:00

You do not speak for all disabled people, and I personally find them offensive so don’t apply them to me or my thoughts, thank you.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T05:14:15+00:00

You cannot use an ableist slur like “dumb” or “stupid” without contributing to ableism

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T05:12:35+00:00

No trans people are against boxes as well

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T04:35:24+00:00

A gamete must be formed in order for determination of sex based on gamete type to be used.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T04:22:45+00:00

You don’t think that “dumb” is an ableist slur and that to use it in a negative manner increases the stigma felt by differently people when its used against them?

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T04:12:47+00:00

It isn’t based on stereotypes its based off a sex trait group orientation instinct. Maybe.

It isn't like anything to be the “opposite sex” the term is defined by the experiences of the people existing not some essentialistic conception of “female” thought/experience, quit arguing against someone else’s argument.

I probably reinforce gender less than you do. I mean we know that you believe that there exist “male” and “female” appearances so thats pretty gender normative by itself.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T03:51:52+00:00

It was intended to cover people whom could produce any sort of viable gamete at any point in their lives. This would be a gamete basis of sex after all.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T03:47:21+00:00

It was clearly ableism. Is that not against the rules?

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T03:35:12+00:00

More ableism. Also yes they do, see religion.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-13T03:24:53+00:00

Um better off trans people?

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T17:40:24+00:00

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T17:14:47+00:00

You’re looking at this backwards. Its not “I liked x so Im y” its “I am y so I became interested in x because society pushes x onto y’s”. I mean its not like cis girls have a biological attraction to certain toys or interests, its all just societal messaging and it affects trans girls to, even if just unconsciously.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T16:51:41+00:00

There is no difference between cis girls and trans girls athletically if they take hormone blockers and hrt. Why shouldn’t they get to play?

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T16:44:29+00:00

Untrue. Cis women beat trans women in sports all the time. Cos women compete against other cis women who have physical advantages over them all the time. Including trans women and girls in female sports does not mean that trans women will always win or that trans women will always have physical advantages over their cis counterparts. To say so is simply wrong.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T16:20:12+00:00

The sex binary is a part of gender. Sex trait combinations actually occur along a spectrum. With no artificial sex binary and the oppressive societies that they breed, people who are born with or desire different sex trait combinations won’t be stigmatized.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T16:10:16+00:00

It wouldn’t, just as socialism wouldn’t exist in a perfect communist utopia.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T15:39:05+00:00

Understand that I am equally horrified by your views.

Heimdekledi · 2021-05-12T15:31:30+00:00

Because I consider the patriarchy and more specifically the kyriarchy to be the root of oppression against women.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-21T18:53:19+00:00

Its an opinion so correct and incorrect don’t enter into it

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-20T16:43:41+00:00

Seems like you’re presuming that survey results = actual number of lesbians in real life = “natural” biological rate of homosexuality among women, is that correct?

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-20T16:28:30+00:00

Autogynephilia is impossible in women, same as autoandrophilia is impossible in men.

Psssh the cis straights talk about “feeling like a woman” or “feeling like a man” in regards to sex all the time. Sounds like gender euphoria in a sexual context to me!

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-20T16:22:02+00:00

agree with that, many of these male transitioners are "transbians" as you say, way more than we would expect had they truly been "female"

I didn’t realize “females” were supposed to keep to some “natural” percentage of non-lesbians.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-20T16:12:28+00:00

You shouldn’t base your perceptions of GC as a group entirely off of Houseplant

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-20T15:50:32+00:00

You said it wouldn’t be real meat, but it would be considered meat.

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-16T21:23:17+00:00

Not really. That’s primarily when the fighting started

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T17:21:31+00:00

Dana rivers was after GC and what are you referring to that happened in 1973

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T17:14:34+00:00

It’s not a derogatory term though, and it never has been. It’s only ever been used by trans men to refer to their own bodies. The fact that you banned a term that isn’t even meant for you and is widey used by the trans masc community proves that there is no real intention towards making this place at all acceptable for QT posters. You reign over an echo chamber your highness

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T16:43:02+00:00

How about not banning a commonly used term for trans mens genitals on a whim your majesty?

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T13:57:08+00:00

What part of what I said in any way implies that you can’t turn down anal sex? Has a sea witch stolen both your voice and your ability to convey your feelings non-verbally?

Heimdekledi · 2021-07-09T13:48:36+00:00

What are you talking about? GC feminists in the 70’s were the ones who started this whole situation

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