Dems torn over transgender issue: Centrists worry that party is ‘reading the public wrong’

Gritobo · 2024-11-14T23:51:23+00:00

Yup. In that case, even, the issue is the doping, not the gender identity, which is all that trans is.

Gritobo · 2024-11-13T23:54:23+00:00

We knew what the narrative would be when they lost the election, that it's white women's fault.

This is the one time when they know what woman means.

Gritobo · 2024-11-13T23:53:16+00:00

Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), who sparked a firestorm of criticism recently when he said transgender ~~girl~~ boy athletes have no place in women’s sports, insisted Democrats need to allow an open debate about how to defend against attacks from Republicans on transgender rights.

Corrected because nobody's complaining about they/them women/girls playing in female leagues.

There’s already been intra-party backlash for Democrats who oppose transgender ~~women~~ men playing in women’s sports.

Again, this article uses unclear language.

If gender identity and sex are different, then how come it's so wrong to have single-sex leagues for sports?

Gritobo · 2024-11-11T21:33:35+00:00

What's crazy about this girl is that people are actually getting upset over "misgendering" her.

Gritobo · 2024-11-11T21:10:06+00:00

MrMenno gives a good description of normal gays (and normal lesbians, etc.).

Gritobo · 2024-11-11T18:08:23+00:00

It was intended to be a pun on gray rock and great advice. I guess it fell flat. Darn!

Gritobo · 2024-11-10T23:08:43+00:00

Normal gays, normal lesbians, and normal bisexuals are not in favour of this crap. Trump probably won the "normal gay" vote.

Gritobo · 2024-11-10T22:34:48+00:00

I posted this because the woman in the comments reminds me of the terven found on /r/GenderCritical (RIP) and Ovarit. What does everyone think?

Gritobo · 2024-11-10T22:25:16+00:00

That's the whole point of their language games. It's to confuse and control people.

Gritobo · 2024-11-09T22:45:27+00:00

Do we actually know if all participants are using the words men and women to mean the same thing?

Gritobo · 2024-11-09T02:52:10+00:00

Given that kink and crap at pride parades are a part of grooming, I actually do think that gender critical people need to be concerned about it.

Gritobo · 2024-11-09T01:48:56+00:00

No mention of LGB but you know that woke people are gonna call this "anti-LGBTQ+" or whatever.

Gritobo · 2024-11-09T01:44:14+00:00

I guess my main point is that it's probably more realistic to do the 4B movement as a way to personally benefit yourself rather than expecting it to actually change men's minds or actions. I suppose that things could change if every woman and girls were on board, but this is not the case.

Gritobo · 2024-11-08T19:52:07+00:00

I agree that 4B adherents are like "political lesbians" (most of whom are febfems) in some ways. Nevertheless, the push against hook-up culture is surely something that their "opponents" appreciate. Either way, it's another push against unwanted pregnancies I hope.

Gritobo · 2024-11-08T17:23:11+00:00

Yeah, and these libfems are gonna freak out because they're gonna realize that they're including TIMs as men, especially if some are febfems. Moreover, the average actual conservative man (and woman) is happy that these women are no longer participating in hook-up culture, so this isn't the own that some of these libfems think it is. Look at this one comment on the video featured in the video that a man made:

4B movement is such a w. Finally bringing back Christian values🗣️

It's strange because the lack of abortion access really highlights that, yes, men and women are different and that biology reality matters. We'll see how this plays out for the terven. Hopefully it hits back against hook-up culture. I suspect that some women, namely younger women, will peak as a result as well.

Gritobo · 2024-11-08T00:46:27+00:00

The "most anti-LGBTQ lection in decades"? Funny because both candidates were openly in favour of gay marriage. In 2008, neither were. It's just that trans privilege is not being perpetuated under Trump.

Gritobo · 2024-11-07T03:28:47+00:00

Why does he fear violence? After all, isn't gender identity internal only? As long as you don't out yourself, you're fine. Women can't do that when being targeted for rape. Black people couldn't do that when being enslaved. Jewish people couldn't do that when being gassed.

Gritobo · 2024-11-06T05:23:20+00:00

They want to do whatever they want all the time. It's why TIFs usually play in the women's league while TIMs also play in the women's league. Same with TIFs being allowed into either the men's or the women's room. It's really stupid.

Gritobo · 2024-11-06T05:04:19+00:00

Not sure where I'd get people, but that might be my best option at this point. Funny because I'm actually of neither of those groups but I have noticed that pride parades are often a safe haven for groomers. Sad really.

Gritobo · 2024-11-06T05:00:50+00:00

I see! I've seen a few of her videos and think that she's good. I've joined the server and it needs phone verification unfortunately, so I guess I can just lurk there since I don't want to link my GC stuff to my phone.

Gritobo · 2024-11-05T17:41:46+00:00

'Cause I'm a dude. lol

Gritobo · 2024-11-04T18:23:13+00:00

It's nice to be able to actively participate with the terven since the fall of /r/GenderCritical. I do worry, however, that this may lead to Ovarit's fall. Hopefully it returns as planned.

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