Who's gonna tell 'em erasing our spaces doesn't erase us? by iejrv9oiwvij3wrvo9 in GenderCritical

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They think that not letting them into places erases them, so it makes sense that they'd think not letting us into places should erase us.

The Trans Ego: Why Allies are becoming TERFS by malleus_maleficarum in GenderCritical

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They really are. If they'd stopped when so many of us agreed to call them the pronouns they prefer and supported them in transitioning medically as adults they'd be sitting pretty right now.

Instead they've created a situation in which people are so scared to be labeled a "TERF" that those people are silent while angrily stewing in what they actually know to be true, and kids who will later sue the shit out of their "gender-affirming" doctors are victims of what everyone will soon recognize as psychotic medical malpractice.

The people who think this insanity will last forever are wrong. It won't. But the fact that it won't is based on something really sad: it won't last forever because they are harming as many people as possible, as viciously as possible. They're creating so much suffering, much of it permanent, that they'll be absolutely fucked when this is over. And they deserve that. But in the meantime they're ruining lives. The ruined lives and TRAs' ultimate ruination are inextricably linked.

I think AskGayBros hit peak trans in this thread by fuck_reddit in LGBDropTheT

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I noticed that too, and they mentioned "transbians" making violent threats towards lesbians who won't fuck them. It was nice to see them standing up for lesbians.

On r/actuallesbians, penises make lesbian sex easier. How convenient! by fuckupaddams in LGBDropTheT

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Yeahhhh. And it's clear these aren't the sort of guys who engage in anything that doesn't involve their penis. That is definitely not a person who's ever brought a woman to orgasm. I wouldn't be surprised if he said going down on a woman is "triggering" since it reminds him of the vagina he doesn't have.

Punch gay men if they reject you by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

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It's pretty natural to be upset by straight women trying force conversion therapy upon others via lies and assault. "I want you and so I'll lie to get you to fuck me and hurt you if you say no," is sociopathic no matter who it's aimed at.

In these cases though, it's not just sociopathic. It's also fucking dumb. If they want to have sex with men, they could easily have sex with straight men.

"Boypussy" pisses me off just as much as "girldick." Both start with a word describing children and end with a porny slang term for a sexual organ. It's so gross.

The vibe of this sub seems a lot different than the original r/gendercritical by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I think it's because people are mad about getting banned on Reddit. It felt like a punch in the gut to see all GC subs banned and then to see PCOS and pregnancy taken over because they weren't "inclusive" enough.

Officially lost my best friend to gender theory by RealWomenResist in GenderCritical

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I'm so sorry. Losing a beloved friend is definitely heartbreaking.

Even if you know you're right, that doesn't make it hurt less. It can even make it more confusing. Relationships that end based on something that doesn't make sense to the point where your ex (including ex-friends) was delusional... it's hard to ever feel a sense of closure about that.

You're less alone than she is. She's bought into a fake ideology and her friends in that ideology are fake, just the way friends in a cult are fake; if you leave the cult the relationships are over. There are no friendships in cults. The only friend is the ideology.

I'm so sorry you are experiencing this pain though.

But hey "sex is a choice" y'all. I thought sex was a social construct. How can there be such a thing as sex slavery? by fijupanda in LGBDropTheT

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He's advocating for women who've already been raped to be raped even more. As he says about the fact that many anti-prostitution women are trafficking victims:

just means they have more experience for the job

TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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The ban is also what made me join here. I only ever lurked at GC back when it was on Reddit.

r/lgbt just spreading awareness about 99% of the world’s population. You get a flag even for not giving a damn. by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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So almost all of the "cis" people I know are cassgender.

If we want to use cassgender as a descriptor (which I don't really, but I will for a moment), I think the vast majority of people fit into that category.

The people who come up with this shit are ridiculous. They seem to think most humans reflect 24/7 on their gender. We "cis" people wake up every day and feel fantastic about our gender.

Yes, first thing in the morning, I wake up and think, "Thank God a doctor said I was female when I was born! What wonderful titties I have!"

Oh, wait. No. When I wake up in the morning I think about what I need to do that day.

TRANS Intends to Actively Destroy Our LGB Movement. They started with the most vulnerable and are now working their way up. Here's the archived blueprint, so as to not give them clicks. by lairacunda in LGBDropTheT

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I'm clearly doing this TERF thing wrong. Where's my money from the Evangelicals?

Is Mermaids backpedaling? I still remember that Barbie/G.I Joe scale... by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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The whole "what a kid wants to wear gives clues about gender (and therefore sex)" thing is just completely crazy and I'm glad that they're having to retract it now... and that they can't actually effectively retract it since people have archives of their earlier statements.

When I was a very young child, I believed wholeheartedly that fluffy cats were girl cats and short-haired cats were boy cats. I insisted this to adults. They, being sane people, just kindly and repeatedly explained to me that I was mistaken and that sex of the cat is defined by other biological features. They pointed out that cats are either boy cats or girl cats and that shaving a girl cat wouldn't make her a boy cat, right? So it didn't have anything to do with fluffiness.

This "huge lesbian" got matched to a horrified real lesbian by jet199 in itsafetish

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You have to chase him

I'm starting to hate the word "shy." Nowadays it doesn't seem to actually mean someone is shy. It means someone has abysmal social skills and they want you to think it's adorable.

And I never heard anyone describe a full grown adult as shy before the last few years. It was something people said about kids who don't like to interact with new people, or about their cats. "Shy" adults were called reserved or quiet.

TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I agree. The majority of the TRA supporters don't even know that so many TRAs are claiming that transwomen are female or transmen are male. They genuinely don't know about the outlandish claims.

Detrans female— Is there space for me here? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I bought it yesterday and am about halfway through. It's very good. I don't know what it's like to be OP and so I can't say how compassionate OP would find the book to be, but from my limited POV it seems pretty compassionate. I'm sure many trans people would, if they bothered to read the book, call it "concern trolling" but it seems to come from a place of genuine concern. It revolves around interviews with many people with all sorts of POVs as well as including a lot of clear facts and research.

Perhaps OP would find it validating if she read it.

Edit: Though it might also be a downer for OP right now. Even the title sounds depressing. So on the one hand, I think it would validate OP a lot in how this happened to OP. On the other hand, OP might find it's better to wait before picking up that book since right now OP probably doesn't need to focus on worries like, "What if everything is just unfixably ruined now?" (OP: everything is not unfixably ruined now; you'll be okay and you'll have support. Even if some people are not supportive, other people will be.)

TIF Finds The Worst Thing About Parents' Alzheimer's Disease Is The Affront & "Threat" It Poses to "His" Opposite-Sex Identity by MarkTwainiac in GenderCritical

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And, even as she focuses on herself, she's focused on the wrong thing (even for a self-centered person). Her worry, as related to herself, should be about her own likely genetic predisposition towards Alzheimer's.

What r/egg_irl and related subreddits did to me as a young person with mental health issues. by LoganBlade in GenderCritical

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It's just becoming easier and easier. A friend of mine didn't want to be objectified by men anymore. She looked up "trans-friendly" GPs and was prescribed testosterone at her first appointment simply because she said, "I'd be happier if I transitioned."

This "huge lesbian" got matched to a horrified real lesbian by jet199 in itsafetish

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His goals...

If a real woman listed her only goals as, "Get fake tits and have a particular sexual orientation," it would indicate some issues (not that I can imagine a real woman listing those as her goals on a dating profile). And this isn't even a woman.

Do most TIFs detransition? by parapluie in GenderCritical

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I think most do, but considering the context - that relative did it before it was cool and stuck with it for decades - I think this is genuinely the life your relative wants, prefers, and likes. It's long, long past the time of hoping this might be a phase. You should assume this is who your relative is going to be for the rest of their life because they like the life they've chosen.

This post has made me consider two conflicting values:

  • The "females are female, and that's the actual definition of a woman" value

  • The "Jesus Christ, just let it go, your family member isn't going through a twenty-year phase no matter how much you dislike it and it's not your business anyway" value

Just decide whether you can accept that your relative is genuinely happy living the life they have chosen. If you can't, fine, don't deal with it - don't interact. But if you want to interact, you've got to accept it.

Freedom for me but not for thee by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Yes. This is not, without further context, hypocritical. "I wouldn't want to date somebody like me," isn't hypocritical. "I wouldn't want to date somebody like me, but other people should," is hypocritical.

But, like, good luck to them.

Agreed.

TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men by weirdthorn in GenderCritical

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I agree.

I finished reading Shrier's book. It was so appalling. I had no idea how much trans stuff many kids are being fed even in elementary school or that so many colleges will prescribe testosterone at someone's first "therapy" appointment.

It caused me to ask my daughter if she'd been exposed to the stuff mentioned in the book and she told me she'd been exposed to ALL of it. She said that about a quarter of her girl friends had "come out" as trans at some point and then taken it back a few months later. I was relieved to discover she had a sane view of it though. We had a really good, nuanced discussion.

TRAs know Rowling has researched both sides extensively and wonder why she is still gender critical by RoundFrog in GenderCritical

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The only other time in my life, before these last few years, when anyone told me not to read something because it might be convincing (I've seen a few people say that about JKR's stuff - "She makes it sound reasonable BUT IT'S NOT so don't read it") was when I was a kid and a fundamentalist Christian relative told me never to read any non-Christian literature since non-Christian literature might convince me.

Would you guys vote for... Trump? by joy1090 in LGBDropTheT

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No. His behaviors have inflicted a 200k+ death toll in the course of months, and I don't trust him with the nuclear codes. There are things (many things) that matter more than what TRAs are up to.

Dear cis people, you need to do all these things to be a proper ally! by RedditHatesLesbians in LGBDropTheT

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If more "cis" people did what that post advocates, we'd have a lot more "TERF"s. The only reason we have so many people saying, "Trans women are women," is because they haven't "educated" themselves.

Sofie Hagen, a Danish comedian who advocates for fat acceptance and women, now identifies as Non-Binary or "trans" as she says. by Jekawi in GenderCritical

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Yes, this is not surprising.

I've noticed that people with the more extreme ideologies in the fat acceptance movement (ideologies that include things like, "Being obese can be healthy,") have had less to say now that Covid has made it unambiguously clear that obesity is a pre-existing condition. I doubt anybody ever actually believed that rhetoric in the first place, but it sounds more absurd than ever now.

Since, "Fat can be healthy," now goes over like a lead balloon, people who focused on that message have to choose something else to make them seem oppressed.

I hate how the trans community has claimed Mulan by Beth-BR in GenderCritical

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I was raised Catholic. Joan was my confirmation name, and I wasn't the only one.

(For non-Catholics: when you are deemed old enough to fully accept the church's teachings, you go through a confirmation ceremony to symbolize your transition into that stage. In many forms of Catholicism, you choose a new "religious" name. It isn't something people will actually call you, but it symbolizes how you define your relation to the religion as you move forward in life.)

Why can’t my famous gender non-conforming friends get laid? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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It's also very creepy how the article implies that being "famous" means people should want to put out for you.

I peaked after dating a trans girl and need advice on how to leave by lunemoonjune in GenderCritical

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If she hates sex with this person but forced herself anyway, that's still not bisexual. She's clearly got some problems that prevented her from leaving the situation earlier, but I think a lot of women have forced themselves to have sex they didn't want, and it's wrong to suggest that having sex you don't want defines who you are.

But what can we do? Activist distribute copies of Shrier's book to government officials and kill trans bill dead. (Likely conservative source) by jet199 in GenderCritical

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Wow. It seems like the book is already making a difference.

As to whether a news source is conservative, I don't care. The left has gone mad on this issue. Sometimes "the other side" is sane in ways that "my side" is not.

If any TRA decides to physically harm JK Rowling or worse, they will effectively end their own movement. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Most people are completely unaware of this nonsense in the first place, so they'd be shocked to learn about it in connection with a horrific news story. They still think TRAs just want to be safe in bathrooms or something.

With that said, it seems unlikely that JKR doesn't have significant personal security, so I hope AND expect she'll stay safe.

Can you answer my 3 questions and convince me of GC please? by Amelia in GenderCritical

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There are tons of potential answers to all your questions, so I'll give the first ones that have risen to the top of my head while reading your post. Some answers will be in the form of analogies, or questions which I believe you will be able to answer for yourself.

Question 1# If female is something that makes eggs and male is something that makes sperm, then are kids sexless? A newborn can not produce sperm. If pre-pubescent kids are not sexless, can you tell me why?

If an apple tree is a tree that produces apples and an orange tree is a tree that produces oranges, then why are apple seeds of the genus malus and orange seeds of the genus citrus? How can a seed be an apple seed or an orange seed if it's not growing apples or oranges?

Question 2# Why are organs like penis, testes, etc male organs and why are organs like vagina, clitoris, uterus, ovaries, etc female organs? What I mean is, why can't organs like penis, testes, etc be female and why can't organs like vagina, clitoris, uterus, ovaries, etc be male? What are the reasons?

Reframe this in terms of non-human animals. Would you say a dog has a female penis or a male vagina? These categories (female and male) exist in order to describe an observed phenomenon in the physical world. The phenomenon goes as follows: lifeforms that engage in sexual reproduction tend to have two sexes (there are some wacky exceptions and complications, but they do not apply to humans because those organisms aren't similar to humans in any way except some shared DNA from back when all our ancestors were microscopic floaters in the sea), as we see with dogs, mice, a variety of plants, bees, and so forth. Female and male describe these categories even far outside the realm of gender. A snake cannot be a man or a woman, but a snake can be male or female.

These categories do not exist subjectively because observable physical processes and biological traits like DNA are not subjective.

More to the point, what words are we supposed to use to describe these observable physical processes and biological traits and patterns? If we don't see vaginas as a female sex organ, are we supposed to then claim dogs with vaginas aren't female? It leads us down a crazy path, a path in which words don't mean anything and therefore information cannot be conveyed clearly. The entire point of words and categories is to convey meaning.

Question 3# What harms do gender and non-binary cause? If gender is a social construct, why should it be abolished when other social constructs like money are not abolished? And lastly, why is being non-binary harmful?

I think the most important thing here is that many trans activists started out by claiming they were separating the notion of gender from the physical reality of sex. That didn't seem so threatening and, in itself, might not be. But now many of them are claiming that gender and sex are the same thing (as you know, based on your questions about why penises can't be female).

This has a whole host of horrible potential consequences.

I won't go into them all, but let's just pick one. Females and males often have different medical reactions to various medications and medical treatments. Females and males also present with different symptoms of the same illnesses. This has been horrible for females, because most medical studies assumed men were the default and studied males. This is why, as just one example, it's taken so goddamn long for people to realize that the female symptoms of a heart attack are very often different from the male symptoms.

If we decide to legally enshrine the notion that a penis, testes, prostate, and entire male body can actually be a female body, how the hell are we supposed to collect data on the real, observable, and life-or-death differences between male and female bodies? If we have to claim that bodies are only as male or female as the claims of the minds that inhabit them, it is verboten and, in fact, not even practically possible to study the different needs of those different sorts of bodies. And people die.

I'm sure some people would call that argument a slippery slope argument, but the entire TRA movement has been careening down a slippery slope for years so it's reasonable to assume they'll continue.

TRA's Continuating bridage of askgaybros by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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This woman, the OP, is so bad at pretending to be a natal male.

Men of colour oppress through force. White men oppress through the mind. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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You seem to be using your disdain for men to excuse your hatred of various other groups. Your most recent post before this one implied that you think Asians are viruses and Native Americans are savages.

Don't hide your racism behind a dislike of men.

And yeah, black people (you say you are black) can be racists. Internalized racism is a thing. Same as internalized misogyny or internalized homophobia.

You may be black, but you sound like a neo-nazi. What's next - Jews are money-grubbing rats because you dislike men?

Neo-nazis write extensively about how Jews are dangerous and despicable because they think Jews have a higher native intelligence than standard white people. You know what that means? It means, "We're stupid and they're smarter so they're evil since people who are smarter are dangerous." Stop with that shit.

When you get into a rant about how logic is white male supremacy, you sound just like those "queer" people who say math needs to be more "queer." It's insanity. Logic and math are formal systems for understanding things better. Rejecting them as sexism is undermining women and is horrifically sexist. You're saying we women are too damn stupid to delve into understanding the world around us.

That, if we utilize these tools for usefully interpreting the world, we are betraying ourselves.

Do you really think men invented logic and, as an extension of that, math? Because I'm pretty sure we'd be further along the path of logic and math if women had been allowed to publicly engage in them, and that many men who are recorded in history as having furthered those endeavors were helped a lot by the observations of women in their lives.

I am not a simpering little idiot placating men just because I have a talent for formal logic and advanced mathematics. Women seeming to be worse at those things is purely a product of us not being allowed to engage in them for much of history, and the sexism that currently tells girls they'll be bad at these beautiful human endeavors.

You clearly have not even the faintest clue of how truly beautiful math - a system of logic which allows for creativity, and in fact insists on it once you've gotten past algorithms - can be. If you are gifted at it, it is like hearing the song of the universe.

Should music be thrown aside because the famous musicians have historically been men? Art? Everything that makes us human should be shat upon just because men stole the limelight from women when we were as good at is as they are and they forced us to pretend we weren't also the sources of such beautiful things?

You're saying we're too fucking stupid to be mathematicians or scientists.

How dare you.

Punch gay men if they reject you by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

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And I'm sure that, in their fantasy, the gay guy who falls in love with them will be forever penitent (and therefore in a lower position of power in the relationship) about not having instantly recognized them as the most desirable and legitimate "man" on the planet.

Detransitioners, society and gender non-conformity by aqrylix in GenderCritical

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It's a complex issue. I would feel gross if I exhibited certain common biological traits of men. I mean, not disgusted in the sense of feeling like I was a bad or gross person, but I'd be grossed out. If someone forced me to take male hormones, I would absolutely be horrified by the changes it would cause in my body, and no amount of, "It's okay to be a masculine woman," would comfort me.

So I can see how a detransitioner, upon peaking, would also feel gross about certain ways they'd changed their bodies.

I hate how the trans community has claimed Mulan by Beth-BR in GenderCritical

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Me too.

TRAs: If a woman is strong, she's a man.

TRAs: If a woman ever pretended to be man, it surely couldn't have been because that was what she had to do in order to accomplish her goals.

They don't see that this sort of thing wasn't about "transmen." It was about females being so very oppressed that the only way they'd be allowed to do things they wanted to do was by hiding what they were. It wasn't, "I'm a man in a woman's body." It was, "I'm a woman in a man's world so, unfortunately, I have to pretend to be one of them if I want to get shit done."

The song, "I'll make a man out of you," was meant to be ironic. The woman was NOT a man; she was better than the men.

Fujoshi girl wonders why gay sex party isn't as inclusive as her college "queer" group. by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

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Yeah. If she peaks, this is going to be one of those embarrassing memories that makes you wish there was a witness protection program for the sake of protecting embarrassed people from anyone who ever knew them in the past.

(Ranty) DAE feel almost-revulsion any time they hear the word "Privilege" anymore? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Being less oppressed is not the same as privilege.

That's a good way of putting it.

The word privilege also often draws focus in the wrong direction.

Wrong question: Who is privileged and how, ethically, should they respond to that?

Right question: Who is oppressing others, and what shall we do to stop them?

Straight guys these days by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Strangely, I think it's legit. Something about it just reminds me of certain self-deluded people I've known IRL. His basic message keeps being, "No, you don't understand," with ever more frustrated explanations that go on random tangents.

I think he's being completely sincere.

If he were a MtF larping, he'd be more repetitive and wouldn't seem to be listening to what is being said to him. But he is listening carefully here and getting so wrapped up in disagreeing that he seems to have pretty much forgotten his entire reason for posting there.

More notably, he seems neither enraged nor like he's having fun. He just seems frustrated and bothered and distracted about the fact that, from his POV, nobody is listening to what he thinks matters.

Edit:

Oh! Most important of all!

We see exactly why he hates the fact that he's either gay or bi. He's conservative as fuck about the purpose of relationships!

What Wikipedia says about overwhelming consensus on trans women... by 68plus57 in LGBDropTheT

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I don't understand what words they want us to use. If I laid a removed uterus on a table in front of them and asked, "What word should I use to describe this organ?" what would they say? It's crazy that organs can't have names and that people without organs can claim they have the organs. THEY'RE ORGANS. Organs aren't ideological concepts or political opinions. They're organs.

At least we still can choose our own friends and lovers irl they can’t take that away from us.

True.

Also, story time: my awesome friend was called transphobic by a mtf person she didn't want to date. It's true that my friend doesn't want to date males, but she chose not to focus on that, instead focusing on the other issues. She responded with, "Don't worry - it's not about transphobia. I hate your personality."

That didn't go down well, but fortunately "personality-phobic" isn't a thing yet.

I peaked after dating a trans girl and need advice on how to leave by lunemoonjune in GenderCritical

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Somebody isn't bisexual just because they force themselves to have sex they hate. Gay and lesbian history is full of gay people forcing themselves to have sex they didn't want. OP clearly does not desire this person or enjoy the sex, to the point where OP is revolted. "I'm completely revolted by sleeping with one sex," is the opposite of bisexual.

Convicted murderer calls himself a 'TERF hunter' by tarun in GenderCritical

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We as a society are at a point where I think you need to mention what he did to the dog first, or maybe only mention what he did to the dog, if you want certain groups of people to admit that this person is a monster.

TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men by weirdthorn in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're right. Even her gut was telling her not to go but her "friend" coaxed her into it by repeatedly insisting she'd fit in and people there would be attracted to her.

I think the friend is probably a bit of a sadist, but maybe this could be a wakeup call for her. Or maybe I'm just too much of an optimist.

I hate how the trans community has claimed Mulan by Beth-BR in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, and the entire theme of the movie is how she's worried they'll find out who she TRULY is (a woman) and also about the unusual strengths granted to her by being a woman (like figuring out clever ways to match men in battle).

Has anyone ever seen a TW in a mom group? by Tovasshi in GenderCritical

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Now that I think of it, I can't remember any either. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. I do recall some transmen in various parenting groups I've been in. I've also seen several dads in online parenting groups. I can't specifically remember any transwomen/TiMs though.

Difference between LGB and TQ: gay people just want to be able to exist in private, TQ wants to be accommodated and centred at all times and for everyone to tiptoe around them. by RedditHatesLesbians in GenderCritical

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to not use any gendered language

So how does this work with two trans people, one who insists that no gendered language be used and the other who insists on being called their preferred gender pronouns? Which one gets to win and make the other person do what they want?

Yes, Mr. CritFacts the Spoopy Ghost Enby, telling lesbians to 'maybe try' (implying you wish for them to try) 'girldick' is an attempt to push corrective rape upon them. What a scumbag you are. by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

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I think adults need to play more. Not like sexual play - I mean actual play. Swinging on a swing at a playground is fucking fun! Climbing trees is fun! Pretend is fun! Being unserious and going wild with imagination in a totally unconstrained way is really fun.

I don't find dressing up as an animal to be appealing in any way, but I can see how people might find it fun.

But why does it always have to be about sex? Why do adults tend to play only if sex is involved? (Aside from board games I guess.)

Seriously, what's up with that? I genuinely want to know.

Sex is great. But I don't understand why sex should be the only way to play and why this sexual play should be a public identity rather than a personal activity.

Sexual activities shouldn't be anybody's identity.

My report from London today by CastleHoward in GenderCritical

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Probably they mostly passed as women in every day life but not in this setting. It was a stark difference and the crowd gave lots of space.

It must have been rough for them to realize they don't actually pass. They probably thought they could show up in complete stealth mode. It's important to get reality checks though.

Just moved to a college campus— there are literally more “queer” and trans students than there are gay students. by nbailey73 in LGBDropTheT

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Not in the current climate.

"It's not a gay club because it won't allow gay transmen," would be interpreted similarly to, "It's not a gay club because it won't allow gay black or Jewish men."

In other words, in the current climate, people wouldn't interpret it as disallowing a gay club; they'd interpret as disallowing a Nazi club that happens to be run by a gay guy.

They just keep getting more and more honest. by AntiPorn in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like a lot of libfems fail to flip it around. We don't actually have to start with, "Are any transwomen faking it?" Instead we can start with, "Do predators lie?"

Do predators lie about things to get to victims?

Yes.

Do predators make up all sorts of crazy excuses when they try to harm others?

Yes.

Would predators lie about almost anything to get victims?

Yes.

Do predators reach for the easiest lie?

Yes.

So would a predator ever decide to lie that they're a woman to find victims?

"You're a TERF."

This reasoning does not in any way suggest that all TiMs are predators. It doesn't even suggest that many of them are. It says nothing about percentages.

All it suggests is that predators make things up to get to victims, and no lie is too much for them.

TiM looks up child porn winner while in hospital. I bet they were put on a female ward. Will probably be down in three stats as a female child abuser by jet199 in GenderCritical

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From the TiM's lawyer:

her client had tried to access mental health support and had been referred to an emotional regulation group.

... emotional regulation groups are mental health support.

Are you one of thooooseeeee people?? by fuckupaddams in GenderCritical

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And they've been an astoundingly effective advertising team for Irreversible Damage.

WoLF Releases Groundbreaking Poll Results: Gender Identity Policies Flop with CA and ID Voters by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Good. I'm enjoying seeing posts with evidence that, as we suspect, most people are sane and know this is nonsense. Which is why so much trans activism has been done under the radar.

PA health director in charge of coronavirus: It's about educating the public on transgender by WrongToy in GenderCritical

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Yet more, "Why don't you liiiiiiiiiike me, it's so UNFAIR," from a public servant who's supposed to be talking about something else.

The one reason we all can't speak our minds is cancel culture. Cancel culture was created by so-called progressive democrats. I've only ever voted Democrat in my life, but I just can't support that anymore. Don't downvote till you've read please. by 100_percent_truth in GenderCritical

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I think Biden would mostly stay out of this BS. Or at least I hope. All the "woke" people I know hate him, especially TRA's.

It pained me when Elizabeth Warren was trying to be woke by coddling people about pronouns at some point... I don't think Biden would bother with that.

Any moderate liberal is an evil fascist to these people. They don't see in shades of gray.

Commenters wonder, "Are TERFs closeted non-binary?" by anxietyaccount8 in GenderCritical

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I see what a few of them are getting at though. I think what they're not realizing is that most cis people would be (by their standards) agender/nonbinary (or whatever they want to call it) "on the inside." It's one reason why pretty much everyone wonders, "But what do you mean you didn't feel like a man/woman, and instead felt like the opposite?" when they first learn about trans stuff. It almost seems (to me) like being "cis" often = being mystified by the idea of feeling some sort of innate gendery-ness.

Wishing Trump would die of COVID on social media not allowed, but death threats against JKR are fair game by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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It's not fair. Nobody should ever get death threats, and death threats should never be allowed.

But it's kind of understandable that, if Twitter wants to make an exception about who a person is allowed to wish death upon, the exception would be the President of the United States. For all we know, the Secret Service told Twitter to disallow such Tweets.

And frankly it's for the best, even for the death-wishers: do they really want a visit from the Secret Service? Really?

POV: you're teaching your boyfriend the dangers of gender ideology by poisona7 in GenderCritical

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Unfortunately, in person I have generally found it easier to discuss these things with men (the ones who don't claim they're women). It seems that most men are more willing (or less afraid) to go, "Of course that dude in a skirt isn't a woman. He said what? He said that penises can be female? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard."

Most women also understand that these TiMs are not women, but I guess many of us are just too frightened to say it out loud or too worried about seeming "insensitive."

Girly girls have such big persecution complexes by eddyelric in GenderCritical

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It really is. If we have to argue about whether a woman in a skirt is a bad feminist, let's do it later. Right now we need strength in numbers to fight for our most basic rights. To be frank, our enemies have always been fantastic at allowing us to divide ourselves so that they can then swoop in and conquer. We shouldn't let ourselves do that work for them.

And as long as a dude is "sOoO brave" for wearing a skirt, I'm sure as fuck not going to tell an actual woman that she's a coward for wearing one. I don't want to go yet further into a topsy turvy world there are yet MORE things that are only okay if men do them.

With that said, the FDS sub does have a lot of questionable ideas about performing gender. But I'm not gonna kick them out of whatever club I'm in as long as they understand that biological sex is real, that women need a wide variety of urgent rights to be respected and re-gained, that porn is revolting and degrading, etc.

"I don't trust cis people" by RedditHatesLesbians in GenderCritical

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Great. And the sentiment goes both ways from me. Glad we've got that sorted.

Women my ass.Willing to bet at least one of the two thugs who attacked senator is TIM by SanityIsGC in GenderCritical

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The person on the left looks "ugly." In other words, not pleasant aesthetically based on most people's standards.

But I'd assume she is a butch woman based on that photo. Maybe she's a TIM but I couldn't say that based on the photo.

Sometimes women are crazy horrid assholes, too. This post comes across as, "That lady on the left is fugly and also women don't do bad stuff amirite?"

How do you feel about the word "privilege"? by moody_ape in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I generally dislike it.

I think its common usage is more useful than its academic usage.

Common use: A bonus, whether earned or not. This might apply to a child born into a rich family or the privilege of being allowed to drive your mom's car.

Academic use: being treated with the dignity all humans deserve by merit of being human, while other people are deprived of that.

I think it obscures the real issue. A white lady isn't privileged when cops don't harass her; she's experiencing the default treatment we all deserve. But if we navel-gaze about why she gets that treatment, we're not focusing on what we should actually be doing: making sure other people are not denied the default decency she receives.

It also doesn't leave people with any guidance about what to do. Meditating upon one's privilege 24/7 for a year is worthless when compared to even simple stuff like donating ten bucks to an organization that covers bail for non-violent offenses or donating to a women's shelter.

Is the trans community (and allies) detransphobic ? by Wrencer in GenderCritical

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According to the "egg" community, it seems like every single human is trans. I mean, their egg shit is flimsy as hell. I like explosions in movies and hate women's pants because the pockets aren't big enough. Based on that alone they'd probably say I should be a trans man.

The funny thing is that if we were all as trans as they think everyone is (considering their standards for "eggs" = no standards), they wouldn't be special anymore. Do they really not understand that literally EVERYONE is an egg by their standards? Or do they genuinely believe that the stuff they see as egg-ish is rare and special?

JK Rowling just spoke again. She's fighting back by Lilith_Fair in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

most people, particularly liberals are only going along with this charade because they have some misconception about what it's really about

Absolutely.

I think most people do actually know it's messed up. If you get someone one-on-one to talk about it, almost all of them (even in liberal circles) will admit that they don't believe a guy who loves his beard and says he's got no dysphoria is a woman. Most people do have sympathy for trans people who physically transition because that's the life they want and then they leave everyone else alone. I also have sympathy for that predicament.

I used to think, "Well yeah, it makes sense that someone who looks just like a woman would want to be in the women's restroom. It would be bizarre for them to be in the men's restroom and they wouldn't even be bothering anyone in the women's restroom if they really look like a woman. Who would even know the difference?"

But then I realized what's actually going on.

And I also realized that these "I want to be in women's spaces" types really do need it to be WOMEN'S spaces. They would not at all be content even if every location had a third, sex-neutral restroom. I'd be perfectly fine with it if a location had a women's restroom, a men's restroom, and then a sex-neutral restroom. Hell, I'd use the sex-neutral bathroom when the line for the women's restroom was too long (which it often is). But no. They want the WOMEN'S restroom. I also don't see any issue with single-occupant restrooms being sex-neutral since there's only one person in them at a time. But that would not suffice for them either.

Ugh.

Upset with the anarchist subreddit: the shitty title said "Bye T*rfs" by [deleted] in itsafetish

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There are people who genuinely hate authoritarians, and then there are people who hate authoritarians because they're jealous.

Men's Health mag vs Joe Rogan and women by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

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"Lived experience" is now used as a term for "personal interpretations or claims motivated by what I want from you."

I believe it was originally supposed to mean what it literally sounds like: the experiences one has lived through. Like if a woman says she's constantly groped at parties and a man says, "I've never seen that," he should shut up because she's saying what she literally experienced.

But now it seems to be used differently. "It is my lived experience that I am a panda," = "I desperately wish I were a panda, and I experience that desperate wishing, so I am a panda and you're a bigot if you argue."

It's kind of like the word "valid." Originally, "Your feelings are valid," just meant that feelings can't be "wrong." Feelings are just feelings and can't be "false" because emotions exist outside of the false vs. factually accurate spectrum.

But then, "Your emotions are valid," changed into, "Your emotions are an accurate factual reflection of what is factually and objectively correct in the world around you. If you feel a thing, the accompanying thoughts are surely also valid and therefore factually true."

This should be obvious nonsense (and the entire psychiatric field of CBT, which is an excellently effective form of therapy for many issues, is based on the fact that it's nonsense).

Feelings and thoughts aren't the same thing, and while feelings are "valid" (ie cannot be incorrect since they're just an emotional state), thoughts can absolutely be invalid.

The, "Everything you feel is valid and therefore your resulting thoughts are factually accurate," thing is horrifyingly toxic. I can come up with an example of how badly this idea can work out in the real world right now:

Let's say I'm a parent and my baby is screaming. I feel bad and sad and ashamed and I'm angry. I want to lash out.

In response to that feeling, I am reminded of how I felt when my parent screamed abuse at me.

I have the same feelings I had when my parent abused me. It makes me think of my baby in terms of my abusive parent.

Feelings are valid and therefore the resulting thoughts are valid. Therefore, my baby is abusing me.

Time to treat my baby like an abuser deserves to be treated! It's self-defense!

Phrases and concepts that were born of a desire to give words to what victims of abuse experienced are constantly co-opted by abusers and/or the insecure mentally disturbed. All the time.

So now we have a bunch of people saying you're "enacting violence" if you don't say their self-ID (the thought that happens in reaction to their feeling) is factually valid.

"I'm a woman with a girldick! I'm valid!"

Transgender used to be all about gender dysphoria, now it follows a religion-like dogma. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Good points. And I hate to say anything to praise them, but even people at the Westboro church are happy to talk to their enemies like normal people. Most people don't know this, but they let journalists and religious studies professors come around to hang out and talk and debate and interview them, and they're polite during these interactions. It's part of why their kids keep leaving the church: their kids are allowed to see these other points of view.

There are some "enemies" with whom they have had respectful relationships for years and are apparently actually fond of.

Teaching women to be afraid hurts women by squintypreyeyes in GenderCritical

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I think this is a good point. I've thought a lot about it because I'm the type to go on a walk at 2AM to go get some energy drinks. I decided I am willing to put up with that risk profile. So far, I've been touched inappropriately zero times on those walks. I can't even count how many times I've been touched inappropriately by "friends" at gatherings.

I understand why some women wouldn't be comfortable with that risk profile though. A groper at a party is less likely to put you in mortal danger than a stranger who stalks you in the middle of the night. So even though the former is waaaay more statistically common, the latter has worse outcomes when it does happen.

r/actuallesbians are super paranoid right now about making sure "No terfs get in here." It's kind of funny by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Lmao. I wondered this too. All we have to do is claim we're there and they'll go crazy looking for us. I mean, they're already doing that, but still.

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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They're worse than the worst men.

It was so weird to me when I realized that these TiMs are displaying worse behavior than the vast majority of men I've encountered. Even those RedPill jerks don't try to become moderators of women's health subs or wave their penises in little girls' faces in changing rooms. I think maybe it's because incels (the group of men I've encountered who treat women worst of all) and TiMs seem to be strongly overlapping groups.

Operational security: don’t get doxxed. by anonymale in GenderCritical

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Thanks.

This is really true.

One example: depending on how dedicated the doxxer is, even talking about the weather where you live too often isn't safe because it eliminates all areas where the weather didn't match what you described on a given day.

By the way, today where I live it's raining chocolate sprinkles and the temperature is negative one billion degrees Kelvin. Humidity is the square root of two.

Note the little girl inside the grown man by jet199 in itsafetish

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I'm pretty sure the "clovergender" thing specifically was a prank.

Positioning marriage as a desire for women rather than a necessity for men was a brilliant move by the patriarchy by WhyDoesHeDoThat in GenderCritical

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Yeah, and when it comes to modern marriage, it's like straight people are forgetting (or never paid attention to) the anguish that so often resulted from same-sex marriage being illegal. I think a lot of people secretly just don't want to "have to" be there or make hard decisions if their partner is dying in the hospital, so they claim marriage is just a piece of paper instead of being honest: "I don't want us to be an actual family."

Day 305528257151 of the brigade of r/askgaybros. by artetolife in LGBDropTheT

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subreddits that aren't meant for them

That's the problem right there. Apparently all subreddits should be meant for them.

WARNING ANIMAL CRUELTY. Sydney TIM Charged With Torturing & Killing A 13 Y.O. Dog. by Doobeedoo661 in GenderCritical

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This is about the legal defense: "Because this person is transitioning, the court should give a lighter sentence," seems to be implied.

"Sexuality is fluid" - the root of all evil by ThrowMeAway2879 in LGBDropTheT

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I think that, in addition to the Kinsey type scale of attraction to one sex or the other, there must also be a "disgust scale."

For instance, I don't think someone is necessarily bisexual if they didn't feel disgust when performing compulsory heterosexuality. If they felt neither disgust nor attraction, I think it is fair to say they are still gay.

A lot of heterosexual women try kissing a woman and discover that they are definitely straight because it does nothing for them. "It was like kissing a pillow. Just... nothing. Nada." No disgust but also no enjoyment of the act.

I believe it can work the same for some homosexual people. A woman sleeps with a man and feels nada, nothing, not even disgust, as though it's just a task like folding laundry; she sleeps with a woman and loves it.

It's fair to call her a lesbian.

Martina Navratilova ‘signs letter supporting ban on transgender female athletes’ by Lingenfelter in GenderCritical

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I think it's good to point this out every time the myth comes up, even if it's not fully on topic. It's important for people to know that this is a myth.

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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And given that most people with BPD and HPD are women

...and that a whole lot of them got that way because of the trauma of sexual abuse in childhood...

that would mean most of those predators would be females. That's not right at all.

Agreed.

I'm glad you took a moment to point this out.

they banned my sub too. r/PCOSwomen. Literally 2 posts and 4 members. by Coconaut in GenderCritical

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there's something going on at reddit HQ. They are complicit in cruel and destructive actions. it's not just the AHS woke folks throwing fits. there must be people high up at reddit who are pushing the same agenda.

At this point I'm just assuming there must be at least one TiM near the top of Reddit who's driving this.

My TRA friend: "JK Rowling's speech is on the same spectrum as the murder of Transwomen" by Vari4 in GenderCritical

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Do you think that the groups "people who think speech is violence" vs. "people who know speech is not violence" correspond (in the same order) to "people who have not been subjected to physical violence" vs. "people who have been subjected to physical violence"?

I find it difficult to imagine that someone who's been punched in the face could believe that speech is equivalent to that.

Of course, there are grey areas, like literal incitement to violence. But they're the ones who engage in that, what with all the encouragement to punch or shoot women who disagree with them.

Do you think a real same-sex dating app could be used safely? by HelloMomo in LGBDropTheT

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I'm confident that sneaky non-trans TRAs would join in order to dox "TERFs" to earn points with trans people.

Black mirror's "striking vipers" episode perpetuates a theory that may be very real. by Mencantbewomen in GenderCritical

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I think it's a matter of interpretation.

A man who is loving and supportive of his female romantic partner would not see himself as being henpecked. He would just (accurately) see himself as being in a loving relationship.

His buddies, on the other hand, might disagree and inaccurately claim he is henpecked just because they're too immature to fathom that a man might genuinely want to put a woman first.

Their logic is basically...

  1. No man would want to put his romantic relationship with a woman first.

  2. My friend, a man, is putting his romantic relationship with a woman first.

  3. If no men want to put their romantic relationships with women first, my friend can't want to do it.

  4. But he is.

  5. So someone must be tricking or coercing him to do it against his will.

  6. He is henpecked.

This is the top upvoted post on r/MtF in the past week. Over 1000 people thought this was completely normal behaviour. Not a fetish at all... by DoneWithReddit in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think we should say that all girls feel shame when they develop breasts. Developing breasts is the start of being subjected to the male gaze for many girls, and that's upsetting and can make a girl feel ashamed, but a lot of adolescent girls feel good when they first start developing breasts. They feel more grownup and beautiful.

I know I did. When I started to develop breasts, I felt beautiful. I looked more like my mother, who I thought was very beautiful.

The upsetting feelings came later based on how others treated me, and even how others talked about their own breasts. My mother talked about her breasts (and by extension, all breasts) the way you describe in your comment and it was deeply confusing and disturbing to me as a young girl. Feeling happy about my breasts but being told girls and women are ashamed of their breasts was not good for me.

"Is it okay for me to be a lesbian and not like penises" (Actuallesbians) by oofreesouloo in LGBDropTheT

[–]Feather 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I looked at his profile. He clearly puts a lot of effort into spelling things as badly as possible. Clearly he thinks it's "girly" to write like a moron.

Their new target: askgaybros by motss-pb in LGBDropTheT

[–]Feather 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They think that if they insult, threaten, and drive away everyone who doesn't toe the line, they'll be left on top. They think they're climbing over the rest of us to reach glorious heights.

In reality, if they insult, threaten, and drive away everyone who doesn't toe the line... they aren't gonna win the "lonely little club of assholes" vs. "everyone else" fight.

Yes, Mr. CritFacts the Spoopy Ghost Enby, telling lesbians to 'maybe try' (implying you wish for them to try) 'girldick' is an attempt to push corrective rape upon them. What a scumbag you are. by Smolders1 in LGBDropTheT

[–]Feather 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right. And that reminds me of a quote by C.S. Lewis:

When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

Parent in /r/parenting is just so proud of 6yo for coming out as trans. Many of the comments are surprisingly sane. by Feather in GenderCritical

[–]Feather[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. A lot of those deleted comments were still up when I posted the link.

From straight to lesbian- the road less traveled by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

[–]Feather 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Going down on a woman would probably "trigger" his "dysphoria."

[Currently "FtM"] You guys are right by please_help in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree whole-heartedly with the people who advise you to explore, and get treatment for, any possible comorbid psychiatric conditions. (Comorbid conditions are conditions that a person has at the same time as other conditions. The two conditions are present separately but nonetheless interact and exacerbate each other. And sometimes one causes the other.)

Maybe you can't do it now because of your parents, but when you're a bit older you'll be able to.

I don't want to explain why in a publicly available comment, but I'll say this: I despised my breasts so very much that, for about a decade, I fantasized about cutting them off myself. For a decade.

I only became okay with them when I got proper psychiatric treatment. And even then it took a few years of treatment before my breasts and I made peace with each other. (I never even mentioned my breasts to any of my treatment providers, but somehow getting the proper treatment led to me being okay with my breasts.)

If, after getting proper treatment, you still want them gone, more power to you. But don't do it before then.

Sunday Social - open chat! by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Feather 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I started reading "Too Much and Never Enough" by Trump's niece, Mary L. Trump. She provides a lot of family background about what she believes formed him into the man he is today.

Among many other interesting things, I learned that he's still unhappy when anyone reminds him of his older brother dumping mashed potatoes on his head when he was seven. Apparently he still hasn't gotten over the insult.

His father always said things were "great" and "perfect" even when they were far from it. His dad also mocked Trump's older brother for apologizing or taking the blame for anything, therefore teaching Trump that apologizing and accepting responsibility are pathetic.

Is the trans community (and allies) detransphobic ? by Wrencer in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect the egg meme thing is mostly teenagers convincing other teenagers to be trans, but it's not like adult trans people are discouraging them - the more trans kids, the better (in their minds).

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems we've had different experiences. I shouldn't have generalized to such an extent.

I can at least say that most people with BPD with whom I've interacted in any extended capacity described experiencing CSA (whether they recognized it as that or not). The stats don't back up my anecdotal experience that it is surely most of them, but the stats do back up that it's more common than in the general population:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5248407/#sec1-3title

40% minimum depending on the study.

Of course, CSA is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition to set up a child for developing borderline later. Many people who experienced CSA don't develop borderline, and CSA is also not necessary in order to develop borderline. But one thing I can say for sure is that I've literally never encountered someone with borderline personality disorder who was not abused in some way as a child.

But I think the main risk factor for developing BPD is having a parent with untreated BPD, because of a mix of genetics, the parent modeling BPD coping mechanisms for the child, and the unfortunate fact that BPD coping mechanisms are a fairly rational way for a young person to respond to being owned by someone with untreated BPD. And so the cycle continues...

CSA does seem common in people with NPD, but my completely anecdotal experience is that sexual abuse is more likely to result in BPD than NPD - at least in girls.

Sigh. I admit I am disappointed Ovarit isn't a female only site. I need to come to terms that I had HOPED it would be female only. by missdaisycan in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every online community that stays invite-only too long stays too small and, unfortunately, keeps out most of the people who would actually fit in. It's only a good thing to do if one wants to keep a community very small.

Parent in /r/parenting is just so proud of 6yo for coming out as trans. Many of the comments are surprisingly sane. by Feather in GenderCritical

[–]Feather[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You probably should have let her wear the wrong shoes. Wearing the wrong shoes is uncomfortable. You denied her the minor suffering of wearing wrong shoes.

It's the same thing as why parents should advise kids not to play in the snow in a t-shirt but then let their kids do it anyway if their kids insist; their kids need to learn through literal physical experience that sometimes the results of their choices feel bad.

You make the kid wear a coat and they learn that parents make kids wear coats. You go, "Okay, if you insist on not wearing a coat, go ahead," and they learn that they were wrong to ignore you because they feel horrible and cold. One of the most important aspects of parenting in the younger years is letting them learn that ignoring your advice leads to results that feel bad.

It leads them to trust your judgment later on, since they have an entire library of memories about how it was a mistake to ignore your advice.

Here's why "pansexuality" makes no goddamn sense by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Feather 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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Sunday Social - open chat! by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

[–]Feather 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's worth reading, but I don't find it enjoyable per se. If someone is looking for an entertaining hate-read, this wouldn't be the right book. Looking at how he grew up is just sad. You see this fucked up family dynamic drama with a sociopathic patriarch who ruins everyone around him, and you know how it ends: really badly. You already know that none of his (Fred Trump's) kids will ever reach escape velocity even long after he's dead, if they even survive that long: they're going to stay who he programmed them to be.

Is the trans community (and allies) detransphobic ? by Wrencer in GenderCritical

[–]Feather 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's very weird. It's like a fast-motion real-life example of the slippery slope fallacy actually reflecting reality.

I'm sure there are lots of trans people who think much of what's going on is BS, but they're certainly not the loudest voices and they themselves have to fear for their livelihood and safety if they're open about being "truscum."