Noooo you need to consume Reddit you can't just leave come back noooooo

Extract · 2020-07-20T01:47:38+00:00

Hmm, another account with no comment history going "we need to hide those no-no opinions away".
I wonder what this could be..

I'll just leave this here:

What if I told you, that the last refugee wave was large enough for some propaganda organizations to put this site on their radar?

What if I told you the concern trolls posting those threads/comments are the first wave of shills, whose goal is to slowly corrupt this site the same way most platforms (like many subreddits, in their time) get corrupted? Notice how most of those concern trolls highlight problems that could actually be solved by their own participation - but, that would actually help the site, while their goal is clearly to (slowly) undermine it.

They will also cite the new influx of users as a good thing, and threaten it ends if $demandList isn't met, while in reality much of this activity is artificially created by those shills (not most votes, just the early spike that makes it visible enough for other people to upvote it for the sake of discussion).

This isn't going to stop, by the way - this is only going to get worse the more popular this site gets bigger.

Extract · 2020-06-30T20:29:26+00:00

You are a long way from Reddit, and yet you seem to still believe if you screech "hate speeeeech" and "mihsogakneeeeeee" people are automatically going to take your side here.
This couldn't be farther from the truth.
It's ironic - the same censorship platform that would once have your back in situations like this finally turned on you, and now that you escaped it, you realize there is nothing left to protect the rest of your delusions here in the open.
I suggest you buckle your seat belt, women up, and brace yourself for a few wake-up calls, cause this isn't the sheltered space you left behind.

Extract · 2020-07-19T21:24:09+00:00

Any sub explicitly stating it censors, and removing itself from /s/all, is allowed to do so.

Extract · 2020-07-19T03:31:07+00:00

Thing is, you are not debating - you are saying "people (implying yourself as well) are going to leave unless a specific type of content gets censored (and yes, supression is censorship)".

The other person said what most of us agree with - people who want to leave unless something they dont like is censored (be that you or not) can as well get the fuck out right now and save themselves some time.

If you dislike specific comments in a thread, take the time to call them out (or debank them), or upvote comments doing so.

If you dislike the content of the front page, upvote better posts.

Like it or not, those conspiracy theorists are creating actual content for this site, while all you are doing is bitching about them.
Ironically, the very solution to this would be for you to create and upvote better content.

Extract · 2020-08-03T00:23:37+00:00

Holly hell, that's some heavy shilling. And by a 9-day account, no less.

Here is a very well structured, simple video for the regular reader here, who wants to better understand the the sheer length the media (and shills like the above) have gone to in order to paddle this bullshit.

Extract · 2020-07-02T14:09:01+00:00

Ah, yes, we do indeed need the mechanic that made allows reddit communities to brigade and helps make it the echo chamber it is now.

Extract · 2020-06-30T20:51:34+00:00

Of course. But intentionally bothering people would be coming to her sub telling her this.

By coming to a general sub (like /s/saidit) and sharing her opinion, she exempts herself from the having replies to that opinion counting as "intentionally bothering" (or, as they like to call it on twitter, "harassment").

Extract · 2020-07-25T03:56:11+00:00

I'm not defending some of the blatant antisemitism around here, but...

Why join the site at that point when there are many other social media sites available that don't have this problem?

Because some people are smart enough to realize that those problems would exist in any free-speech board, as long as antisemitism exists?
Those who fail to understand this are free to go back to their safe spaces - oh, wait, many of those who come here do so because they got kicked out of those spaces.

Others come here because, despite having some antisemites and a few total loonies, there is a large rational majority, much bigger than any other place that's free speech (excluding maybe www.gab.com).

Extract · 2020-07-23T01:24:58+00:00

The funny thing is - many, maybe most of the people here (one of the sites who made the honorary list) are not "conservative".
In fact, it'd seem the majority of people here are libertarians, and many are actual liberals (what the word meant before it got hijacked by rabid SJW dogs).
What matters isn't what you are, but what you aren't - if you are not an "ally" of theirs, you are an enemy.

Extract · 2020-06-30T01:15:10+00:00

Better yet, archive (offline) everything you posted before nuking it.

You might sort through those comments/posts and find some nice stuff you might want to repost here - free karma for you, and more content for saidit.

Extract · 2020-07-28T00:43:59+00:00

That explains the mental illness.

Extract · 2020-07-26T21:00:28+00:00

Check out this resource thread on shill tactics and this post becomes much more clear to you.

1) Identify division point (some people are ok with porn, others aren't).

2) Ask an "innocent" question as to the length of the boundaries related to this point ("So no porn allowed? Maybe just a bit? How about tits only?").

3-a) Get sympathetic response, push the boundaries farther, repeat the above (on a seemingly unrelated account) later on.
3-b) Get hostile response - wait a few days, then go cry about "the uncivil community" for defending its rules and their boundaries with passion.

Whether he did it on behalf of others or for his own coomer agenda is a different question, but the fact remains.

Extract · 2020-07-19T14:50:42+00:00

Here's a nice reply from the article you linked last, which applies to pretty much everything you said:

The author confuses a symptom with a cause.

So called Elite schools have Legacy Admissions so that alumni-donors can get their kids in. It is necessary for the school’s pocket book. Thus the root-cause is the “Privilege of Prior Privilege” not any current religious or ethnic bias. And, past conditions were driven by “Privilege of Cash”. Massive “Student Aid” packages are a fairly new phenomenon that has created its own problems.

Correlation != causation.

So far, from what you've written, the only point that can be made is that Jews are good at exploiting corrupt systems (which America has been for looooong before the Jews "took over").

So, any actual points?

Extract · 2020-07-18T19:23:33+00:00

On a slightly related note, it seems after the last ban-wave, quite a few of concern trolling posts like the OP have started appearing around here.

While I'm personally not in favor of the truly moronic anti-semitic comments that appear on some /s/all posts, it's still crucial that the way they're dealt with is not removal, but upvoting comments calling them out instead.

The much more worrying trend is threads like this starting to pop up, especially from new accounts (who claim to be reddit refugees, but cannot be verified).

This is how hostile infiltration of any platform starts - we need to be extremely vigilant, and remind people of this very thing.
So far the users here have been calling out the bullshit - it's important we remember to not relent on this, as the shills sure as hell wont.

Extract · 2020-07-19T14:05:50+00:00

Actual reasons they choose antisemitism, over other made-up problems (such as "bigotry" or "homophobia"):

It's a legit concern for most users here - a good contern-troll needs to offer at least a somewhat real problem, even when jumping to an intentionally bad solution.
It's a division point between most moderate-right/center and some far-right groups, and as such, the propaganda paddlers are hoping to farther divide their opposition.

People like you need to understand that you aren't in war against DA JUICE, but are actually under assault by expert propaganda companies who know their audience to a T.

Extract · 2020-07-02T00:06:41+00:00

Buy having a way better UX, and far (faaaaar) better architecture, allowing it to not only not crush every day but actually withstand DDOS with relative ease?

Edit:
There is a good reason reddit isn't banning ruqqus links, but does so for saidit.

Extract · 2020-08-04T19:06:48+00:00

Wrong.

The Woke Left resembles the old, Christian authoritarian right, rather than "alt-right", which is a dog-whistle for "anyone farther right than Stalin who disagrees with me".

Extract · 2020-07-22T16:23:47+00:00

You should stop treating this as an American issue.

The establishment of the whole west has been trying to hide those opinions - and the whole west has a silent (or less silent, in countries less corrupt than America) majority rising up against them, some countries more successfully than others.

Extract · 2020-07-22T15:29:38+00:00

Posting complaint threads with loaded titles without providing solutions is not contribution.

If you actually want to contribute, feel free to repost news from https://old.reddit.com/r/anime_titties/ (that's an actual world politics sub) onto here, and upvote such content (for example).

Extract · 2020-07-19T03:57:02+00:00

Damn, that really is a relevant username.

I'll share a conspiracy theory of my pwn with you.

What if I told you, that the last refugee wave was large enough for some propoganda organizations to put this site on their radar?

What if I told you the concern trolls posting those threads/comments are the first wave of shills, whose goal is to slowly corrupt this site the same way most platforms (like many subreddits, in their time) get corrupted?
Notice how most of those concern trolls highlight problems that could actually be solved by their own participation - but, that would actually help the site, while their goal is clearly to (slowly) undermine it.

They will also cite the new influx of users as a good thing, and threaten it ends if $demandList isn't met, while in reality much of this activity is artifically created by those shills (not most votes, just the early spike that makes it visible enough for other people to upvote it for the sake of discussion).

This isn't going to stop, by the way - this is only going to get worse the more popular this site gets.

Extract · 2020-07-19T03:35:00+00:00

The solution is for you to create and upvote better content.

If you (and others like you) cared half as much about that as the people you whine about care about their content, it wouldn't even reach /s/all

Extract · 2020-07-18T23:49:41+00:00

You have to admit, though, it's at least on the ropes.
The next 5-10 years are going to be the most crucial in USA's history since WW2 (even more so than Vietnam), but unlike the previous times, this time, the peasants have no clear flag to rally behind - instead, the very war is over tarnishing that flag in their very home (sometimes literally).

And the problem is, most people do not see any clear way to fight back, since the enemy is organized while the resistance clustered are scattered all around, localized.

Honestly, I'm thankful to not live in the USA. If I did, however, the only thing to do (if your job/relationship status allows for it) is to move to a state which hasn't fallen yet, find same minded people, and regroup (either in an existing organization or starting a new one). Sadly, it's way too much work for most people - the current times made them spoiled, they want somebody else to solve all their problems while letting them "participate" by posting statuses on facebook or retweeting his hashtag.

Extract · 2020-11-14T03:30:07+00:00

He didn't win - he is on a path to win, unless SCOTUS rules otherwise once a the relevant lawsuits reach them.

But, if he does, I'm actually sure Saidit will be fine, in itself.

What will happen is federal government starts requesting identifying info of certain users who have "no no opinions", and if those users happen to live in the USA (or any country with laws similar to what the establishment would draft, like most of Europe or Austrailia), he'll be promptly arrested for "hate speech" by his local authorities (oh, and you better believe US will start cooperating with such authorities).

Extract · 2020-10-29T17:26:01+00:00

It serves both as a honeypot for those posting actual conspiracies (those posts will be quickly removed, the posters blacklisted by Reddit) and an artificial place to show normies how "all conspiracies are crazy" (since those are the only ones allowed to stay up).

Kind of like the worst, possible false flag pro-trump comments will be allowed to stay up on subs like /r/politics (but heavily brigaded, of course), but actual well informed comments refuting their points get censored.

Extract · 2020-08-19T22:48:16+00:00

Extract · 2020-07-19T15:15:21+00:00

That's because they are - actual far-right loonies supporting it is what makes this the (currently) most effective type of false flagging at the moment.
You just need a few dedicated accounts paddling this crap to either side (antisemitism vs SJW rethoric), and if it's allowed to stay and fester, the forum quickly loses legitimacy in the eyes of most users (see Voat).
This is probably the biggest strength of specific-interest forums like TheDonald.win - if you don't claim to be a free-speech forum, you can target those divisive shills at their roots.
On the other hand, actual free-speech forums rely on the users to constantly keep watch for those shills, which is much harder.

Extract · 2020-07-01T23:29:49+00:00

Part of what makes this site like old reddit is the userbase -this place is very similar to what Reddit was (albeit 8 years ago, so not "no long ago").

The best thing you can do right now is to advertise saidit on reddit (and other places) whenever you can.
Also, link relevant saidit posts on any platform which hasn't shadowbanned those links yet.

Extract · 2020-07-23T19:52:46+00:00

This is meant for useful idiots who aren't too far gone yet, rather than the full on seething SJWs.

Extract · 2020-07-22T22:37:53+00:00

Feel free to post on /s/consumeproduct.
Also, beware that current shill operations are raging on Saidit after the recent DDOS attacks failed to take it down.

If you'd like, feel free to familiarize yourself with shill tactics to navigate the waters with greater ease.

Extract · 2020-07-22T15:37:30+00:00

As part of the /s/ShillWall efforts, I'd like to highlight the uses of the following fallacies in this thread:

Loaded Title - the title already implies everything on this sub is "Alt-Right", without the post providing any evidence that lead to the claim.
Guilt By Association - when asked to define "Alt-Right", OP replies "Big corp censorship posts Anti- antifa/blm posts Gun rights posts Anti gender issues posts", implying that since some right people support those causes, everybody who does is "Alt-Right".

Note that this post is merely made to highlight logical fallacies used by OP, not accuse the user of using them as part of a shilling campaign.

To learn more about shill tactics, and general forum subversion tactics, feel free to check out this thread.

Extract · 2020-07-20T13:17:52+00:00

On a serious note - of course there will be real anti-semites mixed among the shills.

I'll tell you another secret - you could have been laughing at them and ignoring them from the very get-go.

Extract · 2020-07-19T15:00:47+00:00

But the thing is, they aren't doing anything "white" american's aren't doing.
There are corrupt non-Jewish politicians doing the same thing Jewish politicians are doing. They are just doing it better.

Again, by your arguments, because the logical conclusion of the corruption-prone US system is "societal destruction", that places whoever is best at exploiting that system at fault? Or maybe, just maybe, it's the people who accepted, and keep accepting, this system?

Extract · 2020-07-19T14:40:55+00:00

What would be actual evidence to you?

Personally going to Yad Vashem to review each and every piece of evidence? Or Germany, with a full on forensics team to find traces of Zyklon B in the remains of the relevant buildings?

Arguing with the idiots here is like arguing with the loonies who say the moon landing isn't real.
At some point, when the whole world (and not just those with the interest to do so) has clearly compiled enough evidence on a specific topic, you can still reject them if you're deluded enough, but it wont make them less valid.

Extract · 2020-07-19T14:34:58+00:00

What facts?
All the "facts" in this post are "bro those are sourced and established historical facts trust me".

Extract · 2020-06-28T19:49:33+00:00

I don't get why more people aren't backing up the subs that are bound to get deleted.

Not only is now the best time to help Saidit, but it's a chance to finally save some communities from being silenced.

Extract · 2020-09-11T22:25:41+00:00

Nah, it's best to not pay money for their garbage in the first place, and laugh at those who do.

Extract · 2020-09-04T20:06:56+00:00

TL;DR:

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Extract · 2020-08-20T03:03:56+00:00

Extract · 2020-08-16T21:54:50+00:00

Pretty good host, it seems, thanks for the info.

Definitely going to use them over companies like Google (GCP) or Amazon (AWS). Maybe not over Digital Ocean, but I'll at least check them out.

While it's a shame they forced Saidit to remove IP2, considering all the other subs they are still allowing to host, they have definitely allowed 1000% more than Google / Amazon would have.

If this is going to be a trend, though, I might change my mind.

Edit Digital Ocean still better, but I'll consider them as an alternative if a client asks.

Extract · 2020-08-05T00:30:49+00:00

I remember this.
A shame their "hall of shame" is located on a cancerous platform like Twitter rather than just hosted (at least as a backup) on their site.

Extract · 2020-07-26T14:09:36+00:00

/r/HelpRedditLive

Extract · 2020-07-22T16:18:47+00:00

Isn't it funny how this comment has 10 upvotes within one hour, when this whole sub has 7 readers and barely any people online?

Surely there are no shills trying to brigade this thread.

On a related note, check out /s/ShillWall - that's something you wont find on Reddit.

Extract · 2020-07-22T16:15:36+00:00

Fellow Saiditors, why leave when Reddit hasn't even banned your sub yet?

Extract · 2020-07-22T16:02:44+00:00

Ugh, I might care about Palestine when they free themselves of the reigning terrorist organization that uses countless false flags, including using their children as meat shields, and whose main western supporters are the muslim infested western countries, and maybe the most corrupt international body.
Fuck "Palestine" (aka the goat fucking terrorists who happen to occupy some of Israel).

Extract · 2020-07-22T00:59:19+00:00

It started as making fun of blind product consoomers.

It evolved the definition of "product" to cover various ideologies shoved down your throat (the same way other corporate products often).
It's not anti-left, it's anti-forced-ideologies - which include extreme left ones, but not only. Here is an example of making fun of some pretty dumb MAGA trend.

Extract · 2020-07-20T13:09:03+00:00

Guess by being here you can finally learn what they meant by "freedom isn't free".

If you want your uncensored space, it's up to you to protect it from shills, not anyone else.

Extract · 2020-07-19T13:41:40+00:00

Technically, considering the requirements to get on that list, it's a list of censoring subs.

Extract · 2020-07-19T03:37:50+00:00

Here's a secret to changing this:
1. Make better posts.
2. Upvote posts that aren't antisemitic/racist.
3. Call out such posts in the comments.
4. ~~Whine about those posts on /s/all~~ Sorry nvm forgot this isnt reddit.

Extract · 2020-07-19T03:21:14+00:00

Haha stupid niggers are poor because of their low IQ, they deserve to be where they are

NOOOOOO JEWISH PEOPLE CANT BE SUCCESSFUL BECSUCE OF THEIR HIGH IQ IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY, NEOPATISM IS RAMPANT THEY'RE STEALING OUR HIGH POSITIONS NOOOOOOOOOOO

On a side note, notice how despite black people being pretty favorable towards other blacks in the USA, those same arguments fail to apply to them?

Extract · 2020-07-01T20:25:06+00:00

On the same topic, set small, clear goals that you can accomplish in a reasonable timeframe (e.g squat extra 5kg by next month, lose 2kg weight in 3 weeks, finish this specific personal project in 2 months), write the goals down in this very record, then - accomplish them.
Before you know it, many small achievements combine into big ones.

Extract · 2020-06-30T23:20:58+00:00

Old habits die hard.

Extract · 2020-06-29T23:14:25+00:00

I see.

Creating an independent community is always good, but I personally don't want to focus on a completely isolated forum.

What made reddit great was having all the communities in one place - suddenly discovering relevant subs on the front page, people linking to other subs on the same website, or even just being able to get useless internet points that were then relevant to the whole platform, just for posting a dank meme in a sub you liked.

I do wish you luck on your project, but I predict the above reasons - same ones as for reddit - is why saidit will keep growing far better than an isolated forum.

Feel free to crosspost memes from there any time, though!

Extract · 2020-06-29T00:41:47+00:00

Sorry, but "we" allow any kind here (which is not illegal) - this is literally the principle on which saidit is built on.

To OP - ignore the gatekeeping - post as many references to saidit on your sub as you can.
If you happen to moderate other subs, reference saidit there, too.
The more people understand this is now a viable alternative to reddit, the less power the soylent hipster fuckers that run that platform have.

Extract · 2020-08-26T01:48:32+00:00

I'm still on FF, but will one day soon switch to waterfox for personal use.

Extract · 2020-08-17T02:48:52+00:00

Reported each one I saw so far.
Hopefully moderators will start responding soon.

Extract · 2020-07-23T01:17:59+00:00

I always use it.

Extract · 2020-07-19T17:10:31+00:00

"Just trust me bro!"

Extract · 2020-10-10T01:22:18+00:00

Living strong on www.thedonald.win

Extract · 2020-08-21T16:24:45+00:00

Please, dont link that cancerous site (twitter). At least link an archive of the twit. I'm simply not clicking it otherwise.

Extract · 2020-08-03T14:40:18+00:00

"At this point, what difference does it make"

Extract · 2020-07-26T21:31:55+00:00

"Hate speech" isn't heard because it doesn't exist.

It's a deliberately meaningless dog whistle invented by SJWs to label any speech they disagree with.
Notice how before the current generation of snowflakes, say, back in the 80th-90th (and most of the 00s), nobody used that made-up word, even in regards to neo-nazis (again, real ones, not the bastardized meaning of the word now) and the like.

Extract · 2020-07-25T03:58:26+00:00

Don't please - calling out those shills is extremely important, and if you stick your head in the sand, it wont make them go away - just let them post those threads with less opposition.

Extract · 2020-07-25T03:51:16+00:00

The best weapon against shills trying to fabricate problems is to take away any legitimate pretense they might have for those problems.

Now, they can no longer claim they only want the admins to censor others "because they don't want to see all those scare posts".
Of course, they can still claim more radical things, but it becomes much clearer to a neutral observer just how radical those demands are, and accept the shill for what it is.

Extract · 2020-07-20T02:56:29+00:00

On a related note (and don't answer this here, by the way), I really hope you guys have at least some of the heavy-duty user-behavior analyzers that current Reddit has - the kind that takes as input the login/view/upvote pattern of monitored accounts, and outputs the likelihood of it matching specific models (which are tuned to find shills, trolls, etc).

You should really focus on this (either development or improvement) if you hope this site survives, as at some point (once saidit is large enough) manually banning shills is going to become impractical, while letting them brigade unchallenged is even worse.

Extract · 2020-07-19T15:20:42+00:00

The alligator is a natural killing machines, weighting hundreds of pounds, capable of decimating humans with the snap of its mouth.

Are you claiming Jews were that far ahead of regular Americans, just by virtue of being Jewish? Thus, Americans should have been "sheltered" from Jews, in order to avoid competing with them for the same roles?

Extract · 2020-07-19T03:42:44+00:00

The front page is shaped by user votes.
If it's "representing" saidit, it's because the majority is upvoting them over other posts.

As this and the other post calling such posts out has more upvotes, it also shows there is a majority of lazy fucks who could change what's on the front page, but the only thing motivating them enough to vote isn't good or interesting content - it is a post that bitches and whines about others.

Extract · 2020-06-30T22:26:12+00:00

Your image resembles a big chungus. B& and reported to admi.. oh wait, this isn't reddit, carry on king.

Extract · 2020-06-30T11:35:54+00:00

Remember, not everybody is aware of saidit even existing.

Spread the message of this sub far and wide, between the many new discord groups and the new where you can on Reddit, too.
After all, Zion doesn't populate itself - it takes somebody to actively lead out the 1% out of the Matrix for that to happen.

Extract · 2020-06-30T00:32:34+00:00

Welcome, and enjoy your stay

Extract · 2020-06-23T03:53:10+00:00

Oh, so you are merely using CF?

From what you wrote earlier, I thought you actually wrote your own (or used open source) FW, complete with efficient ML models to study the attacker's patterns and get better over time.

Since you are actually just using all those features provided by CF, I got a question - what will you do if CF decides to stop protecting your your site? After all, they did drop 8chan (now 8kun) after enough pressure.

Extract · 2020-06-21T19:55:24+00:00

Yeah most of those just demonstrate the problem of the npm ecosystem.

There are ways to write clean, modular software not bloated by 100's of insecure dependencies and over-engineered solutions that you actually require 0.01% of.

Extract · 2020-12-05T01:54:25+00:00

Fact Check: Mostly True

Extract · 2020-11-01T10:42:05+00:00

Time for people in those countries to start organizing.

Or, you know, just keep on living until them, their children, their parents, or their friends are thrown into those camps.

Extract · 2020-10-14T21:54:49+00:00

Weren't those the highest ever black numbers as a republican?

Extract · 2020-10-02T06:46:41+00:00

Sadly, every non-profit that becomes a corporation will attract parasites looking to drain the life juice from the company and leave a bloated corpse behind after they're done.

Extract · 2020-09-19T01:55:04+00:00

Guess who's voting by mail this election...

Extract · 2020-09-17T21:43:22+00:00

Exactly - this isn't the result of capitalism, but rather national-level interference in capitalism.

Extract · 2020-08-24T20:45:47+00:00

They can be humans in their own shithole which they created.

Once they invade a different country, they become an enemy infiltrator.

Extract · 2020-08-02T19:24:11+00:00

Words dont kill, but bad actors do love corroding the discussion.
To check out how the shills operate, feel free to check this resource thread.
You'll notice those tactics are often used by (mainly new) accounts here - and it'll definitely get worse towards the election.

Extract

MODERATOR OF