Cloudflare terminates service for 8chans by Ian in Internet

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This clown called me a "liar and a fraud" in a comment, then created a post to do the same again. This is after he completely ignored the points that were put forth. He's bad news. I banned him (as I will anyone that calls me a liar without proof) then he went running to the site admin, just like with you. We need a way to mark these users so they are easily identifiable.

A request to Chop_Chop for a Hydrogen TL;DR by FormosaOolong in Hydrogen

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I admit I have not researched hydrogen in depth, and so I remain confused (and disturbed) by the need for water to make hydrogen

There are 22 litres of Hydrogen in ONE TABLESPOON of water. The earth is 2/3 water so there is no danger of running out. Desalination is expensive now but with renewables the cost will come down (see the middle east solar desalination projects)

Can you give us a summary of why hydrogen is a good choice for our energy needs?

Probably the best summary of global hydrogen projects is this PDF from Australia

Advancing Hydrogen: Learning from 19 plans to advance hydrogen from across the globe. This work is funded by the Future Fuels CRC, supported through the Australian Governments’ Cooperative Research Centres Program. 125 page PDF JULY 2019
https://www.futurefuelscrc.com/files/download/450181d39712b07

Sorry for the late reply, busy with other stuff, and missed the post until today

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Just to be clear, that poster called me a liar in a comment after refusing to read or comprehend any of the replies they were provided, then created a post that directly called me a liar again. When posters call me a liar I'm going to ban them. Let me know if this is not ok, thanks. To make matters worse, that poster then lied about the interaction, just for the record. You can review the mod logs in s/hydrogen if you'd like to see what happened.

Porsche Taycan WORLD EXCLUSIVE genuine first drive & launch control testing 0-200kph | Fully Charged by Chop_Chop in cars

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Porsche Global Newsroom:

26 times from 0–200 km/h and back: the new Porsche Taycan demonstrates its staying power

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019/products/porsche-taycan-reproducibility-power-output-electric-drive-18322.html

Off the grid: Hopewell, New Jersey man runs home without using electricity by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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He's managed to make it work since 2005 but he says he's been the victim of attempted poisoning. One of the great US Hydrogen Pioneers for sure! Some worthwhile videos on his website http://hydrogenhouseproject.org

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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Which makes you a liar.

It's unfortunate that you have resorted to this. But I've come to expect it from the likes of you.

You also need to brush up on the 'logical fallacy' crib sheet.

You need to brush up on today's hydrogen industry. And I don't really care what you think about it. Directly insult me again and watch what happens. Now don't you have anything better to do?

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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You don't seem to be able to disentangle H2 and 'green' in your mind. You will forever be foolish if you can't separate the two and understand the true role of H2.

Rubbish, piled on rubbish. I'm pretty sure I understand the "true" role of H2 after studying the industry for the last 5 years.

Do you think you can crack enough water to provide H2 to power electricity gen to match a doubled grid when the solar and wind goes down? Because that means you now need to have 2.5 - 3x the peak supply that we currently have.], plus H2 powered generating infrastructure that sits idle most of the time.

All of this and more has been studied by actual professionals, which it seems you are completely unfamiliar with

International Energy Agency: The Future of Hydrogen -Seizing today’s opportunities 203 pg study, 6/2019
https://webstore.iea.org/the-future-of-hydrogen
(Free reg required for download)

At the request of the government of Japan under its G20 presidency, the International Energy Agency (IEA) has produced this landmark report to analyse the current state of play for hydrogen and to offer guidance on its future development.

The report finds that clean hydrogen is currently enjoying unprecedented political and business momentum, with the number of policies and projects around the world expanding rapidly. It concludes that now is the time to scale up technologies and bring down costs to allow hydrogen to become widely used. The pragmatic and actionable recommendations to governments and industry that are provided will make it possible to take full advantage of this increasing momentum.

Given a choice between an anonymous poster on the internet and IEA professionals, I'm going with the pros.

Think whatever you want about H2 and Renewable energy. Won't make even a tiny tiny difference to the Leaders in this sector- China, Japan, Korea and soon Australia

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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You seem to be confused about H2 and renewable energy.

Here's a video that may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9117XqRG54

And here's the "Father of EV's" in China. Do you imagine that you know as much as Wan Gang about electric vehicles and hydrogen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsjcEDOQ3A

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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A good debate has a solid footing. When you shift the goalposts, there's no learning, no gain, just a stupid game of chase.

No goalposts were shifted. You wrote: "energy has to come from somewhere to create the H2" as if anyone that advocates H2 doesn't know this. Condescend all you want.

H2 isn't inherently green. Stop pretending it is and then we can appreciate its energy density together.

It is if it is made with renewable energy. Stop pretending that it is not.

There will be LESS excess renewable energy,

ROFL

You haven't begun to hear about hydrogen. Take that to the bank.

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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energy has to come from somewhere to create the H2

This is called "Assuming the reader knows nothing about H2"

Do you think anyone in the H2 industry doesn't know this?

In the future, do you think there will be MORE excess renewable energy or LESS excess renewable energy?

LA Times June 2019: California has too much solar power

Goldwind joins 20GW hydrogen plan in China

Like other wind-rich areas of China, Baicheng’s grid faces problems accommodating power from the 4.65GW of existing wind and solar capacity serving the city, leading to curtailment of output.... https://www.evwind.es/2019/07/20/goldwind-joins-20gw-hydrogen-plan-in-china/68122

Just curious, what country are you in?

Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "Through its joint venture Hyundai Hydrogen Mobility, H2 Energy and Hyundai intend to bring hydrogen energy onto Swiss roads by 2025 – 600 more than originally announced" by [deleted] in Hydrogen

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Just ignore China, Korea and Japan. One day soon, many North Americans are going to wake up and wonder how China took over the H2 fuel cell industry. It will be loads of fun to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsjcEDOQ3A

If you're not interested in H2, don't click on a headline with hydrogen in it.

Canadian Company Takes Delivery of First Toyota Fuel Cell Vehicles by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhm6S3Gs1Q

Example of recent news, this from yesterday:

Switzerland: Alpiq and H2 plan to use hydroelectrical power for hydrogen. "From the end of 2019, hydrogen for the first 50 of a total of 1,600 (Hyundai) fuel cell trucks will be produced at the Gösgen hydroelectric power station using hydroelectric power." LINK

You can drive throughout Denmark on hydrogen made from 100% renewable energy right now.

China Preps Hydrogen Subsidy Regime to Go Even Cleaner Than Battery Electric Cars by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Bob Lazar(sp) has a hydrogen powered Corvette

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytg23mDd1a4

The substance, and it's on the tip of my mind, but bah

Application of hydrides in hydrogen storage and compression: Achievements, outlook and perspectives LINK

My point is, the only reason hydrogen powered vehicles haven't become prominent in the US, is because of the US Govt, and the deep state behind them.

True- for more than just the lack of hydride storage- according to Stan Thompson, the "Father" of Hydrogen Rail, when Obama got into office he threw out all hydrogen funding and programs in favor of batteries. Just for politics, because he didn't like Bush. A disgrace. Well they can't stop the rest of the world now. It's full speed ahead for China, Japan and Korea.

Funny about Lazar- I contacted him some months ago and he didn't know that Toyota, Honda and Hyundai had hydrogen cars on the roads in California. These cars are using PEM fuel cells, not ICE with hydrogen fuel, which apparently surprised him. At that time he said batteries had made H2 obsolete. LOL It was a WTF moment!