Here’s James Woods from Twitter yesterday: “This much is certain after all this rioting: in two weeks we’re either going to have a shitload of sick Democrats, or we’re going to realize COVID-19 was not what Democrats said it was.”

Chipit · 2020-06-03T12:39:16+00:00

It's red on red right now. The left and far left are attacking the Democrats who rule them. The right has no dog in this hunt other than defending our property. If the left wants to stop some bullets why get in their way?

What did you expect was going to happen? A bunch of right wingers go do your work for you and start shooting the police and then get destroyed in return? Yeah, the "let's you and him fight" idea is pretty transparent.

Remember when the right tried protesting the lockdowns and all you said was "you morons aren't social distancing, you're a danger to yourselves and everyone else, go home idiots." Nobody forgot that. Funny how the whole social distancing thing went out the window when the left went into the streets.

Chipit · 2020-06-04T05:40:25+00:00

"An absurd absolute is a restatement of the other person's reasonable position as an absurd absolute. For example, if your point is there is high crime in Detroit, the absurd absolute would be your debate opponent saying something such as "So, you're saying every person in Detroit is a criminal." When your debate opponent recasts your opinion to include an "absolute" word, such as every, always, never, all, completely, universally, and the like, you are seeing cognitive dissonance.

Some people call what I just described a strawman argument. But a strawman argument refers to any sort of inaccurate recasting of your opponent's argument. That is the generic case. I'm referring to a specific strawman argument that uses an absurd absolute. When your debate opponent recasts your point as an absurd absolute, you won the debate. That's as far as you can go."

Chipit · 2020-06-03T15:34:24+00:00

Sure, they influence millions of people who listen to NPR every day and take what they say as gospel because it's publicly funded. That's pretty much the opposite of a nobody.

Chipit · 2020-06-03T13:05:27+00:00

You don't get to be an editor at NPR and a professor at Georgetown without being influential and accepted by elites. Come off it, the whole "she's a nobody" argument ain't gonna work.

She meets more decision makers who affect your life at a single party than you will in your entire existence. And she's teaching hate and violence is acceptable to the next generation of elites.

Chipit · 2020-06-03T14:17:56+00:00

Cornell West is a race traitor who called Obama a “Rockefeller Republican in blackface”. Jimmy Dore is routinely villified as a right-wing tool because he betrays the maxim "no enemies to the left, no friends to the right". Slavoj Žižek had the debate with the nazi Jordan Peterson and didn't destroy him like he promised. Jill Stein cost Hillary the election. Matt Taibbi...wasn't he the Jew-hater? He definitely hated the Tea Party for having the guts to succeed where Occupy Wall Street failed. Cindy Sheehan?? The same Cindy Sheehan who demanded that the US military not only pull out of Iraq but out of New Orleans as well, calling it "occupied New Orleans?" That batshit crazy lady?

That's all the names I know out of your list. The rest...like I said, they do a good job staying hidden. Hillary should have put them in charge of her emails.

Agreed. FYI, the war didn't start in 2020. Global War Of Terror started

I meant the culture war. The one that seeks to demonize every American to the right of Mao Zedong and drive them from the public square. You know how I know so much about Hitler's positions? I got called a nazi so many times that I had the thought - wait a minute, am I one? It occurred to me that I didn't actually know the tenets of national socialism. Hey, maybe they're right and how would I know? So I looked them up. Turns out, I'm not on board with them at all. Hoo-boy. Gun confiscation, nationalization of private property, the idea that every citizen is just a part of the state, no free speech, collectivism...no way Jose. I found that fascism grew directly out of socialism, which is why it has the positions it does. Citation: http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm

This is because the Western Right's outgroup is people who aren't Westerners. BUT the Western Left's outgroup is the Right. This is the best explanation I've ever heard at this link. A bit long but worth reading every word because it answers SO many questions. http://archive.is/QRJ6m

Being on "Team USA" is more than half the problem.

That means the American people, as detailed in the explanation linked above.

Your tribe is corrupt as fuck

I fuckin' hate globalists, and they hate my tribe. If they had their way they'd drown us in immigrants and laugh.

Well, you've made a good case for your side. I feel like Treebeard from The Two Towers when he says, "we have agreed that you are not orcs." But I still have a sneaking suspicion that as soon as I listen to one of your speakers I'm going to watch them call my people nazis in the first five minutes.

...Aaaand I just searched for the first name on your list, Cornell West, and here he is calling Trump a "neo-fascist gangster in the White House." I mean, come on. Another person who doesn't know what he's talking about. Not a good start.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T18:50:43+00:00

Because it's all about bashing The Other. You can point out hypocrisy and double standards all day long and it won't make a lick of difference. If you're not in the left's ingroup, you aren't a person, you're a thing. A thing to be overcome and destroyed.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T11:23:35+00:00

Being an editor at NPR and a professor at freaking Georgetown isn't an important person? WTF? Georgetown graduates the next generation of people who will staff federal agencies in DC. She's teaching them this ugly bigotry and calling for violence.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T09:20:12+00:00

the right considers the left part of it's ingroup because they are also Westerners.

Yup.

And the left must be self loathing

The left's outgroup is the right. Not itself. Maybe a Venn diagram would help.

Meanwhile the real authentic oldskool left is trying to fight the ruling class establishment for everyone to get social systems that care for everyone - like decent healthcare, education, affordable medicine, etc.

Sure, whatever you say man. These people don't exist. I've never been able to find any. Leftists are hostile and nasty, especially to anyone they can identify as working class.

Playing their tribalist games makes you as much a fool as them.

Hey, I didn't want to play these games. I'm on Team USA. But unfortunately when you're in a war the first step to fighting back is realizing you're in a war. We were getting our asses kicked until we started resisting.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T04:08:25+00:00

It's simple Otherizing. When The Other does it, it's wrong. When we do the same thing, it's OK.

No cognitive dissonance. You can point out the double standard all day long and it won't cause a bit of trouble. They know they're right and you're wrong and that's all that matters.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T04:40:28+00:00

It's simple Otherizing. It's easy if you understand it.

The right's outgroup is people who aren't westerners, and its ingroup is westerners. The left's ingroups are the right's outgroups, and the left's outgroup is the right.

Once you get this, it makes sense. Tolerance and understanding to the ingroup, while the outgroup can do no right. No cognitive dissonance. It's a double standard that they're completely comfortable with.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T03:45:16+00:00

But the people doing it towards the American people are overwhelmingly on the left.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T03:47:04+00:00

Are you trying to discredit this and figured out a way to do it? WTF? Search NPR or Georgetown University sites. Or just her name. Jeez. Come on, calling for violence against Trump is hardly controversial.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T03:44:41+00:00

Would you rather have Israel being threatened by Saddam?

Would you rather have France lose its profit issuing the franc for Africa to use?

If not, then you support American wars over the world. Trump is a huge block to further plans, as he is against starting more wars. The unelected government tried to start wars in Venezuela and Iran and North Korea only to fail.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T03:38:50+00:00

It's not daft. The right's ingroup is westerners and its outgroup is non-westerners. The left's ingroup are the right's outgroups, and the left's outgroup is the right.

It makes perfect sense and matches all of the dehumanizing rhetoric we see on a daily basis.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T21:41:09+00:00

It's really hard to feel any sympathy for Vice. They are the enemy of the people.

I love how shouting his talisman against evil didn't work. Turns out, journalists aren't any better than anyone else.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T11:25:40+00:00

Refusing to read as if it's going to somehow contaminate your being. It won't. It's an insightful and prescient piece written by a leftist. Not a hippy, frankly rather forward looking. Go on, I promise it won't harm you. https://archive.fo/QRJ6m

Chipit · 2020-06-02T09:22:33+00:00

You really should. Ignorance is nothing to be proud of. It was written by a leftist so it's OK to read. https://archive.fo/QRJ6m

Chipit · 2020-06-01T18:57:55+00:00

Saddam was removed because he was a threat to Israel.

Gaddafi was about to introduce an alternative currency for Africa to displace the French franc. Why do you think France took the lead?

We Americans literally elected a leader to put a stop to this globalist bullshit. He hasn't started a single war. In fact he tried to end Afghanistan and Syria and was overruled by the unelected government.

But go ahead and bash Americans. It makes you feel better about your own shitty country. That was the biggest eyeopener about anti-Americanism I learned about. So much of it is envy and jealousy that comes out in creative ways. By otherwise intelligent people who just go crazy when the topic of America comes up. Remember Der Speigel and their lies? Easily debunked, all of them, and nobody checked. It was what they wanted to hear.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T17:19:52+00:00

The greatest threat to black people isn't the police, it's other black people. That's what would be being addressed if black lives actually mattered to BLM. See http://heyjackass.com it details the American carnage of what blacks do to other blacks. Note the only number in single digits: police involved shootings.

Chipit · 2020-06-02T03:41:54+00:00

Gonna need a citation on that. The people who came in burning them out of house and home like Serbians to Bosnians were the Afro-American community. I can point you to a bunch of rap songs that clearly called for violence before the event and prepared the community for the riots against Koreans.

It wasn't looters, it was people coming in to burn them out and force the Korean outsiders out of "their" neighborhoods. How dare they build businesses and serve the locals!

Chipit · 2020-06-01T21:12:38+00:00

If you got a table with one nazi and ten people talking to her, you got a table with eleven nazis.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T20:41:50+00:00

Huh? Vox Day, the alt right racist? And you're calling others racist? I'm so confused.

Racist, racist, racist. Racist. Racist. Raaaaaaacist.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T19:31:52+00:00

Sigh. It doesn't literally mean you can move to Beverly Hills. But you knew that. I notice this a lot, people will restate arguments dishonestly and then attack the strawman they just created. It's why we have the pyramid of debate.

This doesn't even merit a blip on the malev-o-meter compared to real injustices. I thought we always judge American problems by worldwide standards? Are we not doing that anymore? Just like social distancing suddenly disappeared?

Oh look, a social justice type is losing an argument and responding by calling the other person racist. How unusual.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T19:02:31+00:00

They are defending themselves against an attempted ethnic cleansing operation by the Afro-American community of Los Angeles.

It worked, too. It stopped the ethnic cleansing in its tracks.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T18:44:47+00:00

You can move wherever you want. Come on...systemic injustice? Gimme a break. The Rohiringa in Burma are facing systemic injustice. The Uighur in China are facing systemic injustice. Black people in America don't even crack the top 25. There are literally racial preferences written into US law.

You could open a chain of fresh fruit stores in bad neighborhoods. But you won't, because the local residents would welcome you with constant robberies whenever they need money, and wouldn't buy fruit in the first place.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T17:19:36+00:00

The greatest threat to black people isn't the police, it's other black people. That's what would be being addressed if black lives actually mattered to BLM. See http://heyjackass.com it details the American carnage of what blacks do to other blacks. Note the only number in single digits: police involved shootings.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T10:13:57+00:00

Wha...? The right is all about criticism. Tons of people can't stand Republicans, Tories, whoever. They don't get deleted.

But when people criticize the left...yes, censorship does happen. Their arguments can't win in an open marketplace of ideas. They have to have complete control over every conversation to stay afloat. They always have to push for a situation that makes it harder for any voice but theirs be heard. Until recently they had it, but now that we the people can speak truth to power, they're scared and lashing out.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T10:12:05+00:00

Wow, thanks for granting me permission for rights given by God.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T05:04:20+00:00

Not people. Professional journalists who tell us that they are better than that. That's why it's so shocking.

Chipit · 2020-06-01T05:03:42+00:00

Well you should have rewritten it. Do you understand why all caps is bad?

Chipit · 2020-05-31T16:59:51+00:00

TDS is depressingly common.

Anyway, I'm going to keep posting the narrative-destroying inconvenient truths. Toodle-oo!

Chipit · 2020-05-31T12:10:22+00:00

The ones you obviously want me to stop posting.

For example, everyone is hating on Trump for wanting to repeal Section 230. Hey, did you know Biden wants to repeal it too? https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/1/17/21070403/joe-biden-president-election-section-230-communications-decency-act-revoke

Boy, that sure crushes the narrative, eh? Sure wish you had some way of censoring these facts from getting out, eh? Hey, if you want to play at the bottom of the Pyramid of Debate we can do that. If you want to have some actual arguments, make them.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T18:21:40+00:00

Black people murder whites all the time, and it rarely makes the news. Inconvenient narrative.

Don't get me started on prison rapes.

Chipit · 2020-05-31T06:42:44+00:00

Have you even looked at the pyramid of debate? https://saidit.net/static/debatepyramid.jpg

I think you're just angry about seeing a lot of inconvenient truth, and are lashing out at the person rather than formulate arguments why the truths are wrong. It's a pretty common human reaction.

Chipit · 2020-05-31T17:14:48+00:00

What's the friggen deal with ALL CAPS? Do you people know or not know that all caps makes you look like a blithering idiot? And people don't click or listen to ALL CAPS shouters?

Chipit · 2020-05-31T14:12:20+00:00

What! No. What is with the constant placing of words in my mouth? You're not a mind-reader.

I'm just judging them for being petty, spiteful nobodies when they're supposed to be journalists. In their station they're supposed to be above such gradeschool antics as jealousy. They style themselves heroes, while they are nothing but base scoundrels.

Chipit · 2020-05-31T01:39:33+00:00

Journalists betraying the very foundation of their profession to engage in spite and petty jealousy? Yes that is shocking.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T14:15:12+00:00

That's not an argument, that's a personal attack. Please move up from the bottom floor of the Pyramid of Debate.

If you had any arguments, you'd use them. But you've got nothing. Hence the meaningless ad hominem.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T06:39:50+00:00

Oh...well, crap. It got deleted. It was about him losing his channel due to false copyright claims by an SJW impostor.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T16:04:38+00:00

Can we discuss the issue at hand? That journalists are trying to discredit a journalist for performing journalism?

Chipit · 2020-05-30T14:15:54+00:00

Always with the personal attack. Never an actual refutation of the evidence.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T14:14:17+00:00

Maybe they should stop being guff then. Whatever guff means.

Remember how Micheal Moore was a hero to the Left? Now suddenly he's a far-right activist. Can't make this shit up. All because he had the gall to criticize the grifters and scammers of the "climate change" movement. They had him censored lest his movie change people's minds.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T08:59:33+00:00

What points? You didn't make any points. I accused you of hating America...because you fit the profile of the America-hater. Do you hate America? Lots of people do. The media, the Democrats, most Europeans. You'd be in good company.

Post-WWII without the Americans leading would have been a global depression followed by the communists overrunning Europe all the way to Portugal.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T07:36:35+00:00

Do you hate America?

You have the standard profile of a hater. Denial that America had anything to do with the post WWII security environment and the massive increase in the entire world's standard of living that took place under American leadership.

Chipit · 2020-05-30T06:34:53+00:00

That's not an argument. That's a personal attack. It's at the bottom of the pyramid of debate and expressly against Saidit rules.

Would you like to form an argument against the substance of the story, that the EU countries are fighting with one another? It's due to their weak hand against the UK. They went into the negotiations as bullies, only to be beaten back. Now they're wounded and angry.

Chipit · 2020-05-29T15:21:20+00:00

Bombing from 500 feet...how could they miss? The narrator said smoke, but jeez.

The rear gunners did a better job and riddled the Kaiser's train with bullets.

Chipit · 2020-05-29T13:55:42+00:00

Dehumanizing means denying a person's humanity. Calling him an animal is denying his humanity. It's just that simple.

Of course, it's only wrong when other people do it, but when you do it it's A-OK. Here's a nice essay that explains why you do this: http://archive.is/QRJ6m

Chipit · 2020-05-28T16:55:15+00:00

It means he cares deeply. A man who didn't care wouldn't bother to break her nose.

Chipit · 2020-05-28T16:51:00+00:00

Says the nutty weirdo who trusts Google and the mainstream media.

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Chipit · 2020-05-27T16:39:42+00:00

He did those things because he has strong feelings for her. No wonder it gives her a thrill.

Chipit · 2020-05-28T09:53:33+00:00

Google, the untrustworthy search index? The one that censors in order to color their results? Come now, you first cite the mainstream media and now Google? You've got to cite credible sources.

Chipit · 2020-05-28T09:25:56+00:00

Well jeez, that's your position: you're citing the media to back up your position. Trusting them is folly, but I'm not the one doing it!

This is an ice pick

Chipit · 2020-05-28T08:29:31+00:00

It's the dehumanizing rhetoric. "Heartless animals" is literally calling people less than human.

If she had been robbed and raped instead of evicted, would you have called the criminals heartless animals? Why or why not? Is it OK to dehumanize people who commit crimes? What about people who follow legal procedures and commit no crimes?

Chipit