Inmate sues government over keeping trans women in all-female prisons

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-06T02:06:26+00:00

Hey, hate-readers! You're always asking for people to be kind, so I'll comply and give you some tips that may help you to convince people. If you want to refute "TERFs" arguments so much, you should start from the very beginning. If our definition of woman is wrong, then tell us what a woman is. Please, be sure to provide a non-circular definition (i.e. avoid saying "a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman" or similar phrases). Furthermore, the definition should not rely on sexist stereotipes. You may also want to refrain from sending death and rape threats and yelling "shut up" because, when you do so, people assume that you don't have any argument to defend your stance, you know?. Not to mention, engaging in such violent behaviours is very "unlady-like", and you don't want your interlocutor to have doubts about your "gender identity", right?

Once you have done that, you can start talking about everything else. ;)

BiologyIsReal · 2020-12-10T03:40:54+00:00

Good to hear that the support letters have outnumbered the hate mail. Rowlling speaking out about transgender ideology have been one of the few hightlights of this chaotic year for me, one that I never expected, either (and Keira's success in the UK courts have been another one). I'm impressed she have not backed out despite all the vitriol she received.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-12-08T14:49:51+00:00

Berkeley professor Grace Lavery was the man who was calling for stealing and burning Abigail Shrier's book a while ago. Definitely, he is far from being the most qualified man to speak about how to deal with "hate groups".

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-16T02:10:40+00:00

Playing the blame game? I think detransitioners are right to be upset when they have been fed lies -like how this is totally reversible and a cure to all their problems- by the medical and psycological establisment, the media, the teachers and, sometimes, their parents. There is no way that children -whether male or female- can consent to such drastic medical procedures, and even less so when the doctors themselves don't know all the risks and downplay the known risks. Before affirmative therapy and puberty blockers became the standard treatment, most trans identified children, which in the past were mostly males, desisted from identifying with the opposite sex. And lets not forget that no other psycological issue is treated the same way as gender dysphoria.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-18T03:29:53+00:00

Good thing they never learn their tactics tend to backfire.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-10-29T22:34:48+00:00

Yes, it's satire. Jarvis Dupont is a fictional character made to satirize identity politics.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-04-12T23:03:14+00:00

Seriously?! Are you f***ing kidding me?! This guy is a renowned biologist and atheist, but he has so little selfrespect that he is kow-towing to all the wanabe biologists zealots who are forcing their nonsensical religion on everyone else in the world? Such coward! I'm 100% sure he didn't receive a single rape for an "unknown" reason. I'm fed up with him and all the others with a background in biological and health sciences enabling trans fantasies. It's pretty simple: men are not and wil never be women! There is not a single reason to going along with this TWAW bullshit when not even trans identified people themselves buy such a nonsense! We may as well give anorexics liposuctions and tell schizofrenics the voices are real at, too at this rate! It's exactly the same!

And no, I'm not going to moderate my language. I don't care if the unhinged idiots at the stupid stalking sub take at screenshot of my post. The people who take offense at my language, but at all the death and rape trhreats, all the racist and rapey, and othet garbage that transactivists say daily are a lost cause, anyway.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-07T18:05:40+00:00

Trans ideology is a self-contradictory mess which falls apart as soon you start asking the most simple questions and this is a very good example of it. Yes, they want to implement self-ID because "gender identity" is supposedly this very important thing that only oneself can determine. But, at the same time, they yell "Not a true trans" when you mention a bad trans or a detransitioner. And that is why they work very hard to ensure the general public neither hear about of the Karen White or Jonathan Yaniv of the world nor about the incresing number of detransitions.

However, they can't hide the truth forever and, I think, sooner or later these policies will backfire on them, which makes me wonder what is the objetive of all of this. Obviously, trans people themselves are trying to live out their fantasies and they're so good at denying reality than they can't (or don't want to) see how the general population will eventually stop catering to their demands. But what their supporters (and I mean those who are in positions of power and not the average internet troll chanting TWAW) gain with this? Is it money? An excuse for human experimentation or eugenics? Are they counting on a ultra conservative backlash? Or do they really think we are all accept this "sex is a spectrum" nonsense?

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-02T20:27:09+00:00

The mods already deleted the original post, even though OP played the pronouns game and focused on economic status. The thread has been locked too.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-06-30T01:05:54+00:00

Really, people who think that males and females are a social construct cannot expect to be taken seriously until they are able to explain how babies are made.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-24T01:57:19+00:00

Yes, my understanding is superficial. One thing: When a woman who was once a man is competing against women who have always been women, I think she has an advantage, because she inherited a man's body, which is usually bigger and stronger than a woman's. Does that prove phobia?

Why saying this is "contoversial" in first place? If men don't have an athletic advantage over women, then why sports were segregated by sex?

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-09T01:28:10+00:00

What the most scary in this, is that USA are always exporting their politics and ideas to other countries, so this will mean that it will be pushed in many other countries as well.

This. Lately, I've seen many American women getting angry with foreigners who are not thrilled with Biden's win. It's like they don't understand how influential their own country is. Biden will push the TRA agenda in many other countries besides the US.

Here is an news article where Biden says he will continue the age-long American tradition of lecturing other countries about human rights.

Edit: Also, I think several of us are puzzled about how many American women are so conviced the Democrats care about women's rights and they just don't have all the facts about the Equality Act and TRA.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-11-01T03:21:17+00:00

Sometime ago I noticed something quite interesting about about sex positive supporters. For a bunch of people who love to criticize religious people's notions of sexuality, they surely are also quite evangelical in their own beliefs. I wondered how they didn't see the irony, but it seems I understimated how cultish they were. No surprising, I guess, since I knew little about how cults operate until this year.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-10-12T23:13:04+00:00

I can't say I really peaked as I've never believe in TWAW. I've never feel really feminine despite being a women, for that reason I always found something ofensive about a effeminate man claiming womanhood. Also I know enough about biology to not buy the "but intersex!" excuse. However, I didn't pay attention to this topic because I take a "live and let live" philosophy as long noone is harming anyone and I though trans were a tiny minority, anyway.

Several things make me reconsider this approach, though. First, I noticed how the world seemed to be more obsessed with gender roles than 20 or even 10 years ago and I started worrying that transgenderism supporters were re-enforcing the very same gender roles and stereotypes that they claimed to defy. Moreover, I heard about the so called “cis privilege”, and rejected this concept from the beginning because I didn’t think any woman, including the very feminine ones, was privileged just for the fact of being born female. Some people were arguing TW should use the women's bathroom, an idea I found ridiculous because they weren't women and beacuse sex predators were bound to abuse this. I also heard some people arguing things like sexual orientation was based not on sex but on gender and a transgender individual didn’t have to disclose their biological sex to their romantic or sexual partners, all which sounded pretty rape-y to me.

In short, I was growing wary of gender ideology and the fact the only pushback I saw came from people who didn’t buy in the sex change narrative but still believed in and supported gender roles, didn’t help. The last straw for me was when the UN decided to include transwoman on International Women’s Day! At this point, it really felt like I’ve stepped in an alternative universe were things worked differently from ours. I mean, I even stumbled upon a graffiti claiming something like there were boys with vulvas and girls with penises! Such disregard for biology was maddening and I still hadn’t heard the worst of it.

This March, I find out more about trans rights activists’ goals, by chance. I ended up in a radical feminist website while searching for another topic. In the side-bar there were some articles about transgenderism which picked my curiosity. The more I read the more horrified I got: not only the future I feared was much closer than I thought, it was also way worse than anything I ever imagined! In a matter of a few days, I learned about things like self-ID laws, the “cotton ceiling”, male rapists in women’s prisons, autogynephilia, children and teenagers being medically transitioned, girls surpassing boys in gender dysphoria statistics, the increasing number of young detransitioners, legitimate research on the topic being shut down because it were against the official narrative, the rape and death threats towards women with opposing views, the butchering of the language 1984-style, and more.

I can’t describe how mad and frightened I was and I still am! I’m angry with all the scientists and health professionals endorsing this ideology despite they should know better than to think sex is neither binary nor immutable. I’m angry with all those involved on the transitioning of children and I can’t believe this is not a huge medical scandal already. Neither, I can’t understand how a lot of self-proclaimed feminist are championing the erasure of women’s rights and tolerating all the rape threats sent to Rowling and all the other women who dare to speak out. How can they not see the misoginy of this?

But it gets worse. About two months ago, I learned I was wrong in thinking the gender ideology was concentrated in the English speaking countries. I thought the peak of this insanity have yet to come to my country, but it turns out both self-ID and transition of minors are already legal here in Argentina since 2012. Oh, and there are more insane laws incoming! I'm in despair...

BiologyIsReal · 2021-07-01T00:29:27+00:00

I don’t use bathroom that match my “gender”, I use bathrooms that match my SEX. And in some places males can get away with using women’s bathrooms by claiming to be women. In some parts of the world women don’t have access to single-sex bathrooms and they suffer from it. Not understanding the importance of sex-segregated bathrooms for women IS a sign of privilege.
Lies, I’ve been questioned for not being “feminine” enough despite that I’m not that “masculine”. Women are also judged by their appearance all the dam time.
That is because people can tell someone else’s sex. But, if I made up a ridiculous name for me, people surely will ask me what my real name is.
More lies. People may discriminate women for not being “feminine” enough, or just for being women, really. Employers also may discriminate women for the possibility of getting pregnant.
False. Your sex is very important when pursuing a romantic/sexual relationship. For example, as a straight woman, I’m not interested in women that way. Likewise, gay men also are not interested in me.
“Gender identity” has no place in the emergency room. What matters is your sex. Treating trans identified people according to their “gender identity” may get them killed. Is that what they want?
It’s the only medical condition where self-diagnosis and self-medicalization is encouraged. Trans activists are also the ones deciding what (and what not) is researched in this area.
Well, people may speculate about a possible trauma or abuse based in many things, but it’s true that people don’t usually think a lack of cross-sex identification is the result of abuse or trauma.
Some males have been sent to women’s prisons by claiming to be women in certain countries. And that have no ended up well for the female inmates, i.e. rape. Have you ever heard about “Karen White”?
Really? Because I could have sworn there was a lack of role models for women in certain areas…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hollywood depicting women well? Please tell me you’re joking.
Having legal documents that state false information about you is not a right, sorry. Lying about your identity may get anyone in trouble with the police. Whether the police may abuse their power is a separate issue, but not exclusive of trans identified people.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-03-17T03:09:51+00:00

To be honest, I'm shy and I tend to overthink anything I post. Usually I'm more of a lurker, but I felt the need to speak out about all the sex denialism I was seeing. I started posting here before Ovarit, so I'm more used to this forum.
I like that there is no downvoting here.
I think there is a bigger chance of reaching people who are on the fence here. And, recently, I started to post in the debate sub for the same reason.
I don't like the purity politics of some of the users there.

I still post on Ovarit, just not as often.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-12-08T01:57:31+00:00

Biologists would explain her that there are only two sexes. Gender isn't a biological concept and, honestly, I can't help but feel that this word has only muddied the waters.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-04-25T03:53:59+00:00

Well, good for you for not finding sex-seggregated spaces necessary, but why do you get to decide for other women what we should get comfortable with?

Also, we consider trans women a group of women, not a group of men.

According to this study males who identifies as trans retain male pattern of crimminality, though. It's worth pointing out the authors only evaluated males who undergone full "SRS", i.e. likely the ones who are more commited to "pass" as women.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-03-24T18:54:42+00:00

GC here, but I think missexisng is the whole point because reminding them of their biology breaks the fantasy. Talking about gender identity is just a way to make the general public to go along with the pretense.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-04-30T03:35:56+00:00

Nobody is born in the wrong body. Your brain is a part of your body. An atypical brain doesn't make you the opposite sex. Also, if the brain theory were true, then why don't they make brain scans to determine who is truly trans? (Just a rethorical question).

Trans people are free to believe they are the opposite sex if they want. It's not reasonable, however, to expect that everyone else goes along with such beliefs. To force people to treat them as if they were "social women" (or "men") seems like a form of compelled spech. I don't share the idea that don't using prefered pronouns it's a rude, or worse, extremist position. Pronouns and the words women, men, female and male are not insults. Moreover, this "basic courtesy" we are being asked to do is pretty one-sided. Nobody asked me if I find the association of womanhood with sexist stereotypes (which trans people usually rely on to "pass") offensive, for instance.

As for how good is the idea of "social women" (or "men") is, well... I think it's extremely problematic. Part of the reason, I think, we are in this situation is because society have been politely going along with trans people's beliefs for too long. The issue is that treating them as honoraries members of the opposite sex creates the appearance that other people really believe in trans' "identities". And many trans people need external validation because, it seems, that deep down they don't believe in their chosen "identities", either. So, they will keep asking for more.

When transactivists lobbied for the self-ID (though they didn't call it that way, obviously) to be passed in my country, they focused on the concept of identity. They said the law wouldn't affect anyone else and it would only make their lives easier. Just a change in their documents, they say. However, it didn't stay that way. It turns out that if you make someone legally a "woman" (or a "man"), then you have to treat them as such in all aspects. Who would have thought it, right? Transactivists here, in preparation for the gender identity law, also make sure to "educate" local journalists about how this law didn't affect anyone else and "inclusive language" like prefered pronouns. You know, so journalists would be able to "explain" this stuff to general public properly.

BiologyIsReal · 2020-10-30T03:08:24+00:00

"I'll stand up to bullies and once more put human rights at the center of America's engagement with the world," Biden said.

Can't they leave the rest of the world alone for once?!!!

BiologyIsReal · 2020-10-27T01:58:32+00:00

Nobody is denying they are people, but a transgender identified person can get pregnat only if she is female. "Inclusive" language is not going to change that fact.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-07-01T02:20:11+00:00

1. Please provide proof.

2. Most people fall to live up 100% to the sex roles and stereotypes of their culture.

3. A male using a female name is the reason why people know that is not his real name.

4. Yes, TRA says this bullshit all the time. They say women are discriminated not for our sex, but for feminity and that we're privilieged for being born female. How do you explain things like sex selective abortion, FGM or menstrual huts then? Women are rutinely disbelieved when talking about their discrimination, yet "trans women" are automatically believed about whatever they say. BTW, in my country, Argentina, trans people got self-ID and free "gender affirming treatment" passed in law 8 years before abortion was legalized. What is more, the gender identity law got more support from the lawmakers. "Cis" privilege, my a**.

5. It's easy to talk about hypotheticals. How many "trans men" has you actually dated? Do you even know how "neopenises" actually look like? Can you affirm they are indistiguishable from actual penises?

6. ER staff have more pressing issues than worrying about a patient's pronouns, who may not be even concious...

7. Do you think self-diagnosis are a good idea for other medical conditions, too?

9. Yes, they can. However, most rapists are men. And trans identified males (aka "trans women") retain male patterns of criminality.

12. This sounds like the problem was their race...

BiologyIsReal · 2021-06-30T02:25:51+00:00

But if women are just a social construct, then there is no reason for anyone to take that nude dude's claims of being a woman seriously. If one can't define what a woman is, then no one can claim to be a woman either.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-05-29T18:47:15+00:00

What does identifying as a man or a woman even mean? If I identify as a cake, am I really a cake? Please, define what is a woman and what is man without using circular definitions or relying on sexist stereotypes.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-05-29T02:26:33+00:00

Women can't be AGP by definition. AGPs are sexually attracted to the idea of themselves as women. Women don't need to imagine how things would be if we were women because that is already our reality. The female equivalent of autogynephillia would be autoandrophillia. However, AGPs often don't like to recognize they really aren't women, so they try to pass their sexual fantasies as normal women sexuality.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-05-09T14:06:26+00:00

Yes, "gender identity" sounds too much like "gendered" souls. So, I'd also ask them, if you enshrine "gender identity" into law, doesn't this break the separation between Church and State?

BiologyIsReal · 2021-06-17T23:35:01+00:00

Your question itself is loaded. By asking a negative "why is it not... ?" everyone who wants to answer will instantly have to start any point by defending a position your question assigns to them. A position they may not necessarily share. 2nd: In your question you equate male bodied = men instead of just using male. Here you're again injecting your own position into a question...

Like QT didn't usually do the same thing...

Nevermind. I just read the rest of your post and it continues in the same charged way by equating trans women's need for safety - which is the same desire as cis women's - to predatory behavior via the red flag bit.

It would be great if QT stop pretending this issue is about safety. If trans identified males were just worried about their safety in sex-seggregated spaces, they would accept third spaces as a solution. The fact that most of them are completely againt this compromise and insist in accessing women's spaces, in spite of women's concerns, show us that what they really want is "validation". OP has a point in what she says because, just like with other males, we cannot tell which trans males are predators and which ones aren't. Futhermore, we cannot ignore the fact that most trans males are sexually attracted to women, that most of them don't undergone any kind of genital surgery, that many of them are perfectly okay with ignoring women's boundaries (i.e. trans males accessing places like women's bathrooms, changing rooms, shelters, etcetera despite not all women are fine with this) and that many of them have no problem threatening dissenting women (and many times such threats include their "girldicks").

Maybe you can do better in your next post.

Yes, because we all know that women framing their concerns in a compassionate way can expect to be treated the same way./s If only QT would police their own half as vehemently as they police women... Where are all the articles condemning the doxing, death and rape threats, etcetera of fellow transactivists? Where are all the articles saying, no, demanding that transactivists should do better?

BiologyIsReal · 2021-09-03T15:17:00+00:00

Hey, u/Porcelain_Quetzal, good to see you want take a more active role here. At the same time, though, I question your decision of wanting to change the rules without consulting with the other mods first, especially given you've mostly absentee for months. If you've talked to us, you would have known that what you say about "cis" has not been happening at all. Given that u/grixit never updated the sidebar with the "new rules", it's not possible to enforce the rule of not using "cis". Indeed, QT users have kept using the word, both as a concept and a to refer to other users, and they have not been punished for it. Not a single time.

In other words, in practise the rules have no changed: we cannot "misgender" trans identified users, but they and other QT users can call us "cis" not matter how many times we say we are not "cis". And I still think this is not fair.

As for trans identified male or female, we need to be able to express our ideas, too, you know? The sidebar suggest natal male or female, but many users of either side were not satisfied with those terms: GC because the word natal is redundant, and QT because it still refers to sex just like trans identified male or female do.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-08-02T23:44:37+00:00

Everyone there is conveniently ignoring the fact Hubbard is 43 years old and he was by far the oldest participant in the category.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-07-11T23:42:29+00:00

For goodness sake, you already know the answer!!! Stop asking the same question over and over again! Find another question to ask for once.

BiologyIsReal · 2021-07-01T01:06:20+00:00

As far as I know the more vulnerable group of trans identified people are the ones involved in prostitution, but prostitution being a dangerous activity is unsurprising. Yet TRA are mainly in the "sex work (sic) is work" camp...

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