Newcomers: Let's make sure Saidit is better than Reddit. This shouldn't be a place to waste time, but to have productive and intelligent discussions.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T21:28:35+00:00

It was inevitable the admins would ban any sub not fitting their SJW agenda. I think the backup is /s/GenderCritical

Aureus · 2020-06-29T20:48:48+00:00

I consider myself on the right but I don't care about spreading division against anyone. Even many leftists aren't bad people. If someone wants to set up a commune, more power to them. If someone wants to be a leftist on this site, that's fine, as long as they don't want to censor others.

However, I do think that the biggest threat against freedom are super-rich "progressive" people who want to reduce national sovereignty and individual rights for the sake of "social justice". E.g. George Soros, Bill Gates, and the UN.

Aureus · 2020-08-01T22:00:57+00:00

One massive issue is young men being neglected - never being taught how to be confident, functional, self-sufficient men. Worse, modern culture isn't just letting them fend for themselves, but feeding them the wrong advice, on top of the demonization they already see.

The comments from this thread are really illuminating. Several commenters seem aware of the root cause:

Why is anime such a mainstay among these people? Not just trans people, or non-binary people, but so many people who otherwise have anxiety, depression, poor social skills, etc.? I can't say I've ever met anyone in my daily life who has a strong fondness for anime like these people. Or really anyone who has a moderately well-paying job, confidence, and good social skills.

Before transitioning to become a cute anime girl they could oh idk lose weight or build muscle, research how to dress smart, practice good hygiene, and be physically active with hobbies outside the internet and see if that helps their crippling self esteem and depression? It’s never a functional person fantasizing about this shit it’s always someone who doesn’t take care of themselves.

Compare this sound and practical advice versus the advice you might hear from the woke crowd, or even from mainstream culture:

"Men should get a moderately well-paying job" vs "Don't feel pressured to get a well-paying job, follow your passions over your career, do what you love" "Men focusing on a high-paying career is a sign of toxic masculinity"
"Men should lose weight and build muscle" vs "Looks don't matter" "Big is beautiful" "Men having to be muscular is a sign of toxic masculinity"
"Men should be physically active with hobbies outside the internet" vs "Just be yourself" "Men being into sports is a sign of toxic masculinity"

Mainstream advice pushes acceptance when it should be pushing challenge. Hearing things like "men should build muscle, men should go for that high-paying job, men should go out even if they'd rather sit inside all day" makes a lot of people uncomfortable, but it's what young men desperately need to hear.

We can have a society that treats young men with kid gloves, never tells them to do anything specific beyond "just be yourself" and "be nice", and never builds or challenges them because we're afraid of "offending" someone. Then we can watch as they drift aimlessly, never develop any skills or source of confidence, and eventually become depressed socially anxious wrecks. The trans cult offers them a way out - a way to be valued when no one else values them, not even themselves. Who can watch this happen, and then wonder why trans ideology is booming?

This Jordan Peterson video, while a bit graphic, is a good summary of what I'm getting at. But it's the opposite of what young men are hearing nowadays.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T21:48:18+00:00

Wow, incredible summary.

In reality, simply holding a centrist liberal view from circa 2005 was enough to get one branded a "far-right extremist".

100% agree with this. It's insane.

Aureus · 2020-07-12T16:42:20+00:00

I'm perfectly fine with GC. My only concerns would be if SaidIt admins themselves start banning subs or users they don't like, or if mods of "neutral" default subs start doing that. GC is within its rights

Aureus · 2020-07-10T05:42:34+00:00

To be fair... OP was posting "Libertarianism debunked" to +Libertarianism, Soviet propaganda songs to +Gardening, and "This website FUCKING SUCKS" to +General. The downvotes kind of make sense.

Aureus · 2020-08-01T20:41:48+00:00

I don't think storing dry goods and canned food is wrong. It can even be smart if you're saving money and preparing for a rainy day.

My issue is with preppers who expect a cataclysmic event to happen "any day now" and make no effort to create a life for themselves outside of that. At the very least, you should be starting a family and involving yourself in a community.

I agree that we are looking more at a slow decline rather than a sudden fall. Because of that, people should be improving themselves and their communities, and strengthening the next generation, rather than expecting everything to collapse overnight.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T22:05:23+00:00

At this point the term "hate group" is solely used to shut down free discussion, most of it harmless or even important. The new sub is at /s/GenderCritical (if you weren't already aware)

Aureus · 2020-07-08T00:59:34+00:00

People with don't want to live in a Maoist dystopia need to leave California. I don't understand why more people aren't doing it.

Aureus · 2020-07-04T01:53:59+00:00

I agree that the media is hyping it up, and the lockdowns are terrible for the economy. But there is literally no cost in social distancing or wearing a mask.

Aureus · 2020-07-01T14:34:32+00:00

I disagree. Keep using reddit, twitter, and youtube, and spread the messages you were before, for these reasons:

1) If you stop using them, you're censoring yourself worse than they can censor you. You're preventing your message from reaching the mainstream.

2) If these platforms didn't see us as a problem for them, they wouldn't be trying to ban us.

3) Using a free platform isn't the same as buying a product or service. By using these websites and blocking their ads, you are actually draining their resources rather than helping them.

Aureus · 2020-04-15T04:43:32+00:00

This is the right move. The WHO made so many mistakes, they are almost directly responsible for the current pandemic.

Aureus · 2020-07-27T18:43:15+00:00

Propaganda seeping into even hobby-focused subs is insane.

I don't see how people can still use Reddit. I think they've just got Stockholm Syndrome, where Reddit seems like the biggest forum around, and they don't know of any alternatives.

Aureus · 2020-07-15T08:52:20+00:00

OkCupid has been super-woke for a while now.

Use dating apps for what you can. I've heard Hinge is supposed to be better than OkCupid.

Good luck on your dating search btw, Lord knows we need more sane people starting families.

Aureus · 2020-06-30T02:46:35+00:00

I won't stop anyone from making a shitposting sub. They have every right to do it. But I also have every right to think it's pointless, and to express my opinion on that. All content is not created equal.

My main driver for posting this is seeing several reddit alternatives (and online alternatives in general) go down the tubes. They tend to devolve into outrage porn and edgy meme posting very, very quickly. I just want Saidit to avoid the same fate.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T20:54:34+00:00

Everyone should call their elected officials (for example you should call to stop the Lawful Access to Encrypted Data Act) but afterwards, make sure to help build alternatives and figure out ways to keep online relevance. And also don't just participate online. Connect with your local neighborhood and hometown as well.

Edit: I edited this to reflect the comment below

Aureus · 2020-07-20T16:12:58+00:00

Would you say that this counts?

Meet Marvel's First Transgender Hero: 12-Year-Old 'Mighty' Rebekah

Rebekah was only 10 years old when the Trump administration rolled back its protections for transgender students — but she, as a transgender student, felt compelled to act on behalf of herself and her community.

“I can change the world," Rebekah asserted in a new episode of Marvel's Hero Project, a Disney Plus series that profiles youth who are making a difference.

A native of New Jersey, she and her family partnered with organizations like Garden State Equality to give speeches and demonstrate that trans people are not the villains that the federal government and right-wing media make them out to be.

To enact change on a local level and change hearts and minds, Rebekah even appeared before the New Jersey legislature to lobby for Assembly Bill 1335, legislation that would mandate LGBTQ history curriculum in public schools.

“I’ve never seen myself in the history they’re teaching," Rebekah told legislators, pointing to LGBTQ figures like Harvey Milk, Marsha P. Johnson — and possibly, one day, herself — as figures that young people need to learn about.

Her voice made a difference. N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy (D) signed the bill into law in February, and LGBTQ-inclusive lessons will begin next year.

The episode of Marvel's Hero Project also shows her coming-out journey. She articulated that she was trans by age 8, when her mother outlined the LGBTQ acronym after a search for gender-nonconforming bathing suits.

Aureus · 2020-07-08T02:32:53+00:00

The state with the most votes for Trump was Texas. The second-most was Florida. The third-most was California.

There are enough conservatives in California to turn most of the country red, if they would just move.

All I can think is that these people are lazy, or solely there for the economic opportunities. But like it or not, we need them.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T20:45:08+00:00

The rampant censorship is reason enough.

Aureus · 2020-10-25T23:04:57+00:00

At least you didn't vote for Biden, but still, I don't think this accomplished much other than a protest vote.

Aureus · 2020-07-16T18:20:42+00:00

But the requirement to have a wiki article is to have a "significant article mention" so basically a MSM source needs to mention saidit at some point

I feel like this cause some serious bias issues for Wikipedia...

Aureus · 2020-07-16T16:06:07+00:00

/u/magnora7 should make one quick before someone more biased against SaidIt does.

Aureus · 2020-07-14T22:06:36+00:00

like, talk about white male privilage

The reason they are doing it is because of this idea. The idea of "male privilege" is promoted by the mainstream, and transition is pushed as a way to be free of it.

If they transition, they can't be criticized for being men, and in fact will be praised for being part of a progressive minority group. For some desperate individuals, that incentive alone is enough to even renounce their sex and mutilate themselves.

Aureus · 2020-07-10T06:55:29+00:00

I can't imagine why any sane person would still live in Seattle, or the state of Washington for that matter. People need to move out of blue states.

Aureus · 2020-07-08T02:51:48+00:00

These are just dozens of the biggest voices IMO. Regular people calling for it to stop are in the millions.

Aureus · 2020-07-20T02:41:28+00:00

Keep an eye out. Media sources are doing this everywhere. It's nuts.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T22:09:14+00:00

Agreed 100%. At this point, a boycott is absolutely essential. I'm going to use my sub /s/Activism for this purpose. Check out this thread and let me know what you think:

https://saidit.net/s/Activism/comments/5309/the_great_boycott_a_megathread_on_companies_to/

Aureus · 2020-08-17T20:47:47+00:00

I can't see how anyone would want to vote for Biden. Even liberals have admitted he doesn't have a real fanbase.

Aureus · 2020-08-01T21:15:35+00:00

Not sure if I 100% agree but that's an interesting take.

The entire concept of transitioning to a woman is based on the idea that there are innate traits associated with being a woman and if a man shows any of these traits, it's because he is actually a woman.

I know what you mean and it's a ridiculous phenomenon. "This boy is playing with dolls and likes pink? Must actually be a girl! Quick, get the plastic surgeon!" You're totally right about the various movements you describe as essentialist.

This is obviously a problem because sex is not a social construct. Sex is just your biological function.

I'd describe this as "essentialist" thought too though, at least for the purposes of my OP. Let me know if there's a better word to describe it.

Aureus · 2020-07-17T19:49:02+00:00

I was going to say... this post will turn 6 years old later this month. It has fewer than 100 upvotes, and is almost 50% downvoted. The title is specifically referring to "50 Shades of Grey", an immensely-popular book series written by a woman, which many on all sides consider to be a rape fantasy. And the author of the post puts in bold "No one here condones these instances of legitimate rape".

Not defending the post, but OP really had to dig for this one.

Aureus · 2020-06-30T05:13:05+00:00

Everyone should vote, but everyone should also organize, be involved in their community, and try to contribute to the culture.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T20:55:50+00:00

Thanks so much! This is really important and a good guide.

Aureus · 2020-08-17T06:37:42+00:00

Shit, don't mean to ruin your day but looks like the spammers are back. This time they're on a "u" name.

Their usernames are all sequential words, made around the same time. There must be a way to use that against the spammers, maybe identify and ban them pre-emptively.

Don't sweat it though, if this is keeping you up you should get some sleep. SaidIt can survive a little spam for a few hours.

Aureus · 2020-07-16T04:40:42+00:00

“This commissioner has put (her) home information out. She has declared and branded (her) a racist,” said Tom Kirkbride, an attorney for Moore, who is white.

“I will continue to protect myself against the backlash that I’m catching from the removal of the monument and the removal of the confederate flags, and I think this has everything to do with that,” said Clemmons, who is Black.

They're already doing the capitalization thing. This is the second news article I've noticed to do this. Fucking surreal.

Aureus · 2020-07-10T21:47:09+00:00

Why not vote for Trump?

Aureus · 2020-07-10T05:43:51+00:00

It's reddit, unfortunately.

Aureus · 2020-08-20T04:02:35+00:00

For those who didn't click the link, here is their response:

“Goodyear is committed to fostering an inclusive and respectful workplace where all of our associates can do their best in a spirit of teamwork. As part of this commitment, we do allow our associates to express their support on racial injustice and other equity issues but ask that they refrain from workplace expressions, verbal or otherwise, in support of political campaigning for any candidate or political party as well as other similar forms of advocacy that fall outside the scope of equity issues.”

I'd call this worse than a "non-response". It's doubling down

Aureus · 2020-08-17T06:10:04+00:00

Thank you for removing it! It looks like the spammer got tired anyways. I appreciate everything you do for the site.

If the spam resumes or gets really bad, maybe have a short-term moratorium on creating new accounts? Not a perfect fix, but it would get the job done.

Aureus · 2020-07-08T01:01:29+00:00

Is there an archive of this?

Aureus · 2020-06-21T03:28:51+00:00

"Autonomous zone" isn't a great term for what Dinesh is really suggesting. A better term would be "parallel cultural institutions".

We're in the position we're in because conservatives have gone it alone for decades, while far-leftists have gotten together and organized. Conservatives need to figure out how to find each other, organize, work together, and build institutions.

Aureus · 2021-01-07T21:06:42+00:00

First off, thank you for your response.

Who is that, and where are they? That's what we need to know, before we begin assembling the response @Aureus recommends.

You're absolutely correct. However, I don't think identifying "who" is as important as how they operate and how we can emulate that. I've seen a lot of discussions get bogged down into who the elite really are - is this public figure one of them, or are they a freethinker? You can see how that would devolve into pointless arguments and finger-pointing.

But what's absolutely vital is discussion. At least it would be better than the incessant newsposting.

I don't see the key that will allow conservatives to be coherent; it is their nature to be individual rather than committed to a common vision.

You might be right. Unfortunately I don't see a way out that involves purely individual thinking. "United we stand, divided we fall" has too much truth to it.

One of the few individual solutions I can think of would be enjoying the decline, and participating in enjoyable pursuits rather than focusing on politics. Unfortunately, mainstream conservatives doing that is one of the main reasons we're here today.

Aureus · 2020-09-06T18:16:40+00:00

Aureus · 2020-08-02T04:03:14+00:00

There are young (and old) men out there who think their feelings = reality.

That's not "self-worth", just delusion. Woke progressivism is what's giving them that delusion.

A perfect comparison would be to religious zealots. Religious zealots have been known to whip themselves, starve themselves, even kill themselves for their belief. Zealots remove all trace of their individual personality and subjugate themselves to an ideology. How can such an individual have "self-worth"? Who are they assigning worth to? Not their self - their body is harmed and their personality is subjugated to the religion they follow. Their ideology gets the worth, not their self.

Telling a zealot he has "too much ego" will not shake his belief in God. He may even agree with you, go home to whip himself some more, with his faith only strengthened because of it. His delusion is not due to too much ego, but too little. He has turned himself into an empty vessel, a blank slate, a zombie to be controlled by another. He has no personality of his own, just an ideology where one is supposed to be.

Doesn't this behavior remind you of TiMs? TiMs are complete zealots about trans ideology. TiMs destroy their bodies and brainwash themselves for this ideology. Can you really look at such a person and say, "This is a person with a lot of self-respect"?

What kind of person joins a cult? Is it usually a headstrong person who refuses to be bossed around by anyone? Or is it usually a lonely desperate person, with no self-esteem, looking for some sense of meaning in their lives and for someone to tell them what to do?

TL;DR: A male who hates himself and wants to chop off his dick does not have "too much masculine self-worth". Going after his self-worth even more will just reinforce his delusion that much harder.

Aureus · 2020-07-30T03:48:54+00:00

My take is that the "Karen" meme is ultimately negative and feels very forced. Maybe it started organically, but since then it has been twisted for sinister political ends.

Here is the original KnowYourMeme article about the "Karen" meme. Note that there are zero political references. The gist of it is that "Karen" was originally just a joke, a meme character who was always asking to see the manager. She was never depicted as evil, just an annoying fictional trope similar to the hyperactive "Kyle" character.

Compare this with the current Wikipedia article, which by contrast is absolutely insane. It's clear that "Karen" just being a meme wasn't enough. It had to be repurposed, racialized, and used as a tool (and slur) against women who question forced rules; anything from mandatory mask-wearing policies to so-called "progressive" politics.

Originally, "Karen" was just a meme. After it was repurposed by political agents, now there are actual laws dedicated to identifying and punishing "Karens". It's crazy.

Aureus · 2020-07-28T00:42:05+00:00

Don't bother debating with SJWs unless undecided bystanders are watching, who might be persuaded by what you have to say.

SJWs will never change their mind, no matter how many facts you provide. Debating them is a waste of your precious time.

Aureus · 2020-07-22T01:28:15+00:00

Maybe not legally criminal, but I'd say it goes an order of magnitude beyond "disgusting". Morally criminal? Absolutely.

A megacorporation might technically be within its rights to censor like that, but it's morally indefensible.

Aureus · 2020-07-09T00:06:30+00:00

"Reddit has crossed the line. They have succumbed to a culture of censorship. We will never forget the day they took down /r/BigChungus."

More seriously, you might just make a generic statement about censorship. You could also say how the new reddit rules openly allow hate against "the majority". You could link to /r/WatchRedditDie or /r/Reclassified.

But someone who would dismiss the censorship as "oh, well it's just right-wingers and transphobe feminists getting banned" probably can't be swayed anyways.

Aureus · 2020-07-08T17:20:12+00:00

If you're interested in boycotting these terrible companies, check out my thread here!

You can also join the Matrix chatroom here to keep the discussion going: https://riot.im/app/#/room/!KnzRAdGMqbdEjFwSXx:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Aureus · 2020-07-05T19:17:02+00:00

I think it's only there for plausible deniability. Every time I bring up reddit censoring conservatives, the rebuttal is "well uhh r/conservative is still there!"

Aureus · 2020-07-04T02:10:07+00:00

It's pretty messed up that simply stating the truth (or correcting a falsehood) can get you "targeted".

Aureus · 2020-07-03T03:18:27+00:00

Also, to respond to OP's xkcd comic, this version is a lot better.

Aureus · 2020-06-29T22:28:51+00:00

There is no point in going to Voat because you'd be preaching to the choir.

Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who understands this. Too many people push reddit alternatives without realizing they only silence you from the mainstream.

The only point in using a reddit alternative is if:

1) It starts seeing mainstream use, or

2) It functions as a place for intelligent discussion.

Voat is neither of those. They shut the door on mass appeal by being edgy and glowposting. And there's very little intelligent discussion, it's mostly just outrage porn news articles. Saidit can be better in both respects.

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