Air Pollution and its Spillover Effects on human life by insightsmanoj in Earth

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Yes air pollution is horrible but this is the wrong sub for that type of content.

Earliest roasted root vegetables found in 170,000-year-old cave dirt, reports new study in journal Science, which suggests the real “paleo diet” included lots of roasted vegetables rich in carbohydrates, similar to modern potatoes. by Anticapitalist in Vegan

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There were many "paleo" era diets, and the modern language about this (ie "the paleo diet") is just an advertising concept to push unhealthy diets of eating animal corpses.

But not all these very old diets were healthy, eg eskimos:

Eskimos have high rates of cardiovascular disease. And they always have- even hundreds of years ago - which we know because frozen bodies found of eskimo people had cardiovascular disease.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6N8CJ_Wy9c&t=5m30s


Protein and cancer.

  • "High-Protein Diet Raises Cancer Risk As Much As Smoking. People who eat a high-protein diet during middle age are more likely to die of cancer than those who eat less protein, a new study finds"

-- https://www.livescience.com/43839-too-much-protein-help-cancers-grow.html

A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him by Antifa in news

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You're still not getting it.

I'm saying the sources/estimates of population can not be trusted when people feel they must hide from persecution/prejudice.

(ie that's what is rational.)

And if you need some "authority figure" to say this (for you to consider it) then you are not being rational.

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You look at the biased population estimates of people bigoted against jews, when jews may have not been properly reporting their population.

I looked at all reports and census data.

I didn't say you didn't look at the reports or census data, I said that if people feel they are victims of persecution/prejudice they might not accurately report themselves to government population estimates.

(I said the population estimates would logically be wrong if people felt they were victims of persecution/prejudice.)

You didn't even respond to my debunk of your position.

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Your source says the lower-case “holocaust”

Don't try to save face- the word holocaust was used before the nazi holocaust.

research

You're repeating the same things I debunked already.

eg:

  • you look at the biased population estimates of people bigoted against jews, when jews may have not been properly reporting their population.

  • you simply accuse people who use higher estimates (and of quoting high estimates) of being liars & hoaxers.

  • you act like the nazis (who were hiding a genocide) would have given you the data for your "research."

Sigh.

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as such by the Bolsheviks and Soviet propganda official during the war before any real provable assertions coupd be made.

Did you not read the article I sent you?

  • The lower-case “holocaust” has described the violent deaths of large groups of people probably since the 18th century, according the Oxford English Dictionary. Before World War II, the word was used by Winston Churchill and others to refer to the genocide of Armenians during World War I.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-word-holocaust-history-and-meaning_n_1229043

And census data and all the other hindreds of population reports.

All the population data from the nazi regime should be treated with great skepticism. And even if there was population data from other sources (before and after the nazi regime) which showed the jewish population shrinking was less than 6m there could be many other reasons for that, plus sometimes the population estimates are just flat out wrong. eg if the jewish people felt they were victims of prejudice (eg in pre ww2 germany) they might not have sought to be very public about their presence, especially to the government & ruling class.

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Holocaust implies burnt offering

You've been totally misinformed, please read this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-word-holocaust-history-and-meaning_n_1229043

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Your "research" is assuming the nazi's work orders accurately showed how many people they killed when (in reality) their goal was to hide these events. You are just making assumptions.

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It's circular reasoning to say someone is "hoaxer" is evidence that their claims are a hoax. Your 'argument' here could be endless historic events where you just declare the people quoted to be hoax selling liars.

Your assumptions about how fast the nazis may have killed people are not relevant. Even if "modern" gas chambers work extremely slow, that doesn't mean a government couldn't build a much quicker system for killing many millions of people.

You're going on and on, but all you have is assumptions that you seem to believe are evidence of your other assumptions.

And your motive here, to say anything to get people to reject the holocaust, is obvious. So you attempt to show signs of "moderation" as if that hides that you are just another holocaust denier.

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That source is based on hearsay. Hoetll is known liar, hoaxer and fabricator.

Actually, practically any time a political figure is quoted (eg by people in the media) you could call it "hearsay" as long as there was no video of it.

And (in contrast) if there was audio/video of this conversation you would call it edited and fabricated "by the jews!!!1"

I showed you endless photos of the holocaust and it's train system which shows it was a massive killing system for killing many millions of people, and you deny it like "photos are a jewish conspiracy theory!!1 because jews!!11"

I even show the photos are from multiple sides (eg multiple states) and they all match.

And what is your "argument?" It's essentially this: "photos ain't real !111 Because Jews !!!1"

THis is not evidence for 6 million figure. I'm a little concerned on why you would think this is proof of the figure.

That's not even why I quoted it. There's a bunch of people saying that the number 6m was commonly used for jews for religious reasons.

But in reality.. Even if that's true (that the number 6m was used a lot by jews) that's irrelevant if the estimate of 6m jews killed came from the nazis.

Btw, in your images (about how commonly the 6m number was used) you're often just quoting coincidences.

  • eg the estimated 6m population of jews in the ukraine.

  • Or in poland,

  • etc

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LOL. DuckDuckGo world opinion on the holocaust.

Even if that was true, that ("What's popular is true") is a logical fallacy and irrelevant. Assertions are valid based on evidence and how reasonable they are.

And I have already given examples over & over again. As I said earlier, you either have honesty or you don't.

Btw, you're spinning:

  • "Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. Muslims followed closely... In no coincidence, Hindus and Muslims were also significantly less likely to have heard of the Holocaust."

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/05/the-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

There's a lot of ignorant people and that is not evidence for holocaust denial.

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because it's literally illegal to say anything else in 11 countries.

Even if that was true, then in about 185 countries you can deny the holocaust and yet almost all "trained" historians think your position is totally laughable, to say the least.

But I'm not going to assume that's true. Yes there's a few countries that have laws against flying nazi/genocide flags. Yes in germany you can't endorse naziism, and maybe a few more but I'm not going to assume it's 11.

Maybe 99% of the 'trained' historians are holocaust supporters

The language you're using is not honest- they're not "supporters" because they recognize a historic event.

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Incorrect. Really you are the revisionist according to like 99.9999% of the "trained historians" in the world. I don't mean that "the majority is true", I mean according to your own standard (people called "trained historians") that you are the revisionist.

And what is the value of your attack on the news website? Nothing. It's just a common logical fallacy used when people have no rational evidence for their beliefs.

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[emotions]

Your emotions like "lol i don't consider that guy a historian!!1" are irrelevant. Here's another source:

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holocaust-remembrance-day/6-million-where-is-the-figure-from-1.5319546

I know you'll say "but they're jews so it's all a conspiracy!11".

. Yes Jews certainly died from this war famine like everybody else

Don't lie. The people running the death camps and shooting the jewish children weren't starving like that.

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source.

Are you not reading from the like 10 times I posted it already?

  • "In the 1961 testimony, Hoettl recalled how “Eichmann … told me that, according to his information, some 6,000,000 Jews had perished until then -- 4,000,000 in extermination camps and the remaining 2,000,000 through shooting by the Operations Units and other causes, such as disease, etc.” "

https://www.academia.edu/19580380/Capstone_1

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. That's a lot of cohencidences

Actually it just has to be one coincidence. Even if the number 6m was used repeatedly by jewish people, it was a nazi estimate of the amount of jewish people they killed.

But many of the numbers brought up repeatedly (eg the estimate that there were 6 million jews in the ukraine) aren't just coincidences but mostly irrelevant coincidences.

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Again, I debunked everything these internet neo-nazis believe. eg here's some. Your long posts of evidenceless assertions are irrelevant.

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Also, you have provided zero proof for the 6 million figure.

Incorrect. Again:

YSK the 6m figure came from the Nazis themselves:

  • "In the 1961 testimony, Hoettl recalled how “Eichmann … told me that, according to his information, some 6,000,000 Jews had perished until then -- 4,000,000 in extermination camps and the remaining 2,000,000 through shooting by the Operations Units and other causes, such as disease, etc.” "

https://www.academia.edu/19580380/Capstone_1

And (also) people argue this number is based on the estimated jewish people who disappeared.

Please be more skeptical of neo-nazi propaganda.

Then be specific and debunk what I've stayed.

I did already. Look at my previous replies.

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. That doesn't prove six million people were murdered.

Again that 6m estimate of jews killed came from the nazis themselves.

Of course that was just jewish people, the total murdered was far more than that.

? None of those photos or videos show a genocide anyway.

I showed a whole bunch of photos of concentration camps earlier. These were taken from multiple sides and yet they all show the same thing. The photos showing people were being (en mass) sent on trains to the death camps is still an important part of understanding the nazi genocide.

eg this: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/dlebyd/this_is_such_a_powerful_photo_it_was_taken_in/

You either have honesty, or you do not.

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You have no evidence for your belief that the endless holocaust photos [eg this] were all photoshoped.

The photos (from many sides & states) show a matching & clear horrific genocide. And I believe many people are in denial about that. If you can not accept the endless evidence I have already posted then you will probably never accept this reality.

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You started off with a lie, twisting my words.

I said I read a significant amount of the post- I debunked part and scrolled over the rest seeing nothing but unfounded assumptions and evidenceless assertions.

I have already explained (in my various comments in this thread) how everything you just said is wrong and there is clear and absolute evidence of a genocide.

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It's not just photos, it's photos matching from different sources (eg different nations) which also match survivor testimony and match the confessions/writings of the nazis.

Please be honest and rational.

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and confirms the 6 million and confirms that they weren't starvation

Actually the people running the death camps, shooting the children, etc were not starving to death. This is all the evidence that is needed to show these were (of course) death camps.

so the burden on you to provide a reliable source that went into all the camps

Among things, it was a nazi estimate that they murdered 6 million jews. Plus it's an estimate of the people who disappeared.

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Yes I've seen that and I still haven't seen anyone mention anything of importance on it. The fact that there are various estimates, eg 6 million jews in both poland and the ukraine, appear to be nothing but a bunch of coincidences. Same with figures about poverty/etc.

The estimate that the nazis killed 6 million jews came in big part from nazi estimates.

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[personal attacks]

Thank you for surrendering the debate.

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[talking about someone personally]

That's also not a rational argument that anything I said was wrong.

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It's been very entertaining watching your generic low Iq rhetoric. You made me laugh quite a bit when you try to play the shaming card, thinking that actually works on rational whites.

/u/Zahn, your post is just a personal attack.

It's not a rational evidence-based argument that anything I said was wrong. (Just like all your other posts here.)

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Your belief is that these concentration camp photos are all some kind of jewish conspiracy theory.

You're in denial of a wide variety of photo/video evidence from multiple sides which almost entirely matches- showing the same atrocities, eg same trains (which had a bunch of jewish/etc people on them when people were freed,) and the same mass killing camps and the same mass graves.

And this photo/video evidence (from multiple sides) also matches the testimony of the survivors of the death camps, and also matches the nazi's post-war writings & stories defending their genocide.

In other words, your position is 100% not rational.

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This has GOT to be trolls at work. No one is that stupid on purpose.

IMO these nazis are very serious 😐. And they are trying to soften their language so people don't even realize they're nazis. They're growing in numbers. They form nazi circlejerks where they all pretend everything is a jewish conspiracy theory.

I have a growing folder of debunks for these people.

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Vidoes and photos have been altered since the beginning of vidoes and photos.

Well when the photos & "vidoes" of all the nations who survived attacks by the Nazi genocides all show a train system for moving huge amounts of people to genocidal death camps, I think that's pretty good evidence personally.

Maybe you're in denial of the obvious?

I'm all for questioning power & the story they tell, but sometimes you can take conspiracy too far and become totally cruel & irrational.

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I said I read part of your post (a lot of it) and scrolled over the rest, seeing no rational arguments for holocaust denial/minimalism. I looked for rational arguments for your beliefs, and I found none. Nothing.

Your attempt to say "only 600,000 were killed" is an attempt for you to act like you're not just another sadist holocaust denier, but people are not fooled by this.

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The most official report as to the number of people that died in those camps was made by the Red Cross. The 1947 Red Cross report showed the figure of 271, 301 people died in all camps during the entire course of the war and of those that died 40% were Jews.”

Again, the Red Cross said that's bullshit. The Red Cross (the ICRC) denies that they ever made those statistics:

  • "In the 1978 official bulletin, entitled "False Propaganda", the ICRC denounced Holocaust denial and confirmed that the agency "Never published—or even compiled—statistics of this kind which are being falsely attributed to it" and stated that its mission was "to help war victims, not to count them",[84][85][86] and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".[84][86] The agency states that the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed",[84][86] and accordingly bear no relation to the total death tolls,"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

Now there is a religious dogma that 6 million died, so you better believe it.

Actually that number came from the Nazis themselves.

  • "In the 1961 testimony, Hoettl recalled how “Eichmann … told me that, according to his information, some 6,000,000 Jews had perished until then -- 4,000,000 in extermination camps and the remaining 2,000,000 through shooting by the Operations Units and other causes, such as disease, etc.” "

https://www.academia.edu/19580380/Capstone_1

I've read quite a bit of your post (and scrolled over the rest) and noticed nothing but baseless assertions and irrational assumptions.

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And the 1945 ones were before the camps had even been fully liberated, how could they have such an accurate total so quickly?

Counting bodies, just after the liberation of the camps, is not even a good way to estimate.

(It only shows how many people were there at that specific time.)

YSK the 6m figure arguably came from the Nazis themselves:

  • "In the 1961 testimony, Hoettl recalled how “Eichmann … told me that, according to his information, some 6,000,000 Jews had perished until then -- 4,000,000 in extermination camps and the remaining 2,000,000 through shooting by the Operations Units and other causes, such as disease, etc.” "

https://www.academia.edu/19580380/Capstone_1

And (also) people argue this number is based on the estimated jewish people who disappeared.

Read the 1919 one specifically.

The one estimating there are 6m jewish people in the ukraine and 6m in poland? That sounds like a very standard coincidence.

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Someone posted that earlier. Here is my reply.

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You did not post proof of 6 million systematically exterminated via gas chamber or otherwise.

Even if nobody finds out the exact methods of killing, the 6 million number is based on an estimated amount of jewish people who disappeared during the nazi regime. It's entirely logical to combine the facts (disappearances, death camps, and a huge train system for abducted people) and rationally conclude there was a mass killing/genocide.

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The quote does not apply to Jews. He was talking about Shooting Poles.

Just because the police officer was located in poland doesn't imply he wasn't shooting jewish children too.

But I didn't say one counts more than the other:

Either way, the nazis were killing people they viewed as genetically inferior.

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If I say 3 million died instead of 6 million, that's not "denying the holocaust"

That's denying half the holocaust.

I'm not going to tell you what the percentage is, for who counts as a "holocaust denier", but it is totally rational to understand that at some point a person making very minimal estimates of an event is essentially denying it and should be described that way.

Also, many more types of people than just jews died, so I'm not sure why you're only focused on them.

I'm not, I spoke of the others who were killed. I am giving an example with the most common known number.

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This anecdotal example does not conclusively prove an intentional mass extermination event.

The other things I posted are clear evidence of the holocaust.

While that (a Nazi police offer admitting to killing masses of children via shooting them) is to show this was not simply some accident, or some accidental lack of food. They were shooting children.

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about the coercion that went on during the Nuremberg trials.

Even if that's true, the Nazis (outside of the trials) also defended their killing of children and genocidal ideology.

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You have made no logical argument that the holocaust did not happen.

How could all of these accounts of the war leave out, without even a cursory mention; what is today marketed as one of it's largest injustices?

You're just assuming, without any evidence, that the holocaust & vanishings were not even mentioned. I've seen them mentioned.

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Even if some of the allegations (of the nazi's actions) were not proven that is not evidence that that the event in general lacks evidence.

Be honest: the nazis, eg in their writings & statements after the war, defended their genocidal ideology. You can not deny the holocaust.

A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him by Antifa in news

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. Photos of dead people show dead people. It does not de facto validate your conspiracy theory of an intentional mass extermination event.

These aren't just bodies, these are mass killings- these are murdered people.

These people and chlidren were often shot, thrown in gas chambers, and worked/starved to death by "guards" who were not starving themselves.

A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him by Antifa in news

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I'm not the conspiracy person here: the Nazis openly admitted what they did and tried to justify it after the war, eg at the Nuremberg trials.

Nazi police officer:

  • "I made the effort to only shoot children. It so happened that the mothers led the children by the hand. My neighbor then shot the mother and I shot the child that belonged to her. Because I reasoned with myself that after all, without it's mother the child could not live any longer. It was supposed to be, so to speak, soothing to my conscience to release children unable to live without their mother."

https://youtu.be/O8UzmLsXGRU?t=1165 YouTube

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It's your "theoretical" they were wanting to kill children.

There's nothing theoretical- they shot children & spoke of it openly after the holocaust was revealed. And not only did they shoot children with guns, but they portrayed themselves as good moral people for doing it.

Nazi police officer:

  • "I made the effort to only shoot children. It so happened that the mothers led the children by the hand. My neighbor then shot the mother and I shot the child that belonged to her. Because I reasoned with myself that after all, without it's mother the child could not live any longer. It was supposed to be, so to speak, soothing to my conscience to release children unable to live without their mother."

https://youtu.be/O8UzmLsXGRU?t=1165

And they put children in death camps. You can not rationally shift the blame like this.

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and their 1 citation is a random book nobody knows about.

Wrong. Wiki referenced two books & the ICRC bulletin itself.

Btw, calling a book "random" is not evidence that the Red Cross didn't make the statement.

You can google even more sources for this bulletin, but you'd probably say "all those websites are a conspiracy by the jews and the Rothchilds."

lso, the Rothschilds have been involved with the Red Cross since its inception.

This just another conspiracy theory attempt to deny the holocaust.

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Even if the soviet's modified some photos, those aren't all soviet. There's lots of American photos, and there's also many videos of the concentration camps.

Just watch the videos of people walking around the concentration camps.

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proven by all the death camps found There is no evidence.

Have you literally never seen the photos of the nazi death camps?

Please just look at the images, eg here's some and here's some more.

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If you see:

  • about 6 million jewish people disappeared (whole families and a lot children),

  • and you see the endless photos of little kids in these prisons and piles of bodies,

  • and you see the endless photos of the death camps ,

  • and you see the huge piles of bodies,

And you're like "I wonder if they're a tiny few percentage off" that would be questioning the numbers.

If you're greatly questioning it (suggesting that 6m is greatly too high) thenyou are denying the holocaust. You're not fooling anyone.

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What if those children starved as a result of Allied bombing of food and medicine supply lines? Thusly, the U.S. in effect, killed them?

Little kids were in a prison to execute them and their families.

Please don't try to blame the people trying to defeat the Nazis based on the "argument" that theoretically a US bomb could have hurt the jews/etc.

A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him by Antifa in news

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That entire post is a conspiracy theory.

The many millions of people who disappeared in nazi germany (whether jewish, gay, etc) were killed as proven by all the death camps found, and the nazis were so incredibly evil they were even killing children. There's all sorts of records of them admitting this, and even portraying themselves as compassionate for doing it.

And again, the number of 6m was based off estimates that 6m jewish people disappeared. Even if 6m was a number used before that could just be a coincidence.

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They prove that a "certain" amount of inmates were starving and possibly suffering from disease.

There's many photos of small children in concentration camps, & even if they were starved to death that is still mass murder.

And similarly lots of children where in those giant piles of bodies found after ww2. Your holocaust denial is absolutely cruel and irrational.

A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him by Antifa in news

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it wouldn't be the first time 6 million jews died that century.

Even if those blurry newspaper texts are all real, a newspaper saying that 6 million jewish people were in poverty & hungry is not evidence that the holocaust wasn't real.

That number could just be a coincidence.

I didn't read every single blurry text in that image, but I didn't see any which said 6 million jews died of anything.

But even if 6 million jews died in some 1920s illness (or something) that could still be coincidence, it still wouldn't be evidence that the holocaust was fake.

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wikipedia proves it's real

No, The Red Cross itself was the source.

Wikipedia just hosted text about this.

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we have good numbers since the red cross was allowed observers in the camps.

The Red Cross said that's bullshit. The Red Cross (the ICRC) denies that they ever made those statistics:

  • "In the 1978 official bulletin, entitled "False Propaganda", the ICRC denounced Holocaust denial and confirmed that the agency "Never published—or even compiled—statistics of this kind which are being falsely attributed to it" and stated that its mission was "to help war victims, not to count them",[84][85][86] and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".[84][86] The agency states that the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed",[84][86] and accordingly bear no relation to the total death tolls,"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

Marou, you are denying the holocaust with out of context info. I see holocaust deniers using that same image all the time.

Maybe you read this from some neo-nazis and didn't realize how vulgar this is, but you are using the very cruel and irrational talking points of nazis.

/u/Buri, thank you for explaining that the holocaust is not a conspiracy theory.

I really hope this website doesn't get taken over by the nazi/kkk people like what happened to voat.

A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him by Antifa in news

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No one can confirm anything major about history was a factual event.

Incorrect. eg:

  1. There's lots of video/photo evidence of the concentration camps, mass graves, etc.
  2. The population of jewish people (and other people disliked by the nazis) massively dropped by many millions. In fact the estimate of 6 million jewish people being killed was in big part based on how many people disappeared.

Please do not act like these events were just a wild guess. People might not know if the germans killed 5.5m jews or 6.5m jews, but this is a well recorded factual event with a lot of evidence showing what happened.

New cereal box is 11% taller with 1.6% less cereal by [deleted] in pics

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This is seriously messed up.

Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy more consistent with homicidal strangulation than suicide, Dr. Michael Baden reveals by r721 in news

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Wow, I'm surprised this is being reported at all.

Saidit.net - New rotating banner system by magnora7 in SaidIt

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It looks beautiful, I even see [this image] in there.

Does anyone use the "MY SUBS" dropdown menu in the top-left corner of saidit? by magnora7 in AskSaidIt

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The drop down menu is just pointless imo... Should we just get rid of it?

Yes- but replace it with something better. eg a new full-screen page showing your subscriptions.

(That little bar is not big enough to show me my subscriptions.)

And it should simply have a button next to each sub- a button to unsubscribe.


I've also never used the drop down feature on reddit.

Trump believes "socialism = Stalin." But how was socialism defined by people like Albert Einstein & Harry Truman? by Anticapitalist in Socialism

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Similarly (on the topic of what these "-ism" words mean) here's what anarchism should mean:


  • Anarchism is not a system of giant corporations ruling society.

    eg big corporations like ABC, NBC, Ford, etc are constructs of government.

  • In anarchism the property systems of genocide & killing (eg killing the native americans so the 1% can own almost all the land) are not legitimate. Similarly, the basis of modern property in Europe is the mass killings where the very wealthy took the land from the public, this is not legitimate. It is an illegitimate distribution of land, where the few can profit essentially just from owning land.

    Instead (in anarchism) land is distributed in an egalitarian way, and thus there is no landless class forced to work for the land owning class. Workers would start their own businesses/co-ops on the land they personally use.

  • Anarchism is about ending violence that oppresses/exploits so we achieve a society where everyone is treated equally. But that does not mean "everyone has the same amount of stuff". There won't be totally equal social connections, work, or reward. There will be minor injustices/defects due to the randomness of birth and how society functions.

    However, without violent systems of oppression/exploitation, things will be massively more egalitarian than under the government of the billionaires & industrialists. Especially in terms of ownership of big properties like land & the means of production.

    (eg under anarchism everyone would own land, & thus almost every worker would own their means of production.)

  • Anarchism is not a system where the poor have no voice and the wealthy choose who is in power. No one should "be in power."

Saidit is back online after a few days of attacks by magnora7 in SaidIt

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but what we have now isn't typical.

👍

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I have a couple of posts from today lower down on the page, do you also?

Yes if I scrolled down enough I did.

And my current frontpage is starting to look better.

But IMO stuff from 2 days ago shouldn't be on the front page- it discourages people from checking Saidit because they keep seeing the same stuff.

Saidit is back online after a few days of attacks by magnora7 in SaidIt

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/u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr

My frontpage is not showing anything new. It's the same old stuff mostly from 1-2 days ago.

Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/YWPLTXL.png

But https://saidit.net/new/ shows tons of content being submitted.

I feel that something is not working right?

How do I claim an abandoned sub? by Anticapitalist in help

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Thank you. 🙂

HelpRedditDie by gretathroatborg in WatchRedditDie

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HelpRedditDie

Lol. ❤️ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜

Reddit is basically a whole website devoted to internet bullying.

Michael Moore: Joe Biden Is 'This Year's Hillary' by magnora7 in politics

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DNC is setting themselves up for failure with Biden,

On the entire internet I've never seen anyone who was excited about Biden.

How do I claim an abandoned sub? by Anticapitalist in help

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If the other mod isn't there, then it shouldn't matter.

I've built up many subs for multiple years (making thousands of posts) just to have some absentee guy return and take over.

eg I built up a sub for 7 years- I had endless comments and submissions in the sub.

Basically:

  • The top mod was active for one day.

  • He created the sub, submitted like 3 things, then left.

  • I was active in the sub like 2500 days. I knew everyone.

This random guy just returns and demods me, tells me if I mention his actions to anyone he'll ban me. A total bully.

And it's not just me, it's the norm. It's a common horror story I've heard from lots of other mods.


Reddit Request.

On reddit, if a mod is gone for 2 months then you can request the sub. Magpie has been gone for a whole year. So I think it's extremely fair to request he be removed.


Promotion.

And I've been planning to promote this sub on reddit, but I've been waiting until this guy is removed.

I don't want to build this up and have it happen yet again. It just keeps happening, over & over, and over.

Please help me.

How do I claim an abandoned sub? by Anticapitalist in help

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Hey /u/d3rr.

I'm responding about requesting an abandoned sub. A few months ago you said:

What if we worked something out like user for 2 weeks... second mod for 90 days, then top mod after that?

An update:

  • /u/Magnora7 made me the 2nd mod.

  • I've been second mod for over 90 days.

  • And the top mod (magpie) has been gone for a year now.

So may I please become the top mod in /s/AntiPsychiatry? Thank you.