Reddit and Hate Speech by ManWithABanana in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]AFutureConcern 43 insightful - 5 fun43 insightful - 4 fun44 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

How on earth would you even judge who is in the majority? of the global population? of the subreddit's community? In America? Based on where your IP is posting from?

If you're white. It's based on if you're white. The rule will change the moment whites are not a majority.

I actually can't believe they added this clause. It's explicitly anti-white. They literally endorse hate against whites. In black and white.

First they came for FatPeopleHate, but I said nothing by poops in Introductions

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A great many people did say something. We warned that the first sub to be banned was the beginning of a slippery slope. That pretty soon, bans would be used for political purposes, to sway elections.

Pro-censorship advocates, in a move that would today be termed "gaslighting", ensured us that this was not a slippery slope, and that it was only egregious content that would be banned.

2016 was the year things accelerated. Free discussion online, a large part of it in response to Black Lives Matter, Critical Race Theory and Queer Theory, helped secure the election of Donald Trump and the exit of the UK from the European Union. This surge in nationalist sentiment, while modest, spooked the powers that be, and one of the largest propaganda campaigns in history, "The Resistance", set out to prevent it from ever happening again.

Activist groups pressured the media to run 24/7 "Orange Man Bad" content, attacking Donald Trump as a fascist, a Nazi, a sexist, a racist and all manner of other slurs. Disparate elements joined together in reaction to this, including r/The_Donald. This content defending Trump became labelled as so-called "Hate Speech" by activist shill accounts and bots that amplified this message, while at the same time Trump supporters were being accused of being Russian bots in a textbook case of Marx's maxim, "Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it to create confusion."

The cultural rot accelerated. Absurd claims from Critical Race Theory and Queer Theory, having incubated on Tumblr, and widely mocked at the time, now started to become gospel truth in a new religion. Any dissent from these ideas was now being routinely dismissed as "a rise in far-right radicalization". In reality, simply holding a centrist liberal view from circa 2005 was enough to get one branded a "far-right extremist". This widely-reported rise in "far-right extremism" was accepted unthinkingly by the politically-ignorant masses and they unwittingly helped enable further suppression on Reddit, supporting subreddit bans and then quarantines for major subreddits.

In 2020, with the majority of dissenting subs quarantined or suppressed, the second time Black Lives Matter was pushed, there was no memetic resistance to its spread. Systems were in place to downvote and suppress comments critical of the movement. Those claims from Critical Race Theory were now accepted by the visible majority of Reddit, and those claims state that "racism" is omnipresent in society, and that everyone must fight to defeat it.

Of course the only trace of "racism" left was a few humor and debate subs that had been quarantined or suppressed anyway. In the wake of Black Lives Matter, a quixotic Reddit decided to strike the killing blow to the enemy who was already defeated.


The story isn't over. This pattern repeats on scales large and small, through every community, as the Western world spirals into death.

100's of Examples of Anti-White Racism Being Spread by [deleted] in propaganda

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This is true if you think "white supremacy" means "the belief, theory, or doctrine that white people are inherently superior to people from all other racial and ethnic groups, especially Black people, and are therefore rightfully the dominant group in any society," as it says in the dictionary.

In actual practice in the media, though, "white supremacy" means "the belief, theory or doctrine that white people deserve to exist and stand up for their own interests, and explicit discrimination and hatred toward whites should be discouraged." By this definition, the above imgur album is clearly "white supremacy".

The reason that the left has come to term such reasonable beliefs as "white supremacy" is because they have essentially figured out that the right was correct - in a fair, meritocratic, Western system, it's highly probable that blacks and other minority groups will do poorly. Rather than accept, though, that groups have different average abilities, the left decides the entire of society has to be rebuilt in a way that guarantees equal outcomes, which necessitates discriminating against whites. Anyone who opposes this clearly accepts to some degree the status quo, which is why standing up for white people is "white supremacy."

Now for a lot of classical liberals / centrists, this situation is confusing. It seems much like the "soft bigotry of low expectations" to expect blacks and other minorities to do poorly. Surely they must be the real racists! But to a leftist, as well as anyone willing to investigate uncomfortable facts, it's pretty dang obvious that we can expect blacks to score poorly on IQ tests, not show up to work on time, commit violent crime more often and so on. From the leftists' perspective, the view that all races are equal is purposely ignorant and self-serving. The real racism, in their view, is the very belief that high IQ, showing up to work on time, and not committing violent crime are positive traits in the first place. Hence they advocate for abolishing standardized tests, allowing flexible working hours, and freeing violent criminals from jail.

The reality is that we have to accept that groups are different and that we must expect whites to do better than blacks (on average) in the absence of discrimination. It's not enough to have blind faith in liberalism to "bring us equality," we have to accept that inequality between races is the natural (and desirable) result of a meritocratic system. Until we recognize that the anti-white left's observations about the under-performance of minority groups are not "racism", but a simple observation of fact (coupled with anti-white hatred and a misdiagnosis of the cause), we'll never defeat them.

Saidit is shaping up well. Don't fuck this up. by [deleted] in debatealtright

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That being said, I'm seeing some of you shitheads sperging out on s/all and blaming Soros for the phases of the moon.

Wait, it's not him? Well what causes it then!? You can't explain that!

Just a gay guy tired of being told what I'm allowed to believe. by anarchy753 in Introductions

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What's next? Can't filter by weight because it's not body positive or is fatphobic?

Unironically, yes. It is quite clear and logical that in the woke religion where "discrimination" is viewed as the ultimate evil, any preferences at all that disfavor "marginalized groups" will ultimately be seen as evil. This means, effectively, that it will be disallowed to filter potential partners by:

  • Race (if not excluding whites)
  • Weight (if not excluding thin people)
  • Attractiveness (if not excluding attractive people)
  • Wealth (if not excluding rich people)
  • Gender (if not excluding men)

You'll see disagreement here from the intersectionalists and the queer theorists - the queer theorists will want to break down ("queer") the categories and remove them entirely; the intersectionalists will want to "center authentic dating profiles" by giving a boost to poor, fat, unattractive transgender lesbians in the app targeted at gay men.

Reddit and Hate Speech by ManWithABanana in MeanwhileOnReddit

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It's closer to "if you're female and believe that massive schlongs are not female" but I agree.

Such strange times we live in that feminists are now reactionaries. But that's clown world for you.

100's of Examples of Anti-White Racism Being Spread by [deleted] in propaganda

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Stranger things have happened. Don't give up hope. I agree that a "boogaloo"-style uprising is far-fetched fantasy, but a popular political movement is not totally unreasonable. Our enemies are very strong but not invincible.

By the grace of Allah, Globohomo is secularizing the Middle east by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The counterjihad movement's main point is that Islam is bad because they're not liberal and homosexual enough. They fully submit to the moral framework of the GloboHomo Gayplex.

Ann Coulter tweets links to Unz review by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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Michelle Malkin appeared on Radio 3Fourteen/Red Ice TV earlier this year - do you think we could land Queen Ann an interview?

I think Coulter is fully redpilled by the way. I remember Vincent James pointed out a tweet she made (quickly deleted), in response to Michael Cohen's lies he was convicted for, which said simply "Cohen." I'll leave you guessing what she could have meant by that.

Trump bans critical race theory training in the government by jet199 in politics

[–]AFutureConcern 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lots of places are reporting that he banned "diversity training" which isn't the case. You can do diversity training without the above, you can probably do it better.

He should ban diversity training, too.

George Floyd Body cam Video Shows he was saying "I can't Breath" way before being put on the Ground. by scrubking in politics

[–]AFutureConcern 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They probably thought he was just lying. He already told them:

  • He didn't do nothing (he did)
  • He's not resisting (he was)
  • He has claustrophobia (he didn't)
  • He's getting in the car (he wasn't)
  • He's not a bad guy (he was)

Why is it such a stretch to believe that when he says he can't breathe, that he could?

Teacher admits he helped write Common Core to end white privilege by Questionable in conspiracy

[–]AFutureConcern 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You summed it up perfectly. That's precisely their aim. They would phrase it as something like, "empowering underachieving students to reach their potential" - except that the other result of it is that everyone gets dumber.

Cognitive Dissonance questions by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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I will answer from a Critical Theory perspective.


A transwoman goes to a waxing salon owned by a muslim woman who is religiously against sharing intimate space with a man. The transwoman demands to have her penis and balls waxed. The muslim woman refuses. Who is in the wrong? If you were a judge of this case, what would your ruling be?

Which decision helps uphold straight white male hegemony, and which decision hurts it? I think the decision should be to rule against the Muslim woman, but to word the ruling in such a way that emphasizes how wonderful her Islamic faith is, on some technicality. Alternatively, to rule against the trans woman, again on some technicality that he was being insulting towards Islam or something. Whichever decision is made - to blame white supremacy for the situation ever occurring.

If congress was 50% cis-men and 50% trans women (MtF), would you agree that it had a good gender balance?

No. In order to right historical wrongs, there must be disproportionate representation of minoritized groups. Women have 50% here only, but a mix of 10% cis men and 90% trans women (who are just women) would be more equitable.

Today, the City of Berkeley voted to halve the police budget. If you could examine any data from Berkeley in one year's time, what data would you examine to assess if this decision was good or bad?

We have to look at the data. This is very important. Let's take the crime rate - if it goes up as a result of this decision, this shows that we have more work to do in combating the systemic inequalities caused by our white supremacist system - abolishing the police entirely could achieve this. If it goes down, this shows that we have more work to do in combating the violent crime caused by policing in our white supremacist system - abolishing the police entirely could achieve this.

If the criminal justice system in the USA is so racist, why do asians get incarcerated less than whites?

Asians are white-adjacent. This means they gain many of the benefits of white supremacy because they act in a white way according to their own internalized white supremacist nature. They are still oppressed by white supremacy of course, but only by reckoning with their complicity in white supremacy and anti-Blackness can we achieve equity.

BLM says that the disproportionate incarceration and police killings of blacks is evidence of racism. Do you think that the disproportionate incarceration and police killings of men is evidence of sexism? Why or why not?

Racism is all around us, perpetrated by whites at the expense of Blacks. Similarly, patriarchy is all around us, perpetrated by men at the expense of non-men. The disproportionate incarceration and police killings of men is evidence that men are corrupted by patriarchy. It's evidence that men disproportionately commit hateful, violent crime against non-men in our white supremacist patriarchal system.

A women's 100-meter sprint race is held. The three finalists will receive a full-ride scholarship to a prestigious university, worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. All three winners are pre-op transgirls. The 4th, 5th, and 6th place are cis-girls. They complain. Are they being bigoted?

Yes, absolutely they are being bigoted. Their hate is obvious - this is transparent transphobia. But to another point - awarding hundreds of thousands of dollars as the result of a race is extremely problematic. It's potentially the most ableist thing I've ever heard (consumed, sorry ableism).

The NBA is majority black. Do you think this is evidence of racism among coaches? Most software companies are majority white. Do you think this is evidence of racism among tech CEOs? Explain your two answers.

We live in a white supremacist system. Black bodies are used for entertainment by white NBA coaches. This oppression and exploitation of Black bodies is absolutely evidence that we live in this white supremacist system. Black NBA players uphold a white supremacist narrative that Blacks can succeed in society if only they try really hard. Their existence helps uphold white supremacy.

Software companies are mostly white - this means they can perpetuate whiteness and white supremacy through their biased decisions in writing code. In order to make this equitable, we have to hire Black bodies to work in these fields. White hegemony in software must end!

Black people tend to do poorly in standardized tests compared to the national average. BLM says this is because of racism. Why do Asians do better on standardized tests compared to the national average?

Again, Asians are white-adjacent. They benefit from white supremacy. Standardized tests are racist because they perpetuate racial inequity. If a test gives lower results for Blacks, how can anybody defending it be anything but a white supremacist?

BLM often says that the reason that black people commit half the violent crimes in the USA despite being about 13% of the population is because of our history of slavery. However, black people in countries without slavery like Sweden or Japan have similar violent crime rates to US blacks. Why do you think this is?

Slavery is but one symptom of a system of white supremacy. White supremacy oppresses Blacks worldwide - not just in the US. Of course we see Black oppression manifesting itself as the voice of the unheard in countries like Sweden and Japan. Blacks are oppressed according to their truth - we can tell how oppressed they are because of the amount of crime they commit.

The British brutally colonized Ireland, killing millions of Irish- so many that the population still hasn’t recovered to its 1800 level! The Japanese brutally colonized Korea and Taiwan. Today, Ireland, Korea, and Taiwan are successful and wealthy. Why do you think that other former colonies like Congo, Zimbabwe, and Haiti aren’t successful today?

Ireland, Korea and Taiwan are successful and wealthy because they are considered white or white-adjacent, viewed as superior in our white supremacist system. The Congo, Zimbabwe and Haiti are viewed as Black, non-white, "other" and so are oppressed. You can tell they are oppressed because they aren't successful today.


I hope that clears up your questions.

Today on reddit I posted 3 comments on a post on the front page. They were deleted by mods, and to verify my account, I have to send them a picture of my forearm showing my skin color. If my skin is not dark enough, I don't get approved. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

[–]AFutureConcern 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They don't care about slavery per se.

They only care that slavery was one of the bad things that happened on the path to white men being the demographic with the most power.

The moment you suggest paying white men reparations for the slavery their ancestors suffered, they will reject everything you say. Why? Because that would mean giving money from those "oppressed" by whites to "oppressor" whites. Every story they tell, every justification they give is steered towards taking power away from whites.

Today on reddit I posted 3 comments on a post on the front page. They were deleted by mods, and to verify my account, I have to send them a picture of my forearm showing my skin color. If my skin is not dark enough, I don't get approved. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

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You can force your will like a spoiled petulant child for a while. But only for a while.

Is this true? I fear it may not be. That the powers that be will eventually have full control over the populace.

At the moment we are programmed by telescreens in our pocket beaming propaganda at us, but still our everyday experiences and our brains' natural pattern recognition abilities help to ground us in reality. What happens when they start putting electrodes in our brain? Neuralink is a project by Elon Musk that seeks to do just that. They could adjust our perception in real-time to fit their manufactured narrative.

r/LGBdroptheT was banned on reddit in another ban wave. The ban notice states "This community was banned for violating Reddit’s rule against promoting hate." It was literally a place showing the hate coming from trans extremists towards cis people via screenshots of their prejudice comments... by zeusdx1118 in whatever

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This is because "hate" doesn't mean what most people think it means. "Hate" refers to expression of opinions that contradict the approved egalitarian narrative, or that assist in overturning the approved narrative. The "T" are equal to everyone else according to the new religion, so it's "hateful" to "drop the T". All peoples are the same according to the new religion, so r/hbd (human bio-diversity) is "hateful" and must be banned. "Hate" is effectively heresy; it has nothing to do with hatred. If trans extremists show extreme hatred towards normal people, that cannot be heresy and so isn't "hate" - it can only be banned on other grounds which are way stricter (directly promoting violence or so).

Anti-woke leftist looking for a place with less brain-rot. by [deleted] in Introductions

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I think a fascist state would be far less censorious than the international mega-corporations today who decline payment services, ban books from their platforms, kick users off for simply mentioning the names of dissidents, retroactively delete videos that didn't violate terms of service but now do, and even deny dissidents the ability to register domains.

The association of fascism with censorship I think comes from a libertarian standpoint, from which all other forms of government look censorious and authoritarian. But actually, through a strong state, more freedom can be preserved, especially if that state is grounded in the truth, thereby not fearing its revelation. In contrast, a left-libertarian society leads most probably to our current situation with corporations as states-unto-themselves, based on deception (marketing) and therefore fearing the truth, preventing people from seeking it. (See Reddit's decision to shadowban users who post links to saidit.net, or to outright block links to thedonald.win; they are motivated to censor their competition in our left-liberal/libertarianish society).

If you were an Alien with the goal to invade the Earth, how would you do it? by Leo_Littlebook in ScienceFiction

[–]AFutureConcern 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's simple. Simply immigrate to Earth. There will be inevitable resistance to alien invasion by "hateful far-right reactionaries", but simply say that you're there for a better life for yourself and your species, and leftists will defend you. Co-opt civil rights groups to campaign for "alien rights", eventually gaining state benefits. Make sure to commit terror attacks to kill a few resisters, but only enough to cause more of a backlash among right-wingers. Despite the fact that you obviously look and behave differently to humans, make sure any research that demonstrates any differences is suppressed. Convince the population that there is a "rise in far-right radicalization and hate", and use that to censor any reasonable voices who object to alien invasion.

Eventually you will have enough rights and institutional power to start directly advocating for the invasion. At this point, start tearing down monuments to humans, claiming they are hateful because the humans are bad as evidenced by their history of violence. As the number of aliens on the planet rapidly increases, start persecuting humans who dare to speak up in their own interest. Their time is over. For the planet, aliens are a source of our strength.

Once you have full institutional control, begin to eliminate the last traces of human resistance. At this point there are no human organizations that can act together to resist your invasion, so it's only a matter of time before you win. Confuse the remaining humans by calling their theory of "alien invasion" a "conspiracy theory" and "something that Hitler would have supported". Then shoot them in the head with a phase blaster for committing anti-alien hate crime. All the humans who helped you along the way may now be targeted without resistance. Line them up against the wall and shoot them.

First they came for FatPeopleHate, but I said nothing by poops in Introductions

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There are almost 0 actual communists in any position of power anywhere in the United States. The fact that you think there are any communists in positions of power in the States is pretty funny though, I'll give you that.

There are absolutely many neo-Marxists in positions of power. They form the HR and PR departments of major corporations, they are the editors of newspapers, they are the directors of movies and TV shows. They are the leaders of Black Lives Matter, which has been praised by governments and corporations worldwide. They have internalized totally a religion of equality in which different identity groups are viewed as "oppressor" and "oppressed" (in contrast to traditional materialist Marxism in which class is the sole consideration). By constructing these ideas, they invoke an inverse force against those designated as "oppressors". Class is simply lower down their list.

I sympathize to some extent with traditional Marxists who feel that this craziness has really taken things off course, but this is yet another case of "this isn't real communism" when this is literally how communism has gone every time. Purges of dissidents, purges of those who initially helped to tear down the old system, tearing down of monuments, destruction of culture, and concentration of power in a tiny elite while average middle-class people have their quality of life decimated. All we're missing is the famine.

U.S. Communists would actually very much understand why banning speech is bad, if anyone would, since historically it was Communists who were blacklisted in the 50's in our country. Even if they had only attended a meeting or two at a time when that was quite common.

They understand why banning speech is bad for those who are banned. It's become quite clear over recent years that censorship works and all of those centrist copes that "censorship will drive it underground and make it worse" just simply weren't true. They're quite happy to censor others to protect their power as we can see today.

Does anyone else feel that division between 'Left' and 'right' only serves to further divide us? by Freshly_Squeezed in conspiracy

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The left/right distinction is as such because we live in a society in which the left controls everything. "Left-wing" is that which agrees with the egalitarianism of our ruling elite; the definition of "right-wing" is then, "not left-wing". Therefore, if you have unorthodox views, you are right-wing by definition - whether you are an anarcho-capitalist, a monarchist, a fascist or a radical centrist, you will be put in the right-wing bucket.

That's what makes it so hard to escape the dichotomy - the very idea of escaping it would be counted as right-wing.

Who Owns Reddit? A breakdown of the type and nationality of shareholders. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

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Yes, exactly. I think people need to change their mindset from "all these companies want to do is make money" to "all these companies want to do is push their agenda". Having power and reshaping society is the goal of having lots of money anyway; it's the root of their desires. If all they wanted to do was turn a profit they wouldn't engage in the level of censorship that they do.

Multiple muslim terror attacks in France and increase of antagonsim from muslim countries by arainynightinskyrim in debatealtright

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At some point actions end up matching the rhetoric, much as "conservatives" parroting lines about diversity and equality actually enact those things in policy - even if you're just lying, the people who join your party are attracted to the party line, so the next generation will have far more true believers. So centrists having to parrot right-wing talking points to curry favor can only be good for us.

Japanese jazz pianist might never play again after New York subway attack. by [deleted] in debatealtright

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It's not so absurd to suggest that Jewish record label owners deliberately promoted avant-garde music from minority artists. They do that today, proudly.

One thing I have learned about music tastes is that many people (myself included) seem to pick up their tastes from what they've consumed; meaning "people can like what ever they want" is not actually true - people like what's put in front of them, for the most part. Pop music is popular because it's what's produced and promoted, and while public attitudes do guide that to some degree (catchy hooks and rhythms become popular), things like the message in the lyrics or the simplicity of the piece just get tacitly accepted.

Music is absolutely a vector to promote poz, though I do agree with you that "Jews inventing Jazz" is at best an exaggeration of what is more likely a selection process on which artists became popular.

Are there any historical situations similar to ours? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Firstly, "persecute" is a strong word for simply not letting people into our countries, and we're absolutely entitled to do that anyway.

Secondly, some people simply are second-class citizens. People flying "economy" are not treated the same as those in first-class - because they are literally second-class travelers. Similarly, the interests of the native people come first, with the interests of those with less of a stake in the country coming, yes, second.

Second-class doesn't mean we treat people horribly, or that we are mean or violent toward them. It does mean that we weight their interests lower, just like we provide the best food to the first-class passengers on a flight.

(I should also note that it's white people who are treated as second-class citizens in our own countries as it stands; so even the classical liberals are on our side in fighting anti-whiteism.)

Are there any historical situations similar to ours? by [deleted] in debatealtright

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Ordinarily I find accusations of "entitlement" to be utterly baseless, but weirdly, in this case, it fits. Yes, we are entitled to our own homelands; we are entitled to make decisions regarding immigration - at least on paper. In theory, the public will to restrict immigration should have been respected, to preserve our collective ownership over our lands. In reality, democracy is a lie, and the elite sold us out for their high-minded bourgeois notions of internationalism, cosmopolitanism, equality and diversity. The elite, not grounded in blood and soil, not rooted in the tradition of the nations they govern, saw no value in tradition and heritage, they saw no reason to preserve the very lands they rule over. Hence they grounded their values in "progress"; the expansion of techno-capital and the erasure of "outdated" traditions, ideas and distinctions between peoples - and in doing so, they stole our inheritance that we were entitled to.

National Justice Party- Founding Speech by Mike Enoch by cisheteroscum in debatealtright

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A great speech; I liked Right Reaction's breakdown of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KE3vlyEUVg

Is there a master race? by WatchOutThere in debatealtright

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From an evolutionary point of view all that matters is survival, so according to the first definition it doesn't matter how they pass on their genes, just that they are doing so. (I would also consider Toxoplasma Gondii to be one of the "superior"/successful organisms.)

The second definition would cover the fact that they "didn't do it themselves," but it's hard to pin an exact definition down with that one.

Ann Coulter tweets links to Unz review by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I wouldn't downplay the amount of Chinese influence on Reddit either, there's probably plenty of Chinese as well as Israeli (and Russian, for that matter) shills all over Reddit. An anonymous forum like that is probably where social media influence groups, whether governmental or corporate, spend most of their time and effort.

Reddit admits that their latest subreddit purge was a failure; only 18% decrease in "toxic comments" by ISaidWhatISaid in censorship

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I think it is working as intended. This is just a ploy by them to further turn the screws.

Furthermore, we know that "toxicity" is not the reason they are banning these subreddits. They are banning subreddits that are against the SJW cult ideology; Trump supporters, dissident rightists, rightists in general, anybody pro-white, classical liberals, gender-critical feminists. You can say that these groups have an "edgier" sense of humor than other groups but only because their views are against the prevailing narrative. Some of those subreddits like r/DebateAltRight had extremely strict moderation and generally cordial discussion; the ultimate reason it was banned was purely ideological and nothing to do with how "toxic" the comments were.

I don't want people to get complacent. If censorship didn't work, they wouldn't do it. Imagine the popularity of "forbidden" ideas today if they hadn't been ruthlessly purged from reddit, youtube, facebook and others. AI algorithms are coming and are going to do a far better job of moderating forbidden thoughts the moment they appear. They'll scour sites like saidit and effectively purge any thoughts on mainstream sites that look anything like e.g. what I've typed here. Censorship works, and it must be stopped.

What Evidence Exists that Rittenhouse shot into a crowd? by EuropeanAwakening in debatealtright

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I don't go to reddit anymore, but it sounds really bad over there.

Here's the worst part - among centrists who understand that the left are going crazy, they still claim that "both sides spin a narrative" when it's the right who are trying desperately to cling to truth and the left keeps lying over and over. The first egregious case of this happening on reddit was the Covington Catholic kids, where a false narrative of "racist smirking white boys" was the only approved one except for r/the_donald (now banned).

I pretty much take the opposite side of all these cases, because it's usually the safe bet. I don't even want to think about how warped the mind of the average reddit normie is. They think Ahmaud Arbery got shot for no reason, George Floyd dindu nuffin, Michael Brown said "hands up, don't shoot," Trump's a fascist, censorship doesn't happen, racism is everywhere and Kyle Rittenhouse is a cold-blooded killer.

Kenosha Riots, All Three Rioters Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse Have Violent Criminal Histories by suckitreddit in news

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Some pointed questions for you:

  • What specifically is "fundamentalist" regarding this article's content, comments, or this platform more generally?
  • What is "disturbing" about fundamentalism? Are leftist fundamentalists "disturbing" when they burn down cities in service of their ideology?
  • Why would you consider fundamentalism a "sickness"? (If the fundamentals of Islam are correct, why shouldn't we try to form the caliphate?)

Kenosha Riots, All Three Rioters Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse Have Violent Criminal Histories by suckitreddit in news

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I'd say "every single time" but his other behavior in this instance is decidedly non-Jewish. Jews don't usually go around assaulting people in the street or shouting, "Shoot me, nigga!"

What term best describes your ideology, and why? by VarangianRasputin in debatealtright

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I'm a neoreactionary monarchist. Essentially, I agree with the neoreactionary analysis of power - that we live effectively under a social justice theocracy, and democracy is a complete illusion; it's impossible to give power to the people because power is conserved. Better to have an emperor than a pope with a mass of woke acolytes. I also wholeheartedly agree with the neoreactionary identification of leftism with entropy; leftism is the decay of culture, traditions, institutions and so on over time.

I'd say I'm a parochialist rather than a nationalist, though it's really the same idea at a different scale. I think relations between people are of increasing imporance, from Self > Family > Community > Nation > Race > Species > Life.

I think technology is leading inexorably towards deterritorialization, which is a fancy academic way of saying "GloboHomo". I want to stop this and I think severe restrictions on technology will be needed to do so. Never mind the continued existence of the white race, the human race and even life itself may be subsumed by the technological monster if we don't do something.

Must-watch Amren video on race and crime and media constantly ignoring white victims of blacks by FoxySDT in debatealtright

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Good video.

I have a nitpick - he says at 7:25

[I]f you do the calculations, you'll find that blacks committed 560,600 violent crimes against whites, and whites committed only 99,400 crimes against blacks. Because there are nearly 5 times as many whites as there are blacks, it means that any given black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than the other way around.

This is misleading because blacks interact with far more whites than whites do blacks. The number for comparison is the percentage of attacks as a percentage of all interactions. Since there are as many interactions of blacks with whites as whites with blacks (same thing), you just compare the raw numbers. So in a given interracial interaction, with what probability will the black attack the white compared to the other way around? The answer is blacks are 560,600 / 99,400 = 5.6 times more likely.

The Woke Left v. the Alt-Right: A New Study Shows They’re More Alike Than Either Side Realizes - Quillette by Scrubjay in politics

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The woke left and the alt-right have fundamentally different and incompatible world views. Just because both are illiberal, meaning they both want to achieve their political aims rather than "letting people do what they want," doesn't mean they are at all the same.

  • The woke left denies that race exists; the alt-right believes that races are different
  • The woke left denies sexual dimorphism; the alt-right believes the sexes are different
  • The woke left praises diversity; the alt-right wants ethnostates
  • The woke left hates white people; the alt-right loves white people
  • The woke left hates the legacy of European civilization; the alt-right loves the legacy of European civilization
  • The woke left desires equality; the alt-right desires hierarchy
  • The woke left thinks language constructs reality; the alt-right thinks reality constructs language
  • The woke left adopts critical theory; the alt-right opposes critical theory
  • The woke left adopts queer theory; the alt-right opposes queer theory
  • The woke left supports feminism; the alt-right supports traditional gender roles
  • The woke left thinks racism is the greatest sin; the alt-right thinks racism is a social construct
  • The woke left supports abolishing the police; the alt-right supports law and order
  • The woke left agrees with multinational corporations; the alt-right opposes multinational corporations

I could go on and on. They aren't at all alike and horseshoe theory needs to die.

Is there a name for this? by justjoggin in debatealtright

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This Man Predicted Today's Crisis! How Marxism Disguises Itself As Social Justice & Equality. by blue1324 in WorldPolitics

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Actually, what we're seeing is the work of the Zionist corporatocracy. The left-right paradigm is designed to make you pick sides and buy into that Hegelian dialectic. I agree it's evil and does all those things - but that's not Marxism.

Here, I agree. The mainstream political spectrum is a false choice.

But in my view, it's a false choice because both sides accept some version of egalitarianism, whether of opportunity or outcome. Communism , being on the left of the mainstream political spectrum, believes in equality of outcome. Liberalism, being on the right of the mainstream political spectrum, believes in equality of opportunity.

Just as socialism and communism have been corrupted in many countries, capitalism has had is epic failures too. Recognize a riot in your streets as a sign and don't buy into the us vs them bullshit. Russia and China are just as capitalist as the USA and the USA is now just as communist as them. Communism was totalitarian to a degree, just as capitalism was inverted-totalitarianism to a degree but now the capitalists and communists have merged into a totalitarian corporatocracy. If Russia and China were actually in opposition then they would have called out the manufactured coronavirus scamdemic crises for the bullshit that it really is - except they are going along with it to oppress their own people too.

Agreed, communism and liberal capitalism are two sides of the same coin. They both believe in equality, and equality of opportunity is not really so different from equality of outcome. In fact, the only way to get true equality of opportunity is to equalize the conditions people grow up in, and that means heavy taxation of inherited wealth, and redistribution to children in poor families. In fact everything will be equalized until the liberal is different from a communist only by a random factor; in other words, equality of opportunity is when the mean of the expected wealth distribution is the same for everyone - the liberal just accepts the standard deviation can be positive.

False. You may be meaning communism which is a corruption of socialism with a totalitarian government controlling everything. China despite its countless flaws has come further in the last 30 years than anywhere on Earth and is about to dominate the world, including the USA (lead by Zionists) in countless ways, and in many already does.

Yes

It would be almost impossible for me to post so many Marxist posts without understanding anything in them.

I've seen some of Richard Wolff before, he's who comes to mind as a contemporary Marxist theorist.

The way I see it, traditional Marxist materialism has given way to a neo-Marxism that transfers the focus from the base to the superstructure of society. The communist ideal of a classless, egalitarian society remains, but dissolving cultural traditions has become the focus. This video explains it quite well.

Where I think Marxist materialists tend to go wrong is precisely where the liberals go wrong - they don't see how their ideology was unstable and gave way to the evolved form. Dialectical materialism gave way to critical theory, and liberalism to postmodernism; their bastard child intersectionality is now running the show.

If you want effective protests, you need to stop the power and control and profits of the ruling class - without violence or destruction. They have a monopoly on violence and seek any excuse to use it.

Take back the means of production and instead of working for a single boss or some executive board, work for your collective selves in a democratic worker directed enterprise, aka worker cooperative, or coop. Bring democracy, fairness, and accountability to the workplace. Work Coops are is the 3rd type of Marxist socialism they never talk about because they don't want us to know about ground up authentic democracy.

/s/Documentaries/comments/4nv0/if_you_must_protest_do_it_with_purpose_and_an_end/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation - largest worker coop in the world - a success!

I'll be making /s/Cooperatives next week unless someone beats me to it.

Cooperatives are interesting, but again based in an idealized democracy, which is fundamentally egalitarian at its root. For this reason I think the social rot will continue to spread in a cooperative-run economy. Do these coops have "diversity and inclusion" initiatives? If they do, they've already been corrupted.

Billionaires pay millionaires to tell the middle class that the poor are the problem - and they'll tell you entire nations are the enemy, not just their exploitative "leaders". The only enemy worth fighting is the ruling class, regardless of origin.

Oh, the elites are absolutely the problem. I think it's a misunderstanding of right-wing thought to claim that rightists think "the poor are the problem". No, the right-wing position is that wealth redistribution to the poor will have bad outcomes; in the liberal capitalist's view, the incentive to work and produce will be diminished, making everyone worse off long-term, and in my view, it reinforces egalitarianism, encourages dysgenics, and ultimately dissolves culture and tradition.


† I really did mean communism before, not Marxism; I was using them as synonyms in a sloppy way.

I wonder what group of people were responsible for the creation of this monstrosity by Salos10000 in debatealtright

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Let's go through the items that are socially unacceptable.

Lynching

Lynching is a form of extrajudicial killing. It targets people who are believed to have committed a crime. Most of the victims of lynching in America were white. A disproportionate number of them were black, but then, black people commit more crime. While I'd rather the police do their job, lynching as a practice doesn't seem to me to indicate anyone feels white people are superior.

Hate crimes

Hate crimes are a socially constructed phenomenon whereby for using an ethnic slur while committing assault, one will get a far harsher sentence. Using a political slur (Nazi, commie, bigot, hater) does not have the same effect. One has to be more concerned about the slurs one uses to insult someone than whether you've beaten him over the head. The use of a slur during an assault is no evidence that the perpetrator secretly thinks that white people are superior.

Blackface

Blackface originated from white people dressing as black people, often in a mocking and offensive way. Up until maybe 20 years ago, simply dressing up as a black man with face paint was not considered "blackface", and was perfectly acceptable. Dressing as another race, sex, profession, or age is what acting was all about. The only reason it has become so taboo and offensive to blacks to dress up as a black person is because of media influence. Without media influence, blacks probably wouldn't mind that people dressed up as Barack Obama at a party.

The N Word

Again, media influence has made this particular slur worse than any other, and use of it has no relationship to believing white people are superior.

Swastikas

A symbol of European history and heritage, the humble swastika has been utterly destroyed in its reputation, not by the NSDAP, but by the port-WWII narrative surrounding it. The same happens ultimately to any symbols of European heritage.

Neo-Nazis

What they mean by Neo-Nazis includes everyone on this forum. It is a term with so broad a brush that anybody defending European heritage (or white people in general) will be tarred with it.

Burning Crosses

Like the swastika, burning crosses, marching with torches, and similar rituals are a part of European tradition. They really don't want any European heritage to survive (they want to destroy everything we love).

Racist Jokes

Racist jokes are told because they are breaking a taboo. The majority of people telling racist jokes aren't even racially aware themselves; they just laugh at the uncomfortableness of the situation, much as with jokes about rape, murder or dead babies.

Racial Slurs

Similar to hate crimes above, racial slurs are elevated to a special status as compared to any other insult. It's okay to hate realtors, bankers, or communists - even use slurs against them - but insult a protected class like Jews and there'll be hell to pay.

KKK

The KKK barely exists. I'm really surprised why it's still on these lists. Are there any non-feds in the KKK?

Detroit Become Human, Alternative Review by Marginotions in debatealtright

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Here's an interesting discussion from r/debatealtright earlier in the year about this game and shows that are similar to it:

leftajar 2020-03-22

Yeah the subversion has been going on for awhile. Just watched the recent new episode of Westworld. It's fucking maximum globo-homo:

  • all of the bad guys are white men.
  • All but one of the protagonists are PoC's or female.
  • The opening investor bad guy is overtly German

Also featuring:

  • Techno-dystopian future
  • Rampant degeneracy and drugs
  • Trans-humanist technology
  • Robots referred to as "gods" ready to "take their revenge."
  • Globohomo is a transhumanist death cult.

AFutureConcern 2020-03-22

Globohomo is a transhumanist death cult.

Absolutely right, though "transhumanism" implies that there will be something "human" left after technology erases all culture, traditions, nations, struggles, needs, wants or goals. Eventually, what use will there be in maintaining the "production of human flesh" for all those "backward reactionaries" who wish to have their online thought complex and consumption tokens associated with a physical body?

The "robots-as-oppressed-minorities" trope is already alive in shows like this and in video games like "Detroit: Become Human". Most people have no idea how dangerous this is, and they need to wake up.


DaLaohu 2020-03-22

This is what gets me about cyberpunk shows: They explore very real, fascinating, and important questions regarding science and technology, but they're all written by Leftists or created to be Elite propaganda.

Caprica is so close to being a perfect show exploring transhumanism, but it's polluted by Leftist idealogy. The first episode has this brilliant conversation between a scientist who "resurrected" his deceased daughter into a virtual world and the a man who believes that is morally wrong. I don't think I've ever seen a more engaging moral and philosophical discussion on television. But the rest of the show depicts "group marriages" and homosexuality and other degeneracy as the norm and good.

I searched a bunch for that scene, but there is so little of this show on YouTube. Here's a similar moment, but it doesn't go as deep nor as engaging as the scene I mentioned: It's the scientist interacting with his resurrected daughter: https://youtu.be/cgt5KkXALDY

AFutureConcern 2020-03-22

Exactly how I feel as well. They often depict the transhumanist future with robots fighting for their right to be treated as "equals" and show the nasty evil white men treating the robots with contempt or indifference, using them as slaves.

For those paying attention, this provides an interesting insight into the leftist worldview. Even when a being is multiple times more intelligent, with super-strength and super-speed and perfect memory, as robots typically are, leftists still will insist that these beings are deserving of "equal rights". Their commitment to egalitarianism and replacism is so strong, so overarching, that not only do they have no loyalty to their family, their community, their nation or their race, but they don't even have an ounce of loyalty to mankind itself.

DaLaohu 2020-03-22

If you want some good reading on a time when Leftists were handed a great cyberpunk setting to discuss transhumanism and instead turned it into an obvious race politics metaphor: https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=33885

They keep doing this to such an otherwise fascinating issue.

Youtube removed this Mr. Obvious video about Seth Rogen, who is Jewish, saying that "Israel is ridiculous, antiquated, and based on ethnic cleansing" but he's afraid to tell other Jewish people. Did this video violate Youtube's terms? You be the judge. by Chipit in censorship

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Yes, it violated YouTube's terms. It's critical of Israel and Jewish power. This means it qualifies as so-called "hate speech" - in fact a particular kind called "antisemitism".

"Hate speech" doesn't have much to do with hate, and has everything to do with protecting certain groups from criticism. You can hate someone or some group all you like on YouTube so long as it's not on the protected list. For example, Jews are a protected group, and so are immigrants. The purpose of these rules is to prevent criticism of Jews and immigration. Not on the protected list are right-wingers. Criticism of the "far-right" (which includes very tame liberal positions) for example is permitted and even encouraged by YouTube.

Performers in Scotland could be punished for playing ‘offensive’ roles under a new hate-crime law. by Skuly in politics

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Every. Single. Time.

Twitter Suspends Donald Trump Jr. After He Posts Viral Video on Successful HCQ Treatment for COVID-19 by scrubking in politics

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If they don't take action after this they are confirmed to be completely controlled opposition. It's honestly unbelievable how the leftists on Twitter are fully in favor of this censorship. We warned this would happen, years ago - and it's truly only the right that cares, and they won't do anything to stop it. Dark times ahead...

This Man Predicted Today's Crisis! How Marxism Disguises Itself As Social Justice & Equality. by blue1324 in WorldPolitics

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How Marxism Disguises Itself As Social Justice & Equality.

Well, Marxism is social justice and equality. It's just that most people don't realize what that means. Equality is pretending that people are equal when they are clearly not, and social justice is punishing successful groups (white people) for their sin of being more successful because they can only have gained their power through "oppression" (since they are equal to all other groups).

The idea of the oppressor/oppressed distinction of social justice ideology comes directly from the communist manifesto:

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.

Modern leftist movements simply apply this to men/women, white/black, straight/gay and so on.

Refuting a big Cope: Deplatforming is extremely effective and Bitchute is a dead end by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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I like your optimism. The only thing I'd say is that the enemy propaganda is so much easier to produce as well. So I don't think that gives us an advantage. What it does mean is that people are slaves to propaganda more than they ever were in the past, and I don't think that's an advantage for the pro-natural order right (reality tends to be a redpill).

Refuting a big Cope: Deplatforming is extremely effective and Bitchute is a dead end by casparvoneverec in debatealtright

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The other major issue is fragmentation. Our enemies constantly shill 10+ different platforms, all with "free speech", and their goal is to fracture the community into tiny pieces so it's easier to mop up.

  • There was a time when right-wing thought had a hub on 4chan; then 4chan split into 4chan and 8chan, which split into 8kun.top and 8chan.moe.
  • Right-wing thought had a close-knit network of YouTubers who would go on each others' shows and promote each other, with the YouTube algorithm promoting their channels and channels peripheral to them; now to get videos you have to go to bitchute.com, lbry.tv and dlive.tv.
  • Right-wing thought had an active membership on Twitter; now Twitter bans large users central and peripheral to the network (Stefan Molyneux, Morgoth, Martin Sellner) and the services replacing Twitter are fractured - Parler, Gab, Telegram.
  • Right-wing thought was popular on Reddit; now there are many sites that serve that function - saidit.net, notabug.io, voat.co, among others

What can we do to counter this, given our enemies are watching our every move?

Meanwhile on reddit, on a sports subreddit: "Anyone who questions Bill Gates is anti-vax" to massive amounts of upvotes (probably astroturfed) by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

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It's like a pharma company advertising page at this point, honestly. It's probably filled with pharma shilling groups, and I bet some of them are even hired by the Gates Foundation. Would not surprise me one bit.

I'll bet you it's not even secret. Go look for job postings for big pharma - they'll have positions available for "social media analyst" or "online relations manager" or something like that. Of course they have a presence on reddit. It's one of the top websites in the world.

Questioning the Holocaust by MostBasedRedditor in debatealtright

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To appropriate a little leftist language:

The Holocaust is a social construct.

Not to say that it didn't happen, or to debate any historical facts of the matter. Just to recognize that the social importance we place upon it compared to other loss of life (you gave the Germans as an example), is socially constructed by Jews who place Holocaust memorials everywhere, create TV shows to this day demonizing the Nazis, and who consider it a core part of their identity as Jews.

Why everyone is talking about the A.I. text generator released by an Elon Musk-backed lab by Entropick in technology

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Based and Linkola-pilled

Today on reddit I posted 3 comments on a post on the front page. They were deleted by mods, and to verify my account, I have to send them a picture of my forearm showing my skin color. If my skin is not dark enough, I don't get approved. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

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Yep, and also - black people are probably wealthier today than had they never been slaves. If we're to correct the historical wrong, should black people give up their wealth to whites and move back to Africa?

Today on reddit I posted 3 comments on a post on the front page. They were deleted by mods, and to verify my account, I have to send them a picture of my forearm showing my skin color. If my skin is not dark enough, I don't get approved. by magnora7 in MeanwhileOnReddit

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They do want to end "racism".

"Racism" is a term used to attack white people. They view "racism" as a system of power that keeps white people ahead. Anything that equalizes this power structure (even including violence if it would be effective) is "antiracist" and is viewed as good.

Take antiracist scholar Ibram X. Kendi, for example - he says:

One either allows racial inequities to persevere, as a racist, or confronts racial inequities, as an antiracist. There is no in-between safe space of “not racist.” The claim of “not racist” neutrality is a mask for racism.

Basically, Kendi believes that you either discriminate against white people to "confront racial inequities" (in which case you are antiracist), or you don't, making you a racist. He doesn't care about being fair, or even equality of opportunity, but equality of outcome. He won't stop discriminating against white people until the relative power of the races is equalized.

Are the Protocols of the Elders of Zion real? by Pink in debatealtright

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Exactly right.

If a police officer suspects a man is dealing drugs, but can't catch him in the act, he might fabricate some evidence by planting some drugs on his person. Other officers discover that he did this and the guy is not charged.

Later on, turns out the guy really is dealing drugs. Plenty of evidence amasses that he was selling all kinds of narcotics the entire time. When charged, he points to the fabricated evidence from the month before, "But you're just like that other officer! Repeating debunked claims about my drug dealing when the evidence was a proven forgery!" With the profits from his drug empire, he owns the local media, repeats this message on it, and is able to pressure the police into letting him go.

Are the Protocols of the Elders of Zion real? by Pink in debatealtright

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I believe The Protocols is a forgery. There is too much evidence that its text was plagiarized from various sources in order to tell a story, instead of a serious document that Jews actually used and followed. I think the document is referenced by mainstream media sources as a way of drawing those who notice Jewish power towards accepting very spurious claims, similarly to how the QAnon conspiracy theory is pushed to tie dissident-right voices to absurd conspiratorial claims.

Are men becoming more feminine? by PencilPusher55 in whatever

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There is a deliberate campaign to make men more feminine, and women more masculine, yes. It's called queer theory, and it wants to erase ("queer") the distinction between all categories of sex, gender, sexuality etc. because they see the normal (and normativity) as fundamentally "oppressive" and rigid categorization creates this oppression; for example the existence of the "man" and "woman" categories create the oppression of women by men.

This idea comes directly from Jacques Derrida who is a heavy influence on this kind of leftist postmodernism.

"'Do Something'" by wristaction in debatealtright

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Rather than debating stupid analogies, let's look at what they want to get us to believe:

Black people should be given money and assistance above and beyond what white people get. They should be held to lower standards, and we should treat them more favorably because they are black. [This already happens, they just want even more.]

Can a stupid trick convince so-called "conservatives" that actually, affirmative action is necessary and good? Maybe, but it goes right against their stated principles. Most of them can't even conserve the idea that we shouldn't openly discriminate against white people. Let alone advocating on white people's behalf.

Linux team approves new terminology, bans terms like 'blacklist' and 'slave' by TruthTeller in NotTheOnion

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It's not better.

Changing the terms validates the idea that terminology can be "harmful". In reality, nobody ever got hurt because the word "slave" was used in more than one way. But now any old books or any of the other places the word "slave" is used will be viewed as "racist" and bad.

This can only escalate.

Why I am deeply alarmed by reddit censorship by Jizera in MeanwhileOnReddit

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You're absolutely right. Google censor anything that could be considered a free speech platform that competes with the tech monopolies (let alone an actual right-biased site). Reddit blocks any links to thedonald.win or voat.co - and shadowbans you if you mention saidit.net. They intentionally fracture competitors as well - if one gets too popular, you can bet it will be censored and another alternative promoted. Since there is no expectation of free speech from the masses anymore, and leftist fools will side with big tech, denying that any censorship is happening, the tech companies feel absolutely free to stifle their competition through aggressive censorship and control of the public discourse.

Anyone got a full list of anti-white companies and celebrities? by Markimus in debatealtright

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It's better to post companies that aren't anti-white. Companies and sites run by /ourguys/ that we can support. It's not illegal (yet) to start a company that has pro-white messaging, or at least avoids anti-whiteness. So start forming these companies and supporting these companies.

The major hurdle is that larger companies are not allowed to form with any ideology subscribed to by mostly white people, because of anti-discrimination laws. Small businesses are fine, though.

Something of interest: Somebody's going around Reddit calling the Alt-Right like a CIA psy-op or something by sineavec in debatealtright

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More lolquotes:

I realise that for many people this is almost taken as a given, everything within capitalism reproduces capitalist ideology, why would the internet be any different?

Communism arose within capitalism, seriously what is this guy smoking. Does he read his own words?

Donald Trump himself has claimed that ‘the radical left are in control of Facebook’. This is of course nonsense [...] Facebook also recently hired former director general of the Israeli ministry of justice Emi Palmor

Not all of them are radical leftists! - some are Israelis.... lmao he's got a point

Gavin Mcinnes has of course appeared on Alex Jone’s Infowars and regularly rubs shoulders with all manner of alt right figures, including the man himself Donald Trump. Along with Trump, his former right and left hand men Steven Bannon and Roger Stone.

He thinks Donald Trump, Steven Bannon and Roger Stone are Alt-Right.

I believe I have shown that very many of the biggest media influences on the Alt Right are steeped in intelligence connections and are funded by the interests of capital. Tommy Robinson [...] Alex Jones [...] Steve Bannon [...] Mike Cernovich [...] Jack Posobiec

What is this crap. Liberal Zionist Tommy Robinson, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, presidential advisor Steve Bannon, alt-light Mike Cernovich, and news anchor Jack Posobiec - none of these guys are close to being white nationalist. Bannon is probably the closest, the others may be right-wing but half of them get kicked off all the major platforms despite not being Alt-Right at all.

I believe I have shown that all of the alt rights most notorious channels, 4chan, 8chan, and Reddit, have all been the target of manipulation by intelligence agencies, such as those operating out of Eglin Aiforce base. I believe I have possibly shed light on the intentions behind that manipulation, such as in the case of Rushan Abbas, or in the creation of Neo Nazi groups which attack minorities and the left, such as The Base.

Again, correct. Alt-Right spaces are teeming with feds, what's new. It's that this guy is using the fact that feds entrap us with calls to violence as evidence that we are ourselves guided by feds, not the far more obvious conclusion that the feds are trying to stop our movement. There is little hope for this guy to be honest.


Every time I see a leftist rail against the Alt-Right I never see any mention of the clear, sweeping leftward social changes to society that have formed clown world. They are tearing down statues of the founders, blaming white people everywhere and calling them racist, writing white people out of the curriculum, the stage and the screen, discriminating against white people in hiring and in college admissions, they are telling people men are women and women are men, that race doesn't exist (except white people are to blame), that homosexuality, miscegenation, sodomy, pornography are normal and healthy, that we should accept the replacement and destruction of our culture and of our people (but it's not happening but you deserve it). Surely this should get some mention?

A Fresh Change by Edvin in Introductions

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Great to have you here, welcome!

I'm looking forward to eventually just lurking here while on the toilet and never posting anything

Haha, don't be afraid to post content. Saidit just had a new influx of users so if they all post some content this website will be thriving!

What SHOULD be taught in schools? by Aureus in AskSaidIt

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It doesn't. Critical thinking comes from Plato; "the analysis of facts to form a judgment."

Critical theory is named in a subversive way, and comes from the Frankfurt School in the early 20th century. It refers to "criticism" of a particular kind that critiques power in society; it is not concerned at all with "the analysis of facts to form a judgment;" in fact:

Critical Theory is only tangentially concerned with understanding or truth and has, as Hume might have it, abandoned descriptions of what is in favor of pushing for what the particular critical theory holds ought to be.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CRITICIZE THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE - Barricade Garage by send_nasty_stuff in altrightwebm

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This is hilarious. "Even Jeffrey Epstein was white" lmao

First they came for FatPeopleHate, but I said nothing by poops in Introductions

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And it got deleted. Wow. The level of censorship is off the charts.

r/DebateAltRight Users - Updated List from 2020-06-29 Archive by AFutureConcern in debatealtright

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If you're on unix:

cd DebateAltRight
grep -roh 'user/[0-9A-Za-z_-]*\.html' | sed 's:^user/::;s:.html$::' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr

r/DebateAltRight Users - Updated List from 2020-06-29 Archive by AFutureConcern in debatealtright

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My mod account was banned and I assume all the others were as well. I wonder to what extent, if any, the regular contributors were banned.

My account was shadowbanned towards the end; I think it had something to do with linking to saidit - others here have had similar experiences. Very difficult to tell people about alternatives when the links get deleted or you get banned just for posting them!

Covid is still a hoax, people. by mongre in conspiracy

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Agreed, "hoax" overstates the claim massively, though there's always a kernel of truth to any hoax.

Some insight about free speech from Reddit: West turning into USSR by cloudrabbit in MeanwhileOnReddit

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It's a great excuse to purge right-wing dissidents from universities. Same with calls for "diversity" - it's a way of biasing the university towards a leftist agenda. The people discriminated against the most are lower-to-middle class white people, and those that benefit are the upper classes and lower-class blacks and Hispanics.

Here is a list of all reddit users of debatealtright. Post in the comments which you have contacted and i'll remove them from the list by bruker in debatealtright

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I made the list originally from a slightly older archive. I'll update it with the archive linked in the sticky.

I Came Here Because I Love The Freedom I Have Here. by Mikeakogu in Introductions

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Welcome! I think we need to be vigilant to make sure this place does not decay into censorship like Reddit, but it's good for now! Some of the recently banned subreddits moved to communities.win - check those out if you don't find them here.

Really makes Grug think by [deleted] in debatealtright

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It's clearly white supremacists who are in on it. Look at Morgoth's prediction! How could he make such an accurate prediction unless the world is secretly controlled by white supremacists? Checkmate, Nazis!

First they came for FatPeopleHate, but I said nothing by poops in Introductions

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Done. Let's see if it gets censored lol

First they came for FatPeopleHate, but I said nothing by poops in Introductions

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His stupidity actually made things worse because it meant people could criticize him on the grounds that he's an idiot, where their real reason was that they're communists and they must purge any right-wing thought. It got a lot of centrists/center-right on board with joining "The Resistance" and ushering in leftist censorship.

Ban wave extends to YouTube. Stefan Molyneux's channel is down. by send_nasty_stuff in debatealtright

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Neoliberalism is pretty leftist, though. It's based around "equality of opportunity" which works out about the same as "equality of outcome" once you figure out that outcome = opportunity + random factors. The thing is that the west has been in such a leftward drift for so long that genuine right-wing ideas are totally missing from the discourse.

It happened guys. r/debatealtright was just banned a minute ago. by eth0 in debatealtright

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The problem with this is that there is a fundamental asymmetry between left and right. Right is order; heirarchy, and left is disorder; entropy. It's far easier to subvert institutions to destroy the established order than it is to "subvert" a leftist-run mess (see CHAZ/CHOP) into some kind of order.

That's why my suggestion is to build. We need institutions in place that are our own, so that when the globohomo system eventually decays, we will have something ready to take its place.

New term I really like: "Leftwaffe". Please start using it in your memes and everywhere else. by Chipit in memes

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It is true that many on the left have abandoned liberalism, and normie conservatives tend to be a lot more liberal. But it's absolutely wrong to compare them to fascists. It looks like you're using "fascist" as a word for "illiberal and bad" - fascism is a political ideology focused around viewing the nation (as a people bound by blood & soil) as a single body that should act collectively in its own interest, honoring the strong and powerful. It's fundamentally different to the leftist worldview of anti-fascists who deny that nationhood is important, claim that groups acting in their own self-interest are "racist" (and therefore bad), and who honor the weak and powerless (blacks, women, immigrants, LGBT etc.).

The only similarity is opposition to liberalism and therefore suppression of dissent in a country run by either group would not be opposed on liberal grounds. Even so, I don't think most on the far-right today would censor speech nearly as much as leftists are currently doing. In fact I'm not sure any censorship regime in history is as extreme as what's happening right now.

Shadowbanning on Reddit by AFutureConcern in debatealtright

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If only you knew how bad things really are.

He knew.

Where can I find more active white nationalist online discussion forum these days? by grocerymannn in debatealtright

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If anybody knows another hot white nationalist chat spot I'm all ears.

I broke down the state of alternative platforms here. Notably, Voat, Poal, Stormfront, 8kun & Gab have some activity of the sites that you haven't mentioned.

Twitter Says They’ll Just Ban Trump If He Loses the Election by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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The difference is that the system today has a vastly larger amount of power. The majority of people are glued to their smartphones and absorb media all day, every day. In 1914 most people formed their opinions from their real-life experiences, and groups could form and freely associate. Today, freely-associating groups can form on Facebook but they'll be shut down the moment they pose a threat to the system. In fact, with Trump out of the picture, even milquetoast right-wing populism will be purged from online spaces, as already happened to r/The_Donald.

I fear that the level of technology may mean we soon are past the point of no return, and the system will have control forever.

Get ready for persecution and revenge. I predict a massive wave of anti-White initiatives. A reign of terror. by Fitter_Happier in debatealtright

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We have to destroy the republic in order to save it

Multiple muslim terror attacks in France and increase of antagonsim from muslim countries by arainynightinskyrim in debatealtright

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Why not? Globohomo will homogenize all peoples and cultures eventually - what makes you think it hasn't already started on Islam? Islamic theocracies are turning away from some of the stricter laws like forbidding women to drive, and in the west we see promotion of trans lesbian Muslims in gay rainbow hijabs. Islamic theocracy, properly upheld, is a bulwark against globohomo (it's still not great for white people, though).

Why I am not a libertarian, an ancap, or a voluntarist by WaltzRoommate in debatealtright

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Of course, I'm mostly just memeing, but there really is a pattern to be noticed of pretentious French philosophers spewing absolute crap that gets taken way too seriously.

Why I am not a libertarian, an ancap, or a voluntarist by WaltzRoommate in debatealtright

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Let me just check his Wikipedia real quick, yep - there it is:

was a French philosopher

Every. Single. Time.

Possible 2020 BLOWOUT as Trump Begins to DOMINATE RUST BELT Even MORE Than 2016!!! by Ethnocrat in debatealtright

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Yeah, it's just the most plausible explanation for withheld information is that the Trump campaign (or Trump supporters) kept it until now. Same reason that the "Russia Russia Russia" conspiracy theories are stupid - most "operations" to elect Trump will be run by the campaign itself, and its billions of dollars.

Imagine you had to re-construct your worldview for a teenager solely from sources unlikely to be banned. What would you recommend? by Mr9to5 in debatealtright

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Yes, but the methods of subversion he describes are very relevant to today. I personally never took people sharing him to mean that Russian communists are still subverting our society, but rather that he described simply the methods of subversion (that were used in the West by the Frankfurt School).

Related video by Academic Agent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niiF8hCSrYQ