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[–]NeedMoreCoffee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

None of what i removed breaks those rules. Did you even look at what i removed? Posts that women are not intelligent should not be here. Posts that women should not be able to vote should not be here. Posts with broken links should not be here.

There has not been a moderator here for TWO years. This sub is full of shitposts about women. Posts from people who frequent incel subs that post crimes women committed.

I was cleaning it up and sorting this abandoned place out which d3r and i talked about. He said it was great because we need more women on saidit. And here you are just randomly showing up because axa had a hissyfit and removing it from all.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

Why though? Because you disagree with them?

Disagreement is not grounds for censorship on saidit.

Repeatedly dragging the quality of discussion downward is though, so maybe if you were looking at it through that lens (the actual rules of saidit) then maybe we could re-add you on /all? However removing dead links (that aren't dead) doesn't fit anywhere in saidit moderator rules, and is infact against those rules.

But instead it sounds like you want to make up your own rules, which is fine but we take you off of /all, as we've done. And that's fine, no problem with that. But if you want your sub to be on the main page, you have to follow the saidit moderator rules.

They're really not restrictive, and a lot of what you're doing might fit in to those rules. Try giving them a read. https://www.saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

Why???? you think making posts telling women they are dumb and should not have the right vote IN THE WOMAN SUB is not dragging the the quality of discussion down??? WTF dude come one

This is absolute bullshit. So what you just want to keep this place dead and let all the incels post how dumb women are? Is that what you want because no woman will join a sub like that. You can just say i fucking hate women and be done with it then and you know it.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

you think making posts telling women they are dumb and should not have the right vote IN THE WOMAN SUB is not dragging the the quality of discussion down???

Did I ever say it wasn't? I'm simply saying you need to remove things for reasons that are saidit rules, not just your own made up reasons. If the rules apply, then they apply. But you can't just make up your own rules, or else the sub gets taken off of /all

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

And who decides what the specific rules of a sub are? Because i'm pretty sure politics removes everything not politics and everything nazi/white supremacist. Pretty sure food removes everything not food and food related fetishes.

They only things ive removed so far is pure misogyny and links i thought were dead and anything i thought that drags down the quality of this sub. like the rules say

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

Ad hominems can be removed. "misogyny" is too subjectively defined, and is not on the saidit rules.

"dead links" do not degrade the quality of discussion, especially if they're not actually dead. So I don't think you should ever remove a dead link since you can't tell if it's actually dead or not.

If you want to stick to only removing infractions that drag the quality of discussion down the pyramid of debate, and stop removing "dead" links, then I'd consider re-adding the sub to /all

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

How am i even supposed to do that with a woman sub on a site with lots of womanhaters when i can not remove misogyny for dragging down the level of the sub?

Because i was planning to remove the crimes links aswel because they have absolutely no value to the ONLY woman sub on all except to make women look bad.

Like do you even understand the situation with women content on the internet? Its constantly targetted.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

So you want to remove things that "make women look bad"? Including removing on-topic posts that are about women, because it's about women doing crimes?

That's extremely subjective, and is against the saidit moderator rules to apply such subjective mod rules for a sub on /all. You just stated you're going to remove things with a deliberate bias, removing things that look bad but are on topic, rather than just allowing for the free flow of information.

So your sub will definitely remain off of /all as long as you are going to remove things based on your own subjective rules instead of allowing for the free flow of information as saidit is intended.

Anyway, good luck with your sub. Have a nice day.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Ok so you just dont want women on saidit. Got it mate. I'll stop promoting the site and leave women dead as a fish.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

That's not what I said. I don't think you're acting in good faith during this discussion... I've tried to explain things to you many times, but you keep lashing out instead of working with me, and that immaturity also proves you're not ready to have a sub on the front page of saidit.

You can't just delete working links because you think they're dead. You can't just make up your own mod rules unless you want to be off of /all. Sorry. Those have always been the rules.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The only real problem is your removal of the "dead links" that aren't actually dead... that's against saidit mod policy to just delete things for your own reasons. If you can justify a removal based on the saidit rules, then that's no problem.

But "dead links" is not one of the saidit rules reasons for removal that's allowed for mods

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There is nothing in your rules about not removing dead links. And as i showed you, it showed dead to me.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

https://www.saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/

Mods cannot remove posts that are on-topic and in good faith. The post with the 'dead' link was both on-topic and in good faith, and even had comments under it. You can't just delete content from saidit! That's why people come here, because we don't censor everything like reddit does.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How is a dead link on topic? its dead. but fine i wont delete dead links. You do realise that most people clean up dead things right? this is not like i did not read your rules. A lot of people think dead links have no value and are even annoying as fuck.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It's not dead though. You thought it was dead, but it wasn't. That's a huge problem, obviously. In reality you're just deleting content.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Most posts have 1-2 upvotes and no comments expect when its easy to laugh at women then its got a lot of interaction. When it comes to women using the women sub its fucking dead, gone, kaputt, broken, fucked.

I was going to make it a place women would like to post and interact. You but cockblock it so fine. enjoy your man site

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, exactly most posts have so few comments that we can't have a mod going around deleting content, making this place look even more bare.

Sorry we couldn't come to an agreement. You're still welcome to run the sub. If you really wanted to make it place for women you would've worked with me so it could be on /all and you could still remove ad hominems.

Anyway, we've talked enough about this. Have a good day.