I have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, AMA

submitted by Bunnygirl from self.whatever

When I was 20 I was diagnosed by a psychologist with having Narcissistic Personality Disorder. At first I was in denial about but over time I come to terms with my narcissism and the diagnosis started to make sense to me. A lot of my problems can be traced back to my unrealistic self image and lack of ability to relate with others.

There's a lot of stigma towards NPD. I hope by making this thread I can help others understand that having NPD doesn't inherently make you a bad person and NPD hurts the person with it as well.

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[–]American_Muskrat 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

I'm a way better narcissist than you. 🙂‍↕️

Psychiatry is a load of shit, don't put too much stock in it.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Why is it?

[–]American_Muskrat 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

It's not really based on science, the treatments have ridiculously low success rates with a high incidence of side effects, sometimes permanent, and psychiatry tends to pathologize undesirable but otherwise normal human behavior.

Welcome to the forum btw, u/neolib was very excited you have joined us.

[–]cunninglingus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It's not really based on science

Psychiatry is absolutely a science

Perhaps you're thinking of psychology

Don't mislead other narcissists into the wrong life choices. That's incredibly abusive.

(Neolib wanted to help; I doubt excitement was his issue.)

[–]American_Muskrat 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's a field where they don't know what causes their patient's problems nor how to cure them. It's claptrap and superstition.

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Do you really want to argue about psychiatry? In practice, it's of course highly problematic. In general, there have been incredible benefits thanks to this field, since the 18th century. It's foundations are less the issue than its current practice IMO.

[–]American_Muskrat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Name a benefit.

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What? Treatment for debilitating pathologies.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, I thought you ment for NPD

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

NPD can be a pathology

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, your self confidence is through the roof lol

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thank you and it's nice to know your happy I'm here...

And understand what your saying about psychiatry but just because they don't have a treatment doesn't mean there isn't an illness. I understand that therapy can pathologize normal behaviour but I don't have normal behaviour. I have an expectation that things will always work out in my way and when it doesn't I use to think it could never have been my fault. I used to always over estimate my ability and I found it very hard to relate or empathize with others. I'm always thinking about myself and everyone else like a secondary character. I find it hard to form relationships with others because caring about others doesn't come naturally to me.

It's hard to accept you have problems when you have NPD. It took me a long time to understand that there's something fundamentally wrong with me. My narcissism was a defence mechanism from the world around me when I was young so admitting something is wrong with you really hurts.

[–]cunninglingus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some good points here. One bit that's missing is that narcissists are primarily focused on one thing: how to manipulate others into what you want them to do for you, and in that manner to validate you. When you can start to enjoy validation through your own achievements, without manipulating others, you'll develop through your own actions improvements in your life that are truly your own and will lead to other achievements.

Moreover, the purposes of psychiatry and psychology are not to pathologize normal behaviour. The opposite is true. A pathology is certainly not a normal behaviour. You can argue that there are pathological tendencies in all of us, but those pathologies are destructive, not constructive. Understanding and working with those pathologies, in order to avoid the associated destructive problems, are the necessary goals for a healthy life. American_Muskrat's comments about psychiatry are false.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why does everyone think they are a mental expert when it comes to narcissism? Thire analysis always boils down to "NPD is when your a stinky poopoo head who is a big meanie". Everyone can be manipulative it's not exclusive to NPD.

I hate how stigmatised NPD is especially in this age of mental health awareness. It's like with disabilities people only care it's something socially acceptable like depression or anxiety but not when it comes to other things that can ruin your life like ASPD, BPD or NPD then people think your the second version of satan.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm skeptical of the claim that what you describe is pathological. Empathy can be a weakness and self-centeredness can give you an edge and help you focus on goals. It's only in social situations that this kind of mentality looks bad. But the majority of humans are idiots so you don't want to be held back by them. I'm not saying empathy is bad necessarily either or that it has no use. There's healthy and pathological empahty, and healthy and pathological self-centeredness. If you're showing the pathological side of the latter, then perhaps developing empathy can counteract that, but it can just as easily be a pitfall. I agree with Musky that modern psychiatry is bullshit. They claim that on a physical level your brain activity diverges from the norm, but there are no tests to verify that. There isn't even the attempt to map traits or supposed illnesses to neuron patterns. It's one big hoax. I don't like breaking down my comments into paragraphs.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

*is

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. Have you heard of the reproducibility crisis? That is what happens when you have pseudo science pretending to be science.

[–]tradecoder 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why is it?

/u/bunnygirl is not a new user at this website.

She is a sock puppet

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

WTF?

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No problem👍 NPD is a mental illness that is to do with feelings of self-worth and self centuredness. NPD can make you feel like your never wrong and your the main character in a TV. NPD can be problematic to relationships of all kinds because with NPD it's hard to empathize with others or admit your wrong. NPD is hard to live with and hurts the sufferer just as much as anyone else. People with NPD can be problematic the same way someone with the black death would. It's only problematic because a lot of people with NPD struggle to get help for they're disorder

Your spelling looks just fine and you don't seem to have problems just busting into a forum of strangers and talking about your problem in great detail.

In other words you're bullshit

I studied counseling

/u/bunnygirl

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What do you mean by "busting into a forum of strangers and talking about your problem in great detail." What forum isn't filled with strangers? This isn't a private discord server. Secondly I did not go into great detail if you studied counselling you what know that what I said is the first thing on the Wikipedia page.

Also, thank you very much. I've been working on my grammar. Nice to know it's paying off.

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You said you can't spell yet you're spelling looks just fine to me.

You came into an forum and started talking about how your mental disorder causes you to attempt or think about suicide..

You said you can't find a job yet you have all day to sit around in a forum..

I studied counseling.

Most people that say that they want help do not really want help but instead they want people to sit with them and tell them that they're really okay and then they continue on with their problems.

Again I studied counseling

Go to Walmart and get a job as a greeter or as a stocker and move on with your life and stop sitting around here and chatting with trannies.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't sit around all day posting here if you looked at my post history you would see most of my posts are posted around 3-to-9 so not exactly working hours and if you looked at my posts I did say I was working on myself.

So just because some people want to be enabled that means nobody can ever want to change or get help. Ok then I guess we're all just doomed and things can never get better. I post here because I'm looking for advice and a place where I can say the things I can't say irl. It's nice to be able to express your self anonymously in a neutral space.

[–]fla_ral 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

spam

[–]Entropick 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nobody had to deal with any of this 1,000 years ago when we struggled to survive. Bring that life back, this one SUCKS.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Look up mouse utopia. When life becomes too easy it makes mamals go crazy.

The solution is most likely to force your kids to endure hardships, like participating in competitive sports. Kids who do are far healthier. All the mentally unstable and LGBT+ kids are overwhelmingly under represented in that cohort.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So then they troon out and unleash their wrath by joining women's sports.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Troons in women's sports are literally avoiding competition. The rule should simply be that they compete in men's leagues. They would also benefit there.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How do you know? Maybe there were caveman narcissists people just didn't know back then

[–]Entropick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You'd think back then you'd get a club to the dome but....yeah, sure probably.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I prefer modern times

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Hi Bunny.

There's a lot of stigma towards NPD.

Yeah. The only thing I know about NPD is that relationships with such people are often problematic.

Can you elaborate a bit on what NPD is, and how problematic relationships result?

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No problem👍 NPD is a mental illness that is to do with feelings of self-worth and self centuredness. NPD can make you feel like your never wrong and your the main character in a TV. NPD can be problematic to relationships of all kinds because with NPD it's hard to empathize with others or admit your wrong. NPD is hard to live with and hurts the sufferer just as much as anyone else. People with NPD can be problematic the same way someone with the black death would. It's only problematic because a lot of people with NPD struggle to get help for they're disorder.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks!

How is NPD treated?

When you say people "struggle to get help", is help CBT, or drugs or something else?

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

NPD can be treated though therapy and self awareness. Understanding your not perfect and you have a problem. It's hard to admit you have a problem with NPD so a lot of sufferers never get help and NPD is a new diagnosis so a lot of psychologists don't know how to treat it but a therapist can still give good insight into your self that's worth having.

[–]American_Muskrat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Docs want you to feel bad for being the way you are :/

Maybe you are right all the time. I am.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe I'm not the only narcissist here

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Docs want you to feel bad for being the way you are :/

Maybe you are right all the time. I am.

Doctors also advise to quit drinking

[–]American_Muskrat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Shut your noise hole, old homeless man.

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Shut your noise hole, old homeless man.

Go to A.A. and try to quit drinking

[–]gloomy_bear 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

As long as you're not like some of my old bullies who have it, then you're good. I have traits of paranoid personality disorder BTW

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I was told about you. How do you know your old bullies had NPD?

[–]gloomy_bear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They were the textbook case of it. Different subtypes of it. Individuals with NPD are more likely to bully, specifically the antagonistic and malignant subtypes.

[–]WoodyWoodPeckerHah he he he hah! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My bullies had NPD as well, some of them had a black belt in TKD which prompted me to learn martial arts and defend myself when they attacked me.

[–]gloomy_bear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Damn some of them got physical? One of them was a similar size as me so whenever she tried to run me over like a bull in a china shop, I'd push her back. The other NPD one was underweight and I could've body slammed her if I wanted to.

[–]WoodyWoodPeckerHah he he he hah! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

One was only five feet tall but was a black belt in TKD. The shorter one is the more leverage they get in martial arts. A Vice Principle broke up the fight.

[–]gloomy_bear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Damn shorter than me. That person was the opposite of all bark and no bite.

[–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Had to Google that one, my landlord fits the description. That's why I'm saving to move again

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What did you have to Google?

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Narcissistic Personality Disorder, I'm German so Google translates for me.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How does your landlord fit the description?

[–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

She's self-importance and feels like she deserve privileges and special treatment and acts superior to others .

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am certainly guilty of being like this. I'm learning to be a better person. I'm working on ability to empathize with others. It's hard some days are harder then others

[–]soundsituation 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

What has been most helpful in managing your symptoms?

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Being self aware and understanding I have a problem.

[–]soundsituation 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What got you into therapy initially? Did you already suspect you had NPD?

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What got you into therapy initially? Did you already suspect you had NPD?

/u/bunnygirl is a fake sock puppet account

[–]soundsituation 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Socks get NPD too

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Socks get NPD too

Socks is suffering from the side effects of too much vitamin D.

[–]WoodyWoodPeckerHah he he he hah! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Socks is suffering from TDS, vote for Trump to treat him! :)

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was in therapy because I was having suicidal thoughts and no I never suspected I had NPD

[–]HiddenFox 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

When dealing with the lack of empathy has your psychologist recommend any exercises or treatments to help you improve?

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't seen my old therapist in like 4 years as it got too expensive but I'm in the process of getting my shit together so I can see one again. I do a lot of research on the web and I know that sounds like a recipe for disaster but I only use trustworthy sites positivepsychology and Calm also it's helpful to read/watch from the prospective of other people going through the same problem on sites like Reddit and YouTube. Empathy at the end of the day is having a good imagination so I do things like go out of my comfort zone and imagine things as if they were happening to me.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's some helpful videos:

https://youtu.be/7zEkgEXaisQ?si=jsk_8ANLp3B0WEYM

https://youtu.be/jLE69oyzj4A?si=oTpbQGc6X0pg_paf

[–]Nick-Gurr 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No surprise here. Every woman has this syndrome

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not as badly as you do.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Woman... Am I right?

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Woman... Am I right?

Tranny alert

[–]WoodyWoodPeckerHah he he he hah! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Do you have an OnlyFans page? :)

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not that poor yet

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lel.

[–]detty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Would you maybe come to the chat? We're desperate for new members.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Ok sure where do you want to chat?

[–]detty 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

On the desktop version of this website, there's a chat widget on the right side - right under the "submit new posts" buttons.

We mostly hang out on #subscribed channel. Come visit us.

[–]tradecoder 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

On the desktop version of this website, there's a chat widget on the right side - right under the "submit new posts" buttons.

We mostly hang out on #subscribed channel. Come visit us.

Bunny knows how the chat works because she is not a new user here she is a sock puppet she is a current or returning user.

Wake up fruit cup

And if she's female she'll get run off by musky begging her for titty pics.

[–]detty 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here comes the party pooper.

[–]American_Muskrat 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I only want your titty pics, Edward.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don't because I'm using mobile, Dingus

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Scroll to the bottom of the posts, where you'll see 'chat in another tab' or something like that. Select it. Seems like you're such a wonderful person. /s

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I see we got a charmer with us

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I see we got a charmer with us

/u/bunnygirl is a sock puppet throw away account and they're using it to solicit people to come into chat because the dumb shits that run the chat have kicked everybody out that once came there..

Bunny girl is not a new user.. she is a made-up throwaway account by the management of this forum.

It's so funny that you retards complain that the Jews own all of the media but then you destroy a simple website like this that can't attract 50 people after 6 years and then you play some childish underhanded shit like this.

You could just make a sticky post at the top of the page that tells people how to come into chat instead of playing all this dishonest crap games with them.

Bunch of fucking retards run this site.

[–]Bunnygirl[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"Yeah guys, anyone knew who uses the forum is a syop to bring more engagement to the site and entice people to chat even though she never suggested we do so and didn't even know about the chat option until an hour ago"

[–]tradecoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Yeah guys, anyone knew who uses the forum is a syop to bring more engagement to the site and entice people to chat even though she never suggested we do so and didn't even know about the chat option until an hour ago"

The truth will set you free

[–]TotalAnon1337 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Select the 'SUBSCRIBED' word at the top left of your browser window. See the box on the lower right of the browser window, which is for chatting.