Happy pride month to everyone on the beautiful diverse spectrum of sexuality and gender in the world!

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[–]Fourier 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Your username makes sense.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Pride is for losers. life is for us normal people.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You should bring that up with a proud american.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is no such thing on earth lol.

[–]sandmax 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Learn how to tell if you're a right wing extremist.

https://youtube.com/shorts/AvFmIFSs5QE

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You expect me to be proud that I have to suffer from this awful disease my whole damn life?

I want to be cured, not made into a tool for a political agenda.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Proud is the opposite of ashamed. The original idea of pride month is to not hide who you are, so that people get an awareness of the diversity out there, so they doing find it all icky like someone from Miami, Texas.

But it's not up to you to make the world a better place. If you want to feel ashamed instead, happy shame month.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Black and white thinking as usual

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Explain?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm either proud or ashamed

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Pride month is a celebration, but it is also about visibility. Which means not being ashamed, and letting people see who you are.

There's real benefit in that. If you think that you have to feel that your sexuality is a personal accomplishment before partaking in pride month, you're missing the point.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why is it anyone else's busines what my sexuality is?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's that got to do with pride or shame?

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We know you are on the spectrum, deary

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Sorry, I'm not proud of things I had no say in and did not achieve. Not my sex, gender, race, orientation, the fact that I have blue eyes - none of that shit. I'm only proud of what I've achieved. Why can't we have an Achievement Month? Celebrate the good things you've done for yourself, your family and or society.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Lol. Gay individualism. You'll never win any political struggle with your gay ass individualism.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, but I may get a month to celebrate it from corporations. And a flag.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sorry, I'm not proud of things I had no say in and did not achieve.

It's good to see someone who would object to being a proud american, except in the case of immigrants.

I don't disagree. Do you say "Sorry, I'm not proud of things I had no say in and did not achieve", when people bring up national pride?

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, nationality is something I have only limited control over. I'm not ashamed of America and I refuse to take responsibility for the things outside my control (history, politics), though I do my part and vote my conscience. If I weren't proud, I'd move.

I also take into consideration that there are very few, if any, countries in the world that have nothing shameful in their past and present. America gets a lot of shit thrown at it, some of it justified, some not, but overall, I still think there's something worth being proud of. That's what happens when you take, or are asked to take the lead on anything.

Western Civilization is still the best deal out there. Before it, most of us would have been serfs, peasants, or slaves at the whims of who knows. I think people like to throw out the baby with the bath water when it comes to Western Civilization. Because we're free to express ourselves (for the most part, despite cultural bullshit here and a desire to silence free speech in Europe), we're free to criticize (and whine and complain with no actual substance or suggestions). However, a lot of that rings hollow to me as most of the people calling to tear everything down have no idea what to put in its place.

America has good bones in the form of its Constitution, which allows us to change things. That change takes longer than we'd like, and will never outpace culture and populism, but it's still there. Not every country has that luxury.

TL; DR - I am proud of America, but that pride is conditional.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I am proud of America, but that pride is conditional.

What have you achieved for America, that generates that pride?

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Served in the military including Desert Storm. Served my community as a State Police Dispatcher/911 Operator. Raised three kids by myself...they're American.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Served in the military including Desert Storm.

Thanks for your sevice.

But that war didn't help or create America did it? It seems to me that it was a big thing to stop Saddam from moving away from the greenback to trade oil while rousing support for the invasion by allowing them to mispercieve that he had something to do with September 11, taking the heat off Saudi Arabia, and lying to everyone that he had WMDs.

Served my community as a State Police Dispatcher/911 Operator.

What did that achieve in terms of building or creating America? It seems to me that that's a job that is important to the community. But it's the same if it's in England or Canada or Australia than if it's in America?

Or is this a volunteer job?

Raised three kids by myself...they're American.

What did you do to make them American? Did you immigrate from somewhere? If you were born in America, then you didn't achieve anything to make them American. So as you note above, that wouldn't be something you're proud of.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What have you achieved for America, that generates that pride?

Your question is pretty specific and I answered it. In my opinion serving your family, country, and community is a personal point of pride and that service, while a small part, is still part of what America has achieved. Could America achieve anything without participation from its citizenry? No. I take pride in those achievements and that contribution.

"Honor is what no man can give ya. And none can take away. Honor is man's gift to himself."

It's my favorite quote from Sir Walter Scott's Rob Roy and for me, encapsulates why I served in the first place. It also embodies that relationship between the individual and the nation. We can shit on America all day long for its flaws, and I'd be hard put to argue against the most egregious. However, it's not the flaws that define the country, but its successes. For my small part, I have contributed to those and I feel that my achievements are worthy of pride rather than any demographic I fit into.

What have you done?

[–]JennyG 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

F*** pride month