Even if abortion is baby murder...

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[–]UbiquitousCultOfSelf 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Masterful eugenics.
Are you also going to take care of the disabled vets?
The useless eaters?
Elderly?
Anyone with a genetically inherited undesirable trait?
Brown eyes?
Heck of a plan, fuhrer.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's funny being angrily called Hitler on this site.

Did I say "kill all undesirables" or did I say "let people who don't want kids and will fuck them up and let them fuck up our country not have them"?

[–]UbiquitousCultOfSelf 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It was meant to be funny, not angrily.

So here's a thought experiment to try out,
In a timeline where there is no God and evolution is the soup de jour, and social darwinism, blah blah blah such that two factors determine the fate of whole societies and possibly even the fate of the planet, those two being: environment (one's upbringing and circumstances) and nurture. The ol' nature vs nurture, but rather nature and nurture being two opposite poles each pulling and giving in their own way.

What would happen if there were a great inventor or savior (in the sense of one who would cure cancer, etc) but we decided as a society, to abort those who "would have an f'ed up life"?
Many books, movies, plays would not be made because it's in the "crucible of the fire" that our medal of our character is tested.

Look to the "natural world". What would happen if, every time you saw a chrysalis you stepped on it? Oh the horror of a world without butterflies!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Alright lol.

Yeah but I don't want to abort every single person who could possibly have a fucked up life. I want their mothers to be able to abort them if they don't want them, and the result will be fewer fucked up people.

People who don't struggle with poverty etc. growing up can still have great character. And such struggles can make the character of the people who suffer therm worse as they are forced to compromise their morals to survive.

Every person who is born into a fucked up situation is not a chrysalis destined to become a butterfly. More likely, they are destined to become a menace to society.

If suffering is so valuable, should we make people suffer more as a character test? Maybe we should make people with elite character by raising them with no family, just a random person who doesn't love them, and sparse food and water? No, that would be bad for their development and they would just turn out fucked up. And all the skills they used to survive in that environment would be useless in the real world.