How to Be Unlikeable

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[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

We are all images of God, just not the Christian God.

God is perfect, so how can you, with all your imperfections, be his image?

The "Christian God", whom you reject, is Jesus Christ, who is the Lord God Almighty, who is Lord of lords, King of kings, and God of gods. The Holy Bible also calls Jesus the Word of God made flesh. The words he spoke were the words spoken by God. What fault do you find in his words? What fault do you find in Jesus that prevents you from accepting him as the image of God?

I can't reject God, because I come from God...

Lucifer came from God, and yet he rejected God, and all his followers with him. If you reject Jesus, how are you any different from Lucifer, who became God's opposite? Wouldn't you actually be an image of God's adversary?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Your God - the one you believe in - is not perfect. In your old testament, yhwh regrets making man and displays profound levels of ignorance in creating everything.

I believe that Jesus was most likely a normal man who was enlightened while on earth, and I don't believe in any supernatural claims made in the Bible. There are a lot of things in the Bible that teach good lessons, and some not so good.

The true God doesn't condemn or judge us to hell. God is a God of pure unconditional love. Love doesn't judge, but your Bible God does.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

yhwh regrets making man and displays profound levels of ignorance in creating everything.

God made everything perfect. But for the sake of giving the created beings the highest bliss and perfection, he gave them free will. Those that turned against God and followed his adversary became evil, the opposite of God. But God in no wise created evil.

Before the great flood, God saw that the wickedness in man's heart was continually evil, as it is again today. He was sorry to see what he created turn against him.

The true God doesn't condemn or judge us to hell. God is a God of pure unconditional love. Love doesn't judge, but your Bible God does.

But isn't that what God said through Jesus, as recorded in the Bible?

"And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world." John 12:47 KJV

"Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man." John 8:15 KJV

God does not send people to hell, and God also does not force people to go to heaven. But some reject God and fall away from him into the abyss. There are few that find the path that leads to life.

I invite you to try again and find a fault with the word that Jesus spoke, which is the word of God, since so far you have come up empty handed.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

This response of yours is the standard Christian excuse making for YHWH. You should read up on gnostic thought and also look into Marcion - he had the first Bible and didn't think YHWH was the father of Jesus.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You are telling me to read something, but have you even read the Bible? I mean cover to cover. It appears you gave up on my challenge to find a fault in the word of God which Jesus spoke.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes I have. I'm an ex fundamentalist Christian. You balk at being told to read something? Marcion came first...aren't you interested in early Christianity? If not, never mind. You should also study how the Bible came to be, and look into all of the texts that were excluded from the cannon. Also, Martin Luther came along later and changed the cannon, and that's how we got the protestant Bible. The Catholics have a lot more books

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Again, you could not say for yourself what is wrong with the words of Jesus. Instead of reading what others said about Christianity, why don't you analyze the teachings of Jesus the Christ for yourself and come up with your own conclusions? And whatever wisdom you lack, you could pray directly to God and ask him.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The words written in the curated Gospels may or may not have said by a person named Jesus. There are a lot of things I liked about what was allegedly taught and said. Check out what he said in the gnostic scriptures too.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There are a lot of things I liked about what was allegedly taught and said.

Live according to those teachings, and you will be on the path that leads to God.

Unfortunately for you, if you continue to reject what Jesus did for you (dying on the cross to take away your guilt of sin), then you will not avail yourself of the blessings of his act of salvation, including the strength of his Holy Spirit to help you overcome all the temptations of the flesh. Without his strength, you are easy prey to God's adversary, who has already had some victory over you, as you are confused about the Lord and doubt his love for you, his wisdom and his strength, which the adversary has no power to defeat. The hope of salvation is still available to you, through Jesus, who died for all mankind and rose again, and he reigns over all creation even now.

If you continue to reject him, your blood is not on my hands. I have shared the good news with you and you can pray to God directly and ask him to confirm the truth to you. If you have a sincere question for me, I will answer, but otherwise I am done here.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

NDEs show that Christianity, while fine to believe in, is not the ultimate truth.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

^(Shhh, the masses aren't supposed to find out about that stuff)

I think Marcion simply misunderstood the Old Testament, which I can't really blame him for seeing as it's almost entirely cryptic. Very few people get it, and no one understands all of it. It didn't help that Polycarp or whoever did it reacted to ideas like his by writing fake letters from the disciples condemning them. The Catholic church seems to have thought it had total authority. I think it might have been a Roman plot to subvert Christianity.

These days even thinking heaven will be a spiritual rather than fleshly existence is enough to get you called gnostic. The mainstream is really going hardcore worldly.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I disagree, there's nothing mysterious about YHWH's bloodthirsty tantrums.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First of all half of it's forgery, second the Jews conflated every God they knew of. They became so hyperfocused on the issue of idolatry that they merged every pagan god with the true one.

Now when something is cryptic, it tends to not be an accurate portrayal of reality. It's code for something else, so the rulers can't understand it. The exodus probably never happened, but an exodus from the matrix sure will. I'm serious, "Pharaoh" is a completely obvious representation of the demiurge once you make the connection. There's the Eden tale which is clearly a warning to avoid law and judgement. There are lots of examples. I know Paul definitely saw the Bible that way, based on Galatians 4. Some of the tales are indeed very shocking, but remember that sort of thing was commonplace in the author's time.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The Bible God does and also doesn't. It's a contradiction. Because unlike people seem to think for some reason, the book is NOT perfect and was written by PEOPLE. And it never claims otherwise.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Check out Two Old Dudes on YouTube. I agree the Bible is not inerrant, but Christians will claim it is.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The Bible will actually tell you it is quite corrupt. Jeremiah 8:8 is quite explicit. Some will try to say it's referring to other books and commentaries, but chapter 7 specifically calls out animal sacrifice laws, which are plentiful in our current Torah.

There are no hints of an infallible canon of books. Ironically that idea was copied from Marcion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Marcion used a limited number of books, and only one Gospel: The Gospel of the Lord. I also found a lot of similarities between the Gospel of Thomas and our current synoptic Gospels.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes I am quite familiar with Marcion's Bible. It's something they don't want you to know about because it's full of clues about what older copies of the books he used looked like. I also managed to locate Matthew in Hebrew, another source for which there seems to be a conspiracy to discredit. It seems Mark may actually have been written in Latin, because its old Latin has quite a few strange agreements with the Hebrew Matthew, not to mention the writing style. There's a lot you're not supposed to know about, but I've found it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The New Testament was written in koine Greek.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most likely. Excluding Matthew and probably Mark. And all the gospel books are assembled from fragments in different languages. I haven't looked into it too much but there was also a Hebrew Revelation, James, and Jude found; and there does seem to be something to it, but I think those books are all forgeries anyway. There is a Hebrew Hebrews but I haven't really looked into that at all. Paul is pure Greek.