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[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

God is not stuck in a religious building or trapped in a book. God is closer to you than your nose is to your face. How can you not see him? It is because you are blind and you do not want to see him. All you would have to do is sincerely desire the truth, and you would notice his presence is with you and has been with you.

No man can truly perceive God unless he has at least a tiny spark of love in his heart, because God's fundamental nature is love. Most men suffocate that spark and harden their hearts as they grow cold, removing all trace of God from their lives.

A man shall reap what he sows. If he does not want love, then love will depart. And how awful is an existence without love. There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

I don't believe that the true god is who Christians today say he is. I believe the two most truthful things in the new testament concerning god is "god is light" and "god is love" (1st Jn). That is it. NDEs are my religion, and if you knew my life experience over the past 7 years, you wouldn't have made these claims that I don't want to see god. Seeing god means going within through meditation.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

if you knew my life experience...

It is true that I do not know you, but God knows every detail of your life, even before your life began on earth. And he values your soul.

...you wouldn't have made these claims that I don't want to see god.

You say you believe God is love and light, yet you reject the divinity of Jesus.

i don't believe Jesus died for the sins of the world. I do not believe in any of the supernatural miracles...

You do not believe Jesus performed any miracles out of his love for mankind, like feeding the hungry, healing the sick, releasing people from demonic possession, and raising the dead? You do not believe he died for the sins of the world? And yet Jesus is the very image of God himself. So if you refuse Jesus, you have rejected God. That is why I say you are blind. But there is hope for you, because Jesus also heals the blind. If you are seeking God, what happens when you pray to Him? If you ask God to show you the truth, and answer you clearly: Who is Jesus? What does God show you? What fault do you find in him?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

We are all images of God, just not the Christian God. I can't reject God, because I come from God, and so do you and everyone else on earth. Reincarnation is truth.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

We are all images of God, just not the Christian God.

God is perfect, so how can you, with all your imperfections, be his image?

The "Christian God", whom you reject, is Jesus Christ, who is the Lord God Almighty, who is Lord of lords, King of kings, and God of gods. The Holy Bible also calls Jesus the Word of God made flesh. The words he spoke were the words spoken by God. What fault do you find in his words? What fault do you find in Jesus that prevents you from accepting him as the image of God?

I can't reject God, because I come from God...

Lucifer came from God, and yet he rejected God, and all his followers with him. If you reject Jesus, how are you any different from Lucifer, who became God's opposite? Wouldn't you actually be an image of God's adversary?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Your God - the one you believe in - is not perfect. In your old testament, yhwh regrets making man and displays profound levels of ignorance in creating everything.

I believe that Jesus was most likely a normal man who was enlightened while on earth, and I don't believe in any supernatural claims made in the Bible. There are a lot of things in the Bible that teach good lessons, and some not so good.

The true God doesn't condemn or judge us to hell. God is a God of pure unconditional love. Love doesn't judge, but your Bible God does.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

yhwh regrets making man and displays profound levels of ignorance in creating everything.

God made everything perfect. But for the sake of giving the created beings the highest bliss and perfection, he gave them free will. Those that turned against God and followed his adversary became evil, the opposite of God. But God in no wise created evil.

Before the great flood, God saw that the wickedness in man's heart was continually evil, as it is again today. He was sorry to see what he created turn against him.

The true God doesn't condemn or judge us to hell. God is a God of pure unconditional love. Love doesn't judge, but your Bible God does.

But isn't that what God said through Jesus, as recorded in the Bible?

"And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world." John 12:47 KJV

"Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man." John 8:15 KJV

God does not send people to hell, and God also does not force people to go to heaven. But some reject God and fall away from him into the abyss. There are few that find the path that leads to life.

I invite you to try again and find a fault with the word that Jesus spoke, which is the word of God, since so far you have come up empty handed.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

This response of yours is the standard Christian excuse making for YHWH. You should read up on gnostic thought and also look into Marcion - he had the first Bible and didn't think YHWH was the father of Jesus.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You are telling me to read something, but have you even read the Bible? I mean cover to cover. It appears you gave up on my challenge to find a fault in the word of God which Jesus spoke.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes I have. I'm an ex fundamentalist Christian. You balk at being told to read something? Marcion came first...aren't you interested in early Christianity? If not, never mind. You should also study how the Bible came to be, and look into all of the texts that were excluded from the cannon. Also, Martin Luther came along later and changed the cannon, and that's how we got the protestant Bible. The Catholics have a lot more books

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

^(Shhh, the masses aren't supposed to find out about that stuff)

I think Marcion simply misunderstood the Old Testament, which I can't really blame him for seeing as it's almost entirely cryptic. Very few people get it, and no one understands all of it. It didn't help that Polycarp or whoever did it reacted to ideas like his by writing fake letters from the disciples condemning them. The Catholic church seems to have thought it had total authority. I think it might have been a Roman plot to subvert Christianity.

These days even thinking heaven will be a spiritual rather than fleshly existence is enough to get you called gnostic. The mainstream is really going hardcore worldly.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I disagree, there's nothing mysterious about YHWH's bloodthirsty tantrums.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The Bible God does and also doesn't. It's a contradiction. Because unlike people seem to think for some reason, the book is NOT perfect and was written by PEOPLE. And it never claims otherwise.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Check out Two Old Dudes on YouTube. I agree the Bible is not inerrant, but Christians will claim it is.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The Bible will actually tell you it is quite corrupt. Jeremiah 8:8 is quite explicit. Some will try to say it's referring to other books and commentaries, but chapter 7 specifically calls out animal sacrifice laws, which are plentiful in our current Torah.

There are no hints of an infallible canon of books. Ironically that idea was copied from Marcion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Marcion used a limited number of books, and only one Gospel: The Gospel of the Lord. I also found a lot of similarities between the Gospel of Thomas and our current synoptic Gospels.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The notion of law in the Bible seems to be code for karmic debt. "Whatever you do to others will be done to you". That's why people are repeatedly warned not to demand law, even in the Old Testament. Because it's impossible to be perfect, so you'll always rack up impossible amounts of debt, and keep doing so in the process of trying to pay off what you already have, and reincarnate forever. But by the same token if you don't demand justice, such graciousness will also be paid back to you, so there's a loophole. And perhaps with the help of a ransom.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The golden rule is karmic, taught in the New Testament. According to Old Testament law, which Jesus contradicts, you are to return good for good, evil for evil. Jesus said to forgive and love.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Old Testament law is literally the definition of karma. Forgive and love banishes any karmic debt or need for reincarnation to pay for it.