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[–]In-the-clouds 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (56 children)

Telling the truth got Jesus crucified.... for your sake.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (55 children)

I'm not a Christian and I don't believe a lot of what's the orthodox protestant or Catholic bibles or dogmas.

[–]In-the-clouds 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (54 children)

I didn't ask you if you were religious. I simply stated something that is true.... but that does not go along with the public indoctrination of the schools, the media, man-made churches, or government, so it is difficult for people to believe. Most of those people do not want to know the truth. But some of the most profound truths are in plain sight, and most reject it. They even feel hostile toward it. I used to be like that, too.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (53 children)

i don't believe Jesus died for the sins of the world. I do not believe in any of the supernatural miracles in the Bible at all. I think today's Christianity in it's many forms doesn't accurately represent early Christianity. Once again, you made a religious statement about Christ's death, and that is what I was responding to.

What is a truth hiding in plain sight to you?

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (48 children)

God is not stuck in a religious building or trapped in a book. God is closer to you than your nose is to your face. How can you not see him? It is because you are blind and you do not want to see him. All you would have to do is sincerely desire the truth, and you would notice his presence is with you and has been with you.

No man can truly perceive God unless he has at least a tiny spark of love in his heart, because God's fundamental nature is love. Most men suffocate that spark and harden their hearts as they grow cold, removing all trace of God from their lives.

A man shall reap what he sows. If he does not want love, then love will depart. And how awful is an existence without love. There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (47 children)

I don't believe that the true god is who Christians today say he is. I believe the two most truthful things in the new testament concerning god is "god is light" and "god is love" (1st Jn). That is it. NDEs are my religion, and if you knew my life experience over the past 7 years, you wouldn't have made these claims that I don't want to see god. Seeing god means going within through meditation.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

if you knew my life experience...

It is true that I do not know you, but God knows every detail of your life, even before your life began on earth. And he values your soul.

...you wouldn't have made these claims that I don't want to see god.

You say you believe God is love and light, yet you reject the divinity of Jesus.

i don't believe Jesus died for the sins of the world. I do not believe in any of the supernatural miracles...

You do not believe Jesus performed any miracles out of his love for mankind, like feeding the hungry, healing the sick, releasing people from demonic possession, and raising the dead? You do not believe he died for the sins of the world? And yet Jesus is the very image of God himself. So if you refuse Jesus, you have rejected God. That is why I say you are blind. But there is hope for you, because Jesus also heals the blind. If you are seeking God, what happens when you pray to Him? If you ask God to show you the truth, and answer you clearly: Who is Jesus? What does God show you? What fault do you find in him?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

We are all images of God, just not the Christian God. I can't reject God, because I come from God, and so do you and everyone else on earth. Reincarnation is truth.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

We are all images of God, just not the Christian God.

God is perfect, so how can you, with all your imperfections, be his image?

The "Christian God", whom you reject, is Jesus Christ, who is the Lord God Almighty, who is Lord of lords, King of kings, and God of gods. The Holy Bible also calls Jesus the Word of God made flesh. The words he spoke were the words spoken by God. What fault do you find in his words? What fault do you find in Jesus that prevents you from accepting him as the image of God?

I can't reject God, because I come from God...

Lucifer came from God, and yet he rejected God, and all his followers with him. If you reject Jesus, how are you any different from Lucifer, who became God's opposite? Wouldn't you actually be an image of God's adversary?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Your God - the one you believe in - is not perfect. In your old testament, yhwh regrets making man and displays profound levels of ignorance in creating everything.

I believe that Jesus was most likely a normal man who was enlightened while on earth, and I don't believe in any supernatural claims made in the Bible. There are a lot of things in the Bible that teach good lessons, and some not so good.

The true God doesn't condemn or judge us to hell. God is a God of pure unconditional love. Love doesn't judge, but your Bible God does.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The notion of law in the Bible seems to be code for karmic debt. "Whatever you do to others will be done to you". That's why people are repeatedly warned not to demand law, even in the Old Testament. Because it's impossible to be perfect, so you'll always rack up impossible amounts of debt, and keep doing so in the process of trying to pay off what you already have, and reincarnate forever. But by the same token if you don't demand justice, such graciousness will also be paid back to you, so there's a loophole. And perhaps with the help of a ransom.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The golden rule is karmic, taught in the New Testament. According to Old Testament law, which Jesus contradicts, you are to return good for good, evil for evil. Jesus said to forgive and love.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

NDEs?! I'm sure you're aware of the light tunnel trap then. Have you heard of or seen "the wheel"? I came across some really mind-blowing stuff, things I just know I've seen before but the matrix is keeping my memory from me. They even spy on me and locked me down so hard it's impossible to be creative, lucid dream, have accurate intuition, etc. You have any ideas for how to exit the matrix?

Modern Christianity is a diversion from everything Jesus and his followers taught. Notice how it now in fact teaches the exact opposite: never forgive never forget, hate your enemies, spirit bad world good, legalism, judgementalism, statism, traditions of men, pride, marrying and having babies and a nuclear family is the most important thing in the world, God is bound to a book, meekness is weakness, and the list goes on and on.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I spent time trolling doomers on r/escapingprisonplanet and r/reincarnation truth. I don't believe in the white light trap theory. The people that have had NDEs have radically positive experiences and their lives change for the better.

Exiting the Matrix means dying. Simple as.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I spent time trolling dormers on r/escapingprisonplanet and r/reincarnation truth.

Oh I read those, how did you know!

The people that have had NDEs have radically positive experiences and their lives change for the better.

Well obviously. If you're going to design a trap, you give it bait that the victim will be attracted to, not run away from. Remember how psychopaths can be extraordinarily loving sometimes but quietly murder and torture millions at other times, with no remorse. That something feels or seems loving and good doesn't mean it's actually good.

The longer I live the clearer it is to me that any good in this world is just like Chancellor Palpatine, who is really Darth Sideous. It's also like roses: they look pretty, but they're really covered in thorns. It's also like many animals: they look adorable, but they're vicious and torture for fun. And people are perhaps the worst of all; they've simply gotten better at hiding it with more competitors to hold them accountable. Just enough appearance of good to make people fight to protect the system, but little enough to ensure that vast majority is beyond miserable for ages and ages.

Dying cannot mean exiting the matrix if you're simply reincarnated again.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Well obviously. If you're going to design a trap, you give it bait that the victim will be attracted to, not run away from.

I don't buy it. The WLT theory gives evil extraordinary powers over us. I believe once we're done here, we go to a better place, although there are exceptions depending on what you've done, and there are also debts charged or debts occurred while down here.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I wouldn't doubt the "supernatural". The very fact that we and world we live in exist is supernatural.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

When's the last time you or anyone else has seen a dead man come to life, graves open up in graveyards and a man in a body ascend into the clouds?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm sure it's rare but that doesn't make it impossible. Plus I wouldn't put it past the writers to be biased in favor of extraordinary claims.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol