Why Are Kids Allowed to Look At Porn?

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[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

He claims kids drinking and smoking underage isn't a big thing.

[–]RealCheekClapper[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, I don't think 16 or 17 year olds having a few beers or going through an edgy smoking phase is that big of a deal, certainly not relative to 10 year olds looking at pornhub whenever they want.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's all about amount accessibility and social acceptance.

16 or 17 is too young to drink but the kids are going to do it anyway and it's not the end of the world if they do. But you can't just throw your hands up be like "well hurr Durr they gonna do it anyway let's make it legal and encourage them"

Cause if you could get legal booze and cigs at 16 or 17 you'd be well towards creating those big social problems both can cause.

Porn is similar. If a 15 or 16 year old finds a few nude magazines. That's not really a big deal. If they have immediate free and absolute access to all forms of pornography imaginable at all times anywhere without any controls whatsoever, well that leads to problems. Imagine a world where you could just download a beer for free whenever, or tequila? Kids would all become alcoholics.

The real question going down the line is what is the appropriate response to deal with pornography. People want to argue that it's not a "1st ammendment" issue but in many ways it is, you've got to define what porn is and what it isn't, but then you've got to give the government power to go in and stop the kids from getting at it and I question entirely, how you would do that? Like exactly how? You could break the internet, censor everything that isn't pre-approved by the government. That would fuck up the internet for everyone, but you'd still have the illegal internet out there or the foreign internet that could be accessed by anyone with a medium of tech knowledge and the kids would still have their unlimited porn access.

I think we've got to be smart about this, and go after the people making the pornography in the first place. Especially the advertisers. You've got to get them where the money is. Sites like porn hub are very obviously in the pornography game so there's no 1st amendment quandaries. Well you make it illegal for them to sell adult advertisements to children. Then you seize the money when they can't prove that their views are from legal adults. They'll figure out the best way to prevent kids from getting on after that. Could do the sting operations where the cop gets some underaged kid to try to access the site and when they do hit them with fines.

There's ways to cope with it. Of course responsibility does ultimately rely on the parents to enforce but the changing of technology does leave them out of the loop much of the time. These days I think you've practically got to remove any sort of un-supervised internet access from your kids until they are old enough to pay for their own. But I do think you've got to find a balance between letting the kids play with the new technologies so they can learn them vs protecting them from the problems they cause. You've just got to make very clear, reasonable, and deliberate rules.

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

One easy good step would be forcing all porn to be on the .xxx or .adult TLDs by law. Then it would be easier for parents to block it. Clever kids could use a VPN or something but at least it'd be harder than just typing facefuck into a search engine

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah we should definitely get on Google and other search engines for making it easily accessible to kids. But it's not going to be easy to force the change. Again you have you define exactly what porn is, then you've got plenty of overseas domains that won't be subjected to the law.

[–]RealCheekClapper[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree with basically all of this. Although an interesting and I guess somewhat relevant thing about alcohol is that here on the continent (in Spain, France and Italy for example) it's more normal for kids to have alcohol at home when they're 14, 15 or so, and yet they have way less problems with underage binge drinking compared to the UK, where alcohol is strictly controlled and yet it's a huge problem. That said, in America the drinking age is 21 and they seemingly have less of a problem than the UK. So it's hard to deduce much from. Either way, I'm not for a minute suggesting we should apply that same principle to porn. I can't imagine anything worse than my mum sitting me down to watch a BangBros vid.

As for enforcing the laws I don't think it would be that difficult, I think they could create a simple means of verifying age that doesn't compromise the rest of your identity. With all the obsessive "safeguarding" and controls on the internet these days it's a small feature to add. Not to mention that all your info is already possessed by your ISP anyway so it's not exactly a breach of your privacy. If they're gonna kick people's doors down for saying the n word on twitter then they can make porn as hard to get hold of as cigarettes.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As for enforcing the laws I don't think it would be that difficult, I think they could create a simple means of verifying age that doesn't compromise the rest of your identity.

Begs the question how. I don't think it's that simple. Sure you could do something ineffectual but it's kind of like the "simple solution to gun violence is banning guns" the guys that follow the law will turn theirs in, but they aren't the ones doing the gun crime.