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[–]Alienhunter 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

No! She doesn't understand! The other side is evil and hates America. The only way we can save our country from them is to get out and vote against them!

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Vote harder!

Vote like you mean it!

Vote like your life depends upon it.

[–]LordoftheFlies 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If you really care about making sure that the right candidate wins, vote twice even!

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

She must secretly be working for whichever side you're not on!

[–]LordoftheFlies 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Careful, you keep saying things like that and someone will schedule you for a Clinton Suicide.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

muh enlightened centrism

[–]Alienhunter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Nah see here's the fun bit.

Americans are basically brainwashed into thinking that the two parties hold a monopoly on political opinion. When in reality they hold only a monopoly on political power. Two very different things.

One can of course be in disagreement with both parties, and hold the opinion that both parties are corrupt, and not actually be a centrist. Actually you could be very far right, or far left, or anywhere in between. Actually you'd be in the majority position. Pretty much all Americans think both parties are corrupt. Pretty much all Americans don't support their party because they like them. They just are worried that the other guys are worse and will destroy the country.

Single issue voters essentially kill democracy. It's all about finding that one single issue that is so controversial that it will elicit a strong enough emotional response people will vote for that issue and that issue alone to the detriment of all other issues. Which is why you see stuff like, trans stuff, LGBTQ, environment, and abortion dominate people's opinions, and not boring shit like, should the fed raise the interest rate, should we consider lowering the tariff on sugar imports, and other economic issues that effect the everyday life of everyone. But you won't get the same fervor of the voting block towards those.

I know some people will thumb their nose at the economic issues being less important than the moral issues. Possibly right?

But as I've always said. Why does it matter if you can get an abortion or not if you can't afford it? What is the point in banning abortions if people can't afford to have kids anyway? Why get gay married if you can't afford a house?

Congratulations, you have the right to choose, but the right to choose is useless if you don't have the ability to choose.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is not some giant epiphany, and I'm not sure what you expect people to do with it anyway.

Not be single-issue voters? I don't think I am. I voted for Obama because Dubya's stupidity and profligacy offended me. I voted for Trump because, well, Hillary is an oven-stuffing psychopath.

More seriously, I voted for Trump because of social issues. I don't consider abortion a triviality, and it's really just the foot in the door anyway, particularly for transhumanism. The Project Veritas "I want a Lamborghini!" video wasn't about abortion so much as it was about trafficking in fetus heads.

I am not a single-issue voter on abortion. Rather, the two parties' reactions to that video told me everything I needed to know about their attitudes toward human life.

Going forward, I cannot imagine supporting a Republican who's pushing (or has pushed) this Ukraine nonsense. That might end up trumping social concerns for me. It might, or might not, end up trumping economic concerns.

Your depressing attempt at an epiphany aside, there are pro-war and anti-war wings of both parties. There will be candidates from both parties who are economic idiots, and candidates who are not. Both parties have primary processes that allow these people to fight it out.

There is at least the potential my voice will be heard; pretty sure Hillary heard it.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are two candidates. Neither represent your interests well, but you'll vote for one of them anyway because you prefer that the other not get in.

Americans lament low voter turnout. I think the voter turnout is far too high. You get what? 40, 50% in a presidential election? If it really reflected the idea of people coming out who truly supported one of the candidates on the ballot, it would be closer to what, 20%?

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Neither represent your interests well, but you'll vote for one of them anyway because you prefer that the other not get in.

There are almost always candidates in the primary who reflect my views pretty closely- Ted Cruz, Ron Paul, and even Trump. I liked Trump a hell of a lot better than Romney, McCain, Dubya, etc., and in that sense my voice was heard.

The problem wasn't the election, it was the way the other side reacted to it. I don't know WTF to do about that; there's no constitutional change that can reasonably stop people from making up pandemics or bitching on Twitter.

I do think the franchise is too expansive. Somewhere along the way, we made the mistake of thinking that everyone needed to vote.

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We are in elite Dom 2.0 @ usurper Dom 2.0
and headed for 3.0, if the so-called 'Awake" continue to mind gatekeep each other
-- i.e. suck up each others' time & energy focusing on what's wrong with the current system --
rather than building a mind shift avalanche for usurper-free Dom to & bury the current system.
 
In pictures.
 

[–]Oyveygoyim 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's right, goyim. It's the politicians and DEFINITELY NOT the people who own our politicians.