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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Being gay is simply a case of nurture over nature, as it is a learned behavior and not genetic.

It can be sure, but if it is 100% nurture then why do we have gay animals, they don't have propaganda, not to mention the many studies showing differences in the brain structure of homosexuals. Literally nothing is 100% nature or 100% nurture, and both are always capable of causation.

What makes some people more susceptible to propaganda in roughly similar environments?

Human Sexuality has a Heritable Component

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41465642

They say genes account for half the variance

Can you cite me some literature supporting your 100% nurture theorem explaining why everyone else is wrong?

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We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

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We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

I'm actually inclined to agree with all of that, but its a semantic point. There are still animals that do same-sex sex, and animals that dont, if you changed the wording of my comment it wouldn't change the substance of my argument.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

It can change, but not everyones will, just how fluid this situation is for everyone is pretty debatable, and you just said there isn't such thing as sexuality, I don't see a particularly compelling reason your arguments wouldn't apply to human animals if you are going to apply this categorically

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I think we agree then. I don't believe human animals have sexuality, homosexual, heterosexual - at all.