The LGBT's Selecting Themselves Out Of The Gene Pool Is A Good Thing

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nope, there are animals who have been observed to be exclusively homosexual, not just occasionally having sex with the same sex. And we can even now create such animals in the lab by altering hormones in the womb. So we also know why it happens.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They've also gotten that behavior through damaging brain tissue, which doesn't prove there is an innate sexuality.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think Gizmo is gay.

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We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

I'm actually inclined to agree with all of that, but its a semantic point. There are still animals that do same-sex sex, and animals that dont, if you changed the wording of my comment it wouldn't change the substance of my argument.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

It can change, but not everyones will, just how fluid this situation is for everyone is pretty debatable, and you just said there isn't such thing as sexuality, I don't see a particularly compelling reason your arguments wouldn't apply to human animals if you are going to apply this categorically

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we agree then. I don't believe human animals have sexuality, homosexual, heterosexual - at all.