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[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

There is no such thing as a gay or straight people. Everyone is simply sexual, as they like to fuck.

Being gay is simply a case of nurture over nature, as it is a learned behavior and not genetic.

So your base premise that it can be breed out of the gene pool is wrong.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Being gay is simply a case of nurture over nature, as it is a learned behavior and not genetic.

It can be sure, but if it is 100% nurture then why do we have gay animals, they don't have propaganda, not to mention the many studies showing differences in the brain structure of homosexuals. Literally nothing is 100% nature or 100% nurture, and both are always capable of causation.

What makes some people more susceptible to propaganda in roughly similar environments?

Human Sexuality has a Heritable Component

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41465642

They say genes account for half the variance

Can you cite me some literature supporting your 100% nurture theorem explaining why everyone else is wrong?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nope, there are animals who have been observed to be exclusively homosexual, not just occasionally having sex with the same sex. And we can even now create such animals in the lab by altering hormones in the womb. So we also know why it happens.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They've also gotten that behavior through damaging brain tissue, which doesn't prove there is an innate sexuality.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think Gizmo is gay.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

I'm actually inclined to agree with all of that, but its a semantic point. There are still animals that do same-sex sex, and animals that dont, if you changed the wording of my comment it wouldn't change the substance of my argument.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

It can change, but not everyones will, just how fluid this situation is for everyone is pretty debatable, and you just said there isn't such thing as sexuality, I don't see a particularly compelling reason your arguments wouldn't apply to human animals if you are going to apply this categorically

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we agree then. I don't believe human animals have sexuality, homosexual, heterosexual - at all.

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because homosexuality is Nature's way of weeding out the defectives from the gene pool.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah thats the main point I was trying to make people consider

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

why do we have gay animals,

You already know the answer to that Question. They like to fuck. It's not complicated.

What makes some people more susceptible to propaganda in roughly similar environments?

upbringing and environment and social environment. That's nurture. Maybe if your girlfriends has a big pussy, you might get turned off by woman, but that's still mostly nurture, and you don't know about good pussy and don't know you can still have good sex in spite of her lack of tightness. Kind of like how ugly gay dudes can only get with other ugly gay dudes.

They say genes account for half the variance

Don't know who they are, don't give a fuck. Genetic variants are pairing down, not expanding. There is no 'gay' gene to remove which is why there are always gays and bisexual, as it's just people having sex.

Can you cite me some literature supporting your 100% nurture theorem explaining why everyone else is wrong?

Sure can. I'm doing it right now in real time. As it's my theory, and I am telling it to you currently.

You need a link? Give me a second.

here you go!

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So you have no supporting evidence for your completely made up theory, got it

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

your completely made up theory, got it

Oh, is my theory "made up"? News flash buddy. All theories are.

So you have no supporting evidence

The fact that people like to fuck? It's self evident.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The fact that people like to fuck? It's self evident.

I like to fuck, how come I don't wanna fuck any men?

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Because you didn't do it early in life during your upbringing. It was too taboo, and you know what good pussy feels like. And unlike ugly dudes you've never been that desperate. You don't freak out when you jack it do you? Of course not. But you did do that one thing once, that you don't tell anybody about... Because you like to fuck.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm so bored of bisexuals and virgins with zero experience thinking everyone secretly has the same feelings about sexual attraction that they do. No, you are a tiny minority. Most people have a clear sexuality which not only prefers males or females but finds the other sexually disgusting.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Next you are going to tell me that coffee isn't an acquired taste but a genetic preference. Yes, some people find coffee disgusting.

I'm so bored

I don't care.

Most people have a clear sexuality

Yes. As do I. I'm straight.

No, you are a tiny minority.

Oh no! the straight race is dying out!

Well that was amusing and utterly pointless. Now go bark up some other tree. And make sure to raise assumptions about your intended target. They'll really appreciate it! Just as much as I have!

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The amount of bitterness you can stand is indeed genetic. Bitter plants are often poisonous so you need to be careful when eating them. Often when women get pregnant their tastes change to avoid bitter foods as they need to be more careful than usual.

Similarly sexual instincts are also mostly genetic. And having a sexuality targeted towards the partner which causes the creation of children is clearly going to positively selected over just being sexual.

I'm not sure why my comments triggered you. Maybe because you know you are talking or your arse with nothing to back it up.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Aww, bby 😥