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[–]EternalSunset 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If it's all about genetics then why are they growing so fast? I don't deny that it does probably has some evolutive ramifications, but I think that the degrading effect this is having in our national cultures is far more damaging than whatever conceivable genetic effects this could achieve in a similar timespan.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If it's all about genetics then why are they growing so fast?

As you said, because the propaganda has grown so fast, but its still only the susceptible minority that turn LGBT, not the majority, suggesting something inherent to their nature (genes) rather than the propaganda environment (nurture) they are all exposed to is the determining factor in deciding if an individual is able to be LGBT'd by propaganda. I posit a genetic susceptibility to suggestion, a cattle gene if you will.

I think that the degrading effect this is having in our national cultures

How do you know this isn't a symptom of pre-existing cultural degeneracy, rather than the cause of it. Yada Yada Ted Kaczynski, an alienated cog in the industrial capitalist machine creates a corrupted desire for individuality expressed as gender identity. Calhoun's experiments on rats simulating urban environments with plentiful resources turning rats gay, etc. I think it is perfectly plausible causation works the opposite way from what you are assuming with plenty of supporting theories

[–]EternalSunset 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think you are making some fine points. What I do disagree with is the implicit conclusion that since it might have some degree of an eugenic effect, then this cultural condition itself is not negative or at least that it shouldn't be opposed to due to it's silver linings. Think of the other side of the coin: If you were to have a child of your own would you want him to be exposed to such influences when he goes to school, watches cartoons, browses the internet and even he reads books meant for children?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Think of the other side of the coin: If you were to have a child of your own would you want him to be exposed to such influences when he goes to school, watches cartoons, browses the internet and even he reads books meant for children?

I'd admit to being somewhat but not overly concerned. One reason is that I think am right, rather than being absolutely sure I am right, the other is that even if I was right, I would still have a selfish interest in my own child, even if this was at odds with the interest of the greater good

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's no such thing as "the greater good". It's only ever mentioned when attempting to justify atrocities, and no one can ever identify or explain what it is.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It isn't in their genes. It's the same reason there are some "pre-primed" for PTSD and come home messed up after being involved in some crazy things while others aren't. They have pre-existing trauma. In this case it may be generic trauma, but often sexual trauma, and definitely in life, they've been pushed to an out-group. When you're a kid and don't belong, you ask why. When the answer is that people who don't belong might be gay or trans (or have alters like the current evolution of this), it becomes an option but also an answer to some who are looking for a cause.