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[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

There is no such thing as a gay or straight people. Everyone is simply sexual, as they like to fuck.

Being gay is simply a case of nurture over nature, as it is a learned behavior and not genetic.

So your base premise that it can be breed out of the gene pool is wrong.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Being gay is simply a case of nurture over nature, as it is a learned behavior and not genetic.

It can be sure, but if it is 100% nurture then why do we have gay animals, they don't have propaganda, not to mention the many studies showing differences in the brain structure of homosexuals. Literally nothing is 100% nature or 100% nurture, and both are always capable of causation.

What makes some people more susceptible to propaganda in roughly similar environments?

Human Sexuality has a Heritable Component

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41465642

They say genes account for half the variance

Can you cite me some literature supporting your 100% nurture theorem explaining why everyone else is wrong?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nope, there are animals who have been observed to be exclusively homosexual, not just occasionally having sex with the same sex. And we can even now create such animals in the lab by altering hormones in the womb. So we also know why it happens.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They've also gotten that behavior through damaging brain tissue, which doesn't prove there is an innate sexuality.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think Gizmo is gay.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't have gay animals. We have animals that sometimes have same-sex "sex." If there were anything real called "sexuality," then I have three lesbian ducks. Every morning they get in the pond and fuck. It turns out that when a male isn't around (maybe even if there is, we haven't had one), it's literally how they determine their pecking order. My female dogs will also do the same - hump each other for dominance.

There is no evidence of anything considered a "sexual orientation" in animals despite the appearance of "gay" sex, there are no "gay" animals.

I'm actually inclined to agree with all of that, but its a semantic point. There are still animals that do same-sex sex, and animals that dont, if you changed the wording of my comment it wouldn't change the substance of my argument.

*Edited to add, that human sexuality is known to be fluid and changes. That's a fact.

It can change, but not everyones will, just how fluid this situation is for everyone is pretty debatable, and you just said there isn't such thing as sexuality, I don't see a particularly compelling reason your arguments wouldn't apply to human animals if you are going to apply this categorically

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we agree then. I don't believe human animals have sexuality, homosexual, heterosexual - at all.

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because homosexuality is Nature's way of weeding out the defectives from the gene pool.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah thats the main point I was trying to make people consider

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

why do we have gay animals,

You already know the answer to that Question. They like to fuck. It's not complicated.

What makes some people more susceptible to propaganda in roughly similar environments?

upbringing and environment and social environment. That's nurture. Maybe if your girlfriends has a big pussy, you might get turned off by woman, but that's still mostly nurture, and you don't know about good pussy and don't know you can still have good sex in spite of her lack of tightness. Kind of like how ugly gay dudes can only get with other ugly gay dudes.

They say genes account for half the variance

Don't know who they are, don't give a fuck. Genetic variants are pairing down, not expanding. There is no 'gay' gene to remove which is why there are always gays and bisexual, as it's just people having sex.

Can you cite me some literature supporting your 100% nurture theorem explaining why everyone else is wrong?

Sure can. I'm doing it right now in real time. As it's my theory, and I am telling it to you currently.

You need a link? Give me a second.

here you go!

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So you have no supporting evidence for your completely made up theory, got it

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

your completely made up theory, got it

Oh, is my theory "made up"? News flash buddy. All theories are.

So you have no supporting evidence

The fact that people like to fuck? It's self evident.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The fact that people like to fuck? It's self evident.

I like to fuck, how come I don't wanna fuck any men?

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Because you didn't do it early in life during your upbringing. It was too taboo, and you know what good pussy feels like. And unlike ugly dudes you've never been that desperate. You don't freak out when you jack it do you? Of course not. But you did do that one thing once, that you don't tell anybody about... Because you like to fuck.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm so bored of bisexuals and virgins with zero experience thinking everyone secretly has the same feelings about sexual attraction that they do. No, you are a tiny minority. Most people have a clear sexuality which not only prefers males or females but finds the other sexually disgusting.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Next you are going to tell me that coffee isn't an acquired taste but a genetic preference. Yes, some people find coffee disgusting.

I'm so bored

I don't care.

Most people have a clear sexuality

Yes. As do I. I'm straight.

No, you are a tiny minority.

Oh no! the straight race is dying out!

Well that was amusing and utterly pointless. Now go bark up some other tree. And make sure to raise assumptions about your intended target. They'll really appreciate it! Just as much as I have!

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The amount of bitterness you can stand is indeed genetic. Bitter plants are often poisonous so you need to be careful when eating them. Often when women get pregnant their tastes change to avoid bitter foods as they need to be more careful than usual.

Similarly sexual instincts are also mostly genetic. And having a sexuality targeted towards the partner which causes the creation of children is clearly going to positively selected over just being sexual.

I'm not sure why my comments triggered you. Maybe because you know you are talking or your arse with nothing to back it up.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Aww, bby 😥

[–]1Icemonkey 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Make no mistake, they reproduce regularly by molesting children.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Children can get pregnant?

[–]1Icemonkey 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No numbnuts. A faggot reproduces by diddling a little boy. The little boy grows up to be a faggot and the cycle repeats, hence reproduction.

Edit: deleted last sentence.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are women who have given birth at eight.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, there are girls at 8 who have given birth. I believe the youngest girl we have on record of being raped and impregnated was 5.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The father was arrested, but later released due to lack of evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm personally a fan of voluntarily eugenics, but a couple thoughts:

There is the "Gay Uncle Hypothesis," that gay relatives promote their genetics by supporting their heterosexual family members.

And if the rainbow Nazis have been busy removing themselves from the gene pool since presumably the dawn of humanity, why aren't they gone already? If it was a self-corrrecting problem, I'd think it should have happened already.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's cultural, otherwise there wouldn't be any of them left.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's cultural, otherwise there wouldn't be any of them left.

I would argue the people susceptible to cultural nonsense to the point of delusions and self mutilation are inferior specimens not fit to reproduce.

We barely have real natural selection anymore, this is natures way of removing the unfit in an environment with rare natural deaths. See Calhoun's studies on the rats he made gay in a similar environment (plentiful resources, crowded living spaces, i.e. urbanites of some privilege, like cities in the US)

[–]GraviAss We Can 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The gene pool is stagnant and I am the administrator of chlorine!

[–]Rah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They pull otherwise innocent families while they slide to hell. Degeneracy is good for those wanting to destroy civilizations because the destruction is always magnitudes higher than just the practicioners.

[–]EternalSunset 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

They will just start cloning themselves once the technology is out there. We have to cut the evil by the root and stop letting them spread their propaganda to children.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

We have to cut the evil by the root and stop letting them spread their propaganda to children.

Even with all the propaganda and increased LGBT identification, the vast majority of people don't end up identifying as LGBT. Are you so sure that the very fact they are susceptible to such extreme and idiotic propaganda isn't evidence they are inherently inferior sheeple who are lacking in agency, and hence a good that they are removed from the gene pool?

[–]EternalSunset 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Cull the worst 20% from the gene pool as they prevent the most easily swayed cattle from reproducing with their propaganda, still not seeing the problem, seems eugenic to me

[–]EternalSunset 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If it's all about genetics then why are they growing so fast? I don't deny that it does probably has some evolutive ramifications, but I think that the degrading effect this is having in our national cultures is far more damaging than whatever conceivable genetic effects this could achieve in a similar timespan.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If it's all about genetics then why are they growing so fast?

As you said, because the propaganda has grown so fast, but its still only the susceptible minority that turn LGBT, not the majority, suggesting something inherent to their nature (genes) rather than the propaganda environment (nurture) they are all exposed to is the determining factor in deciding if an individual is able to be LGBT'd by propaganda. I posit a genetic susceptibility to suggestion, a cattle gene if you will.

I think that the degrading effect this is having in our national cultures

How do you know this isn't a symptom of pre-existing cultural degeneracy, rather than the cause of it. Yada Yada Ted Kaczynski, an alienated cog in the industrial capitalist machine creates a corrupted desire for individuality expressed as gender identity. Calhoun's experiments on rats simulating urban environments with plentiful resources turning rats gay, etc. I think it is perfectly plausible causation works the opposite way from what you are assuming with plenty of supporting theories

[–]EternalSunset 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think you are making some fine points. What I do disagree with is the implicit conclusion that since it might have some degree of an eugenic effect, then this cultural condition itself is not negative or at least that it shouldn't be opposed to due to it's silver linings. Think of the other side of the coin: If you were to have a child of your own would you want him to be exposed to such influences when he goes to school, watches cartoons, browses the internet and even he reads books meant for children?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Think of the other side of the coin: If you were to have a child of your own would you want him to be exposed to such influences when he goes to school, watches cartoons, browses the internet and even he reads books meant for children?

I'd admit to being somewhat but not overly concerned. One reason is that I think am right, rather than being absolutely sure I am right, the other is that even if I was right, I would still have a selfish interest in my own child, even if this was at odds with the interest of the greater good

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's no such thing as "the greater good". It's only ever mentioned when attempting to justify atrocities, and no one can ever identify or explain what it is.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It isn't in their genes. It's the same reason there are some "pre-primed" for PTSD and come home messed up after being involved in some crazy things while others aren't. They have pre-existing trauma. In this case it may be generic trauma, but often sexual trauma, and definitely in life, they've been pushed to an out-group. When you're a kid and don't belong, you ask why. When the answer is that people who don't belong might be gay or trans (or have alters like the current evolution of this), it becomes an option but also an answer to some who are looking for a cause.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course the rates are doubling. What middle-class white kid wants to be the oppressor? Also, the easy access to increasingly deranged porn throughout their childhoods didn't help.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't see what the problem with LGB is. But good riddance to the T genes.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't see what the problem with LGB is

Well I don't care, it's not any of my concern. But if you thought they were defective somehow and did care, then it'd be a good thing they have committed to non-reproductive sex

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But it does reproduce physical diseases like aids and hepatitis. Not to mention the social degenerative factors. The wages of death.

[–]ShekelPa 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They reproduce through molestation before they commit to becoming a genetic deadend.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This doesn't make any sense in terms of evolutionary theory, as they would not be passing on their genes through molestation, just passing on a behavior, which pretty much goes against every working theory in biology which posits genetic similarity and the preservation of ones genetic code as the motivating factor. Considering your argument contains genetic dead-ends and reproductive theories, this is somewhat contradictory

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Homosexuality is not genetic. It is entirely the result of environmental factors. Homosexuals are made, not born.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fewer white men is never a good thing, especially hot hairy muscular ones with long thick cocks!