why do people become shills etc?

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[–]panel30[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This reminds me of how people talk about "-isms" (commun-ism femin-ism).

It's fun to do this and try to convert people, it feels good and like you're doing something important. At least it has for me. (uh, sorry guys.)

How do you just be a regular person without all this? It's almost like that's the exception, by far. It's like everyone is constantly trying to convert you to something. And I'm doing it too.

I guess there's a difference in honestly though. Someone can be participating in something without pushing it on others, to varying degrees of insistence and varying degrees of ignoring the targeted people and reality.

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Look how the jewish shill managed to derail your subject into a criticism of christianity and christians.

[–]panel30[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Is honkongphooey jewish?

I don't like the casual undermining of Christianity that I've seen in general in some places. Even if there are things that can be criticized it's not really a nice thing to try to undermine someone's cultural spiritual practices. There are at least a lot of positive things about Christianity, including missionary work, goodness knows there are times I wished a missionary would come find and help me when I've been involved in questionable things and needing help. That said, it's also important that it's ok to criticize in an open forum too.

maybe there's a better term for this sort of phenomenon in the domain of politics, consumer products, etc, than "true believer," which has religious connotations.

Maybe for politics "useful idiot", that also implies the "shill" doesn't know the real agenda. With drugs you can have a "pusher" though that implies nefarious motives. I guess "shill" is the one that came from commercial products. Marketing, recruiting, seduction. Idk.

I guess I don't know what to conclude re hongkongphooey based on this post alone. If he is doing that, well, that's not very nice and I hope he can find some ways to be nicer to others. And if he's not well that's great.

I have seen guides for shills or disinformation agents or whathaveyou in general, but I haven't seen a guide for spotting specifically jewish style disinformation. I don't know if such a thing would be useful or not.

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

One of the methods jews do is to project what they do unto their victim. So when he shills against christianity in this case, he frames it as if christians are 'shills'.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So when he shills against christianity in this case, he frames it as if christians are 'shills'.

Bro, your reading comprehension is really lacking. I said:

They aren't really 'shills' because they truly believe what they say, and aren't in it for financial gain

In reference to the true believers who I used christians as an example of. Someone who promotes their cause because they believe in it, not because they are being paid. While also saying some people truly believe in other secular ideologies, like liberalism, or conservatism, and promote it not because they are 'shills' but because they believe in it. They also want to 'convert' people to their system of morality. Its called an analogy. Interesting that you would interpret 'true believer' as a negative thing, I thought that was specifically what made one a good christian.

My entire point was merely that 'shills' are usually not shills at all, just people who truly believe in an ideology, but clearly you are either insane or not terribly bright

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You took a jab at christians, got called out, and now you're trying to pilpul yourself out of the situation, while attacking my personal characteristics. We both know that I am more intelligent and educated than you. And it's obvious to anyone reading, what you're trying to do.