I am an incel ama

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[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Are you an incel? Or are you MGTOW?

[–]AnimeRespecter[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Incel involuntary

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Hmmm. Is that how it works? I mean, if you had the choice to be with someone (I'm assuming you're a straight male), wouldn't you? Fundamentally, if you have the choice I think that's a distinction. If you're actively avoiding relationships (with women), that's different than an incel imo. For example, I was married and have three kids. My ex walked and I raised them (no rancor now, it's honestly one of if not my proudest achievement). I've chosen not to get into another relationship, and looking back, I got into my marriage because that was the path society defined. I'm glad I did because of the kids, but outside of them, I don't think I would have married if I knew then what I know now. It's just not worth it to me. I don't think that makes me an incel, but I definitely get the core ideals of MGTOW.

[–]AnimeRespecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

if you had the choice to be with someone (I'm assuming you're a straight male), wouldn't you? Fundamentally, if you have the choice I think that's a distinction. if I had the choice, but because of my genes I don't have the choice women reject me.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

My bad. I read that as "incel voluntary" at first. There's something to be said for not allowing yourself to be defined like that. You have agency. I mean, I don't know you from Adam, but I'd suggest learning to be happy with yourself. Improve yourself for yourself. That tends to build confidence and women love that. Nothing is absolute and not every woman is some Barbie doll who only wants a Chad. However, they absolutely don't want some lovelorn, desperate nice guy either.

[–]AnimeRespecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Not letting myelf be defined by that? I may aswell decide im an alien rather than a human. Its a statement of objective fact that Im an incel because I am KHV (kissless handholdless virgin). It doesnt matter what label I apply to myelf because I can plug my ears and pretend not to be an incel, but I am an incel, none the less.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think incel implies that you think you are owed a girlfriend/wife/female companion. Do you think you are owed that? Or do you think that, like every other hetero male, it's something you have to actively pursue. If it's the former, yeah, you're an incel and you should stop thinking that way. No one owes you anything. If not, then you're just a virgin. We've all been virgins at one time.

[–]AnimeRespecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No incel means man who ant get sex or gf. not every man has been an incel at one time

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think that's oversimplifying it. Incels not only can't get a girlfriend, they blame women and feminism for it instead of looking to themselves. I wouldn't call myself an incel if I were you. It has a violent and very negative connotation.

[–]AnimeRespecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

no all it means is a man who ant get laid or a relationship, and im tired of normies who only know stereotypes trying to corret me on definitions. I spent years on incel forums and youve been informed by buzzwords. You're talking about the blackpill. the blackpill is ideology of incels whih basically theorizes about what women want, what they find attractive, and why we dont measure up. blackpill theory states that women are hypergamous and their attraction follows the 80/20 rule. women find 80% of men completely, and totally, and utterly unattractive, and 20% attractive. There are probably hundred of millions of incels out there, but among self identified blackpilled incels to say they blame women doesnt make sense. Blame women how? If someone is, for example 5,3 and womens standards are 5,7 and up then he could blame himself for hving bad genes, he could blame women for having their standards, he could blame his parents for having him, he could blame feminism, or progressive ideology for getting rid of arranged marriage. And who should he blame? Is what you mean by "blame women" point out their whorish behavior and insanely high standards? The only way that statement makes sense is if you accept the bluepilled cope that incels can choose to stop being incels by having a better personality or something.