NEVER FORGET: Jet fuel doesn't melt passport paper.

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[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

IDK but once the paper catches fire in a small office trashcan, it can implode a reinforced concrete building.

[–]grassfed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]Alienhunter 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

If Jet Fuel can melt steel beams it can melt the ice caps.

[–]BISH[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If Jet Fuel can melt steel beams it can melt the ice caps.

Simply being alive can melt the ice caps, which is dangerous to mankind's future.
That's why they need to depopulate.

You see... They need to kill us...

Or else, we'll die...

[–]NuclearBadger 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know about you, but I always make sure my passport is intact when I blow myself up to save confusion later.

[–]Anman 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Doesn't melt passport paper? I barely world trade centre 7.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

So the feds (who carried out 9/11 so that they could, er, ... so that they could pass the patriot act which turned out to be super important?)

So the feds who planned 9/11, were worried that you, the general public, wouldnt believe that Satam Suqani was on the plane (even though he was on the passenger list). I don't know why they thought that, but let's stick with it.

So, the feds were worried that you wouldn't believe that Suqani was on the plane on which he was a passenger...so they planted his passport in the rubble, next to the other mashed up body parts and people's documents.

So that you'd believe it was Suqani. I think. And they needed you to believe that, so they could pass the patriot act. (Which they did not end up using for tyranny so it was pointless anyway?)

So to the feds, who are apparently desperate to pass the patriot act (for reasons that didn't amount to much) planted the passport in the rubble so that you'd believe the guy who was on the passenger manifest, was actually on the plane.

Is that...is that how people normally think? "Hur the skeptics will never be convinced UNLESS I put this passport in the rubble!"

Isn't it weird how over the past 20 years, the conspiracy theory has fallen apart far more than the official story. How many versions of loose change did Alex Jones make, every time the film was proven wrong, before just giving up?

If you think the feds needed to plant a passport to convince you, and you were unconvinced (and in fact less convinced because of the passport)...then...maybe they didn't do it?? "The conspiracists will never believe me unless I plant a passport in the rubble!"

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Funny how all the key witnesses at the site got conveniently suicided.

Funny how this all took place the day after the US gov were exposed as having over $2trillion missing from black ops.

Funny how building 7 fell from just a small office fire and was housing the financial data formsaid black ops.

Funny how recordings of local services were heard saying "pull the building".

Funny how the BBC reported that building 7 fell 20 mins before it actually did.

Funny how the WTC was riddled with asbestos that was too expensive to remove and replace.

Funny how the owner took out insurance against acts of terrorism just months before the plane struck.

Funny how there were no witnesses of the first plane.

Funny how they never released reliable footage of the plane at the pentagon and no debris was found.

Funny how no other reinforced concrete tower has free fall collapsed from a plane crash or fire.

Funny how hundreds of structural engineers contradict the narrative.

Funny how the rubble found cut beams and evidence of tampering.

Funny how video footage shows liquid metal pouring out the building prior to being brought down.

Funny how there was a pit of molten metal in the rubble for 6 weeks after.

But none of this is suspicious because the US government is saintly.

The US never operated MK Ultra.

The US never started the Vietnam war based on a false flag.

The US never sterilised native American women.

The US never involved itself in an illegal war in Iraq to gain control of oil.

The US never killed Gadafi to avoid the collapse of the petrodollar with the installation of the gold Dinar.

The US is perfectly innocent...

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Now you're just repeating things you heard on loose change...how many of those points were real facts about reality and not the inventions of infowars? How many of those have you actually personally checked are real?

So you think the USA did 9/11...why exactly? Because they wanted to pass patriot act?

I'll do some

Funny how the WTC was riddled with asbestos that was too expensive to remove and replace.

How many buildings is this true for? Is this 'funny' or totally common?

Funny how the owner took out insurance against acts of terrorism just months before the plane struck.

How long is the usual policy term for terrorism insurance? Is it common for the expiry to be within a few months? (If the policy is annual this would be totally normal).

Funny how recordings of local services were heard saying "pull the building".

Is that funny or would they be behaving normally, to ask all responders to leave the building because it's about to collapse?

Funny how hundreds of structural engineers contradict the narrative.

Is that funny? If hundreds of conspiritards say one thing and thousands or millions of rational people say another...is there an anomaly happening?

Funny how no other reinforced concrete tower has free fall collapsed from a plane crash or fire.

Show me some passenger jetliner-sky scraper collisions that didn't end in collapse, I'll wait.

Funny how there was a pit of molten metal in the rubble for 6 weeks after.

Evidence? And assuming it's true, why is that funny and not, say, totally normal?

Funny how there were no witnesses of the first plane.

Oh. I see now. You're totally fucking mental. Got it.

https://youtu.be/St7ny38gLp4

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Are you so naive to trust everything you are told by the government? The entire thing is laughably staged with so many discrepancies in the narrative that it reads like grade school science fiction.

If I operated a coffee shop for 85 years but took out insurance against termites for the first time and 3 months later my coffee shop gets eaten by a hard of termites, you would be there nodding along saying, "fuck me, that's normal as shit".

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Are you so naive to trust everything you are told by the government

That's a different question to: do you think the govt lied about the most important and scrutinised event in our lifetimes. So don't be silly

The entire thing is laughably staged with so many discrepancies in the narrative that it reads like grade school science fiction.

According to infowars. But you wouldn't know because you haven't checked any of the assertions you listed.

operated a coffee shop

Did you check whether they had insurance during the entire lifetime of the building

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

According to infowars

Name me one mainstream news outlet which has dared to contradict the narrative.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The narrative makes sense. Nobody needs to dare to contradict it unless it doesn't make sense to them. People who look into it, find that it makes sense.

People who believe without checking the retarded nonsense you wrote about "nobody saw the first plane" get to believe whatever imaginary reality they want.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There is no harm in asking questions. But to oppose asking questions that scrutinize the propagandised narrative and those who abuse their authority is dangerous. Only one major player questioned 9/11, look back at the interviews they did in the early 2000's and you can see the video footage now wiped from the internet that contradicts the media. Claiming infowars is wrong about everything without actually reviewing the footage is pure ignorance. There are interviews with those.who.were suicided saying they will spread the truth and have no intention of harming themselves.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Bruh. Firstly, prove anything, link to anything here, because I believe you're talking out your ass.

Secondly. It's not "asking questions". When there is a topic which has been extensively studied and reported on and witnessed and inquired into. You can't pretend that some fact hasn't been answered and "ask questions" about it.

For example. Let's say, what you ate for breakfast today, has been extensively studied and reported on. And thousands of articles have been penned about exactly how you ate your cornflakes, and everyone can watch you on YouTube eating cornflakes from a bowl.

If I then say "we don't know what he ate! They killed people for asking! Did he have bacon? Nobody knows, they won't tell us!" That's not "just asking questions", is it. Because nobody was killed, and everyone who wants to check, can watch you eating cornflakes. So if I said "we don't know what he ate because the mainstream media aren't telling us and you can't believe the government about anything" - I'm just being a flashy salesmen to rope in the paranoid conspiritards. It's not really asking questions. It's a show for dipsticks.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

For example. Let's say I ate toast for breakfast. The bread company needed to get rid of a bad batch and sold it anyway knowing I'd get the shits. I get the shits. Companies and organisations who saw me chewing and getting the shits but didn't see what I was eating do an extensive study and.find I was eating cornflakes despite the evidence that the bread company was guilty of foul play and those who witnessed the act of eating toast said it wasn't just that I didn't eat cornflakes, I didn't even eat from a bowl. The witnesses mysteriouslt all die of hanging with a gunshot wound to the back and the.bread company got away with the bad batch of bread. If you question the bread or any of the footage of the witnesses of the bread eating which has now been erased from common platforms, you are a science denier. Questioning the cornflakes? Bruh, you're a dipshit

[–]RamblingOtter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm on the fence entirely. I don't honestly believe that a bunch of people who went around on donkeys living somewhere in a cave had the brains and means to pull off an attack like this how it is described. Moreover, despite the publicity it brought to those groups, why is it that they never again managed to pull off anything even close to that magnitude ever again? Or is this where you come in with "our intelligence is now amazing" or something? I don't buy it totally.

I honestly do believe that the USA government could indeed lie over such a polarising event. I absolutely do. Governments have done it before and will do it again. However I am not totally sure what they have gained from it other than the Iraq war - which made no sense. Why Iraq when Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan. And the thing that really bothered me was in 2011 when the US claimed to have captured and killed OBL. The sole evidence? A crappy video released to as little fanfare as possible of them tossing him over the side of the boat for a burial at sea. Are you kidding me? 2011 and nobody has an iPhone? What are they recording that footage on, a potato? It's a joke! Aside from that, ten years after the biggest attack in recent American history, and they chuck him over the side of the boat? What, was he heavy? A bit stinky? Nobody had a plane handy to bring him back to the states for verification it was actually him and not one of his apparent several body doubles - as reported by several US media outlets in the interim? Nope, chuck him over the side.

And what with the Saudi nationals being flown en-masse out of the USA immediately after September 11th? Who were they? Why were they flown out?

And what the hell did Saddam Hussein have to do with the price of bread? Surely OBL was against him in the 1990s so that would have made him someway an ally?

Nah, not everything adds up. And that's from both sides. My thoughts is the real truth is somewhere in the middle. While the attack may have been carried out by OBL, I would not be surprised if there was assistance. Such as a security guard looking the other way, or when Hani Hanjura was struggling to fly that big ol' 747, a former US Air Force pilot didn't lend a hand...

Is the US capable of that? Yep. Does it serve as a pretext for military action? You betcha. Does it serve some of the Taliban's interest for the attack to be successful. Yep. Do you reckon OBL didn't for one second look at the after effects and think, oh shit... I am toast..?

Or do you believe these ill-educated donkey riding sand surfers honestly did have the intelligence to pull this all off in the amazing style and pinpoint accuracy in which they did?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm on the fence entirely. I don't honestly believe that a bunch of people who went around on donkeys living somewhere in a cave had the brains and means to pull off an attack like this how it is described. Moreover, despite the publicity it brought to those groups, why is it that they never again managed to pull off anything even close to that magnitude ever again? Or is this where you come in with "our intelligence is now amazing" or something? I don't buy it totally.

This is just your feeling.

You feel like people in a cave didn't do it -> I feel like the us govt didn't do it

You feel like they would have attacked again if it was the cave people -> I feel like they would have not done the first attack if it was the govt

And what with the Saudi nationals being flown en-masse out of the USA immediately after September 11th? Who were they? Why were they flown out?

Are you sure that's a real thing that happened in reality? Have you checked?

And what the hell did Saddam Hussein have to do with the price of bread?

You mean the guy whose invasion was predicated on security council resolutions? The resolutions which you could go and read if you were really interested? The resolutions which don't mention 9/11 once? Have you checked what Saddam was up to in the early 2000s in relation to the UN? I dont think you have.

Nah, not everything adds up

Certainly not if you refuse to check.

Or do you believe these ill-educated donkey riding sand surfers honestly did have the intelligence to pull this all off

If you insist on portraying the Saudis as a caricature...then no, your imaginary caricature probably couldn't no it. But the real life people who lived in and around the west, and had the insane wealth or Aramco and the bin Laden holdings behind them? Who spoke English and knew all your cultural references and probably dressed better than you and I. Who had attacked the world trade center before and promised to do it again - yeah I wouldnt put it past those guys

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which they did not end up using for tyranny so it was pointless anyway

The ACLU was complaining about the Patriot Act in 2005. I have a suspicion the organization was ruined to stop opposition, as they stopped caring about freedom of speech and their core values and became silent on the Act.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Are you sure burning jet fuel got on everything that was in the plane when it hit the building?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I suppose the thermite and half a million tonnes of concrete rubble might have torn a page or two. But then again, the indestructible black boxes were not recovered 🤷

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I suppose the thermite and half a million tonnes of concrete rubble might have torn a page or two.

The plane might break up as soon as the front of it hits the building.

Some of the other things on board fell without being burned.

But then again, the indestructible black boxes were not recovered

What do you make an indestructible box out of?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What do you make an indestructible box out of?

Passport paper 😂

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some documents fell from the plane without going through the fire. There were wallets, rings, identity papers, credit cards, photographs, and drivers licences.

Black boxes are not indestructible. They couldn't withstand a high energy impact, nor a prolonged fire. Surviving having a WTC building collapse on them would be out of the question.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Surviving having a WTC building collapse on them would be out of the question.

Weren't there reports that some of the passports were of Saudi's who were alive and well some other place? Or perhaps they too, survived have a WTC building fall on them 😄