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[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That "God" is either filtered through human minds or Satan himself. The whole reason he gave us free will was not to help us, but rather because he knew it would be impossible for us to never choose evil, thus he would be able to condemn us indefinitely to reincarnate into his awful matrix world. That's why he is called Satan, because his main goal is to get everyone condemned. He is identified as "the god of this world".

Megathius had an interesting take on this. He believed in three main powers: God the Father, the "just" demiurge of the Jews, and the wicked pagan pantheon. If he was correct both the snake and the god in the Eden story could be bad. However I do find it more likely that it's simply meant to convey a message and not be broken down and have every little detail examined. It may have been a coded message against the law theology developing in Judaism, much like Revelation is coded so the Roman authorities couldn't understand it. And because of this it was able to survive. Then when it was possible to say it straightforward again, Paul wrote obsessively about how knowledge of good and evil comes from law and always leads to condemnation and death. You can either live by faith and mercy or die under law and condemnation. This wasn't new; the same ideas are found in the old prophets and wisdom literature, especially Jeremiah 7-8. The Torah is newer than those books, Ezra and the temple priests made it up to control people, with the help of certain angels and previously written fragments. Ezra also despised gentiles, the exact opposite of Paul. Paul's view makes perfect sense; Ezra's reeks of self-righteousness and hatred.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

However I do find it more likely that it's simply meant to convey a message and not be broken down and have every little detail examined.

I think this is how we are supposed to view all religions texts, with the same level of metaphorical interpretation as if reading a Socratean dialogue. We should assume that the god and the devil here are aspects of the human psyche, that we would remain in torment if knowing we have done wrong. By showing remorse and seeking forgiveness by the victim of your sin, you might be redeemed. When we pick apart ancient texts as though they are literal in every sense, we become deluded into thinking there is greater meaning beyond this simple truth. Be nice to one another and you will live freely and happily in this paradise we have on Earth. Don't do so and be destined to live in hell with all the other mischievous sinners around you.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not quite. Earth is the opposite of paradise and is actually a torture matrix we're imprisoned in. The proof is right in front of you. There are real spiritual powers and the rabbit hole goes deeper than you think. It's impossible for it not to.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The planet has everything that we have evolved to require to survive. Therefore, given the right temperament, it can be seen as a paradise. What we create however, may not be a paradise at all.

If the matrix is real, it is designed so as not to expose itself by being too perfect. The game must have flaws, levels, enemies, and game over. Anything otherwise would lack challenge and therefore lack interest and lead to suspicion and unrest. Perhaps the opposite is now true, the matrix has exposed the NPC's to such a degree that we can notice the errors in the game and it is beginning to feel manufacturered.

I do enjoy these conversations with you, Vulptex.