Horse drugs? Are any of you smart?

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I’m trying to build muscle. It’s a pre workout.

I’ll talk to my doctor about it.

I work out a lot. I hike about 10 miles a week. I know I have to step it up for weight loss. I’m at the gym 5 days a week. And I eat healthy.

If you have any sincere suggestions, I’ll take them. But I probably wouldent take any drugs like that. The stuff I posted is amino acids. And it to help get energy to muscles.

Yea I’m fat. But I’m not looking for any dramatic weight loss. I’m looking for building muscles and slow weight loss iver a few years.

I think we’re all going to starve next winter. So I want to keep my fat around till after that.

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L-carnitine seems to decrease how well thyroid hormone works in the body. - WebMD

This could be a problem for your intended purpose, if taken in high quantity or for long/sporadic usage.

The reason I move towards drugs in place of supplements such as this is due to their unpredictable and often ineffective results compared to either long term healthy diet and vitamins or short term intensive stimulant use. So long as you avoid using any kind of steroid, you'll be better off just managing with diet and exercise than hoping an amino acid will help achieve these results. Going to the gym 5 times a week resulting in excess fat indicates too high a calorie intake, eat less.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You suggest NOT taking steroids, right?

I do eat to much. I am aware.

But I have been fat for a long time, and women love me. Fat for me isn’t a body image problem, I’m more worried about my health long term.

You mean like use cocaine?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I never questioned your motives or meant any criticism. You stated you wished to reduce level of fat, so rationale seemed irrelevant. You sought opinions and I gave mine. Calorie intake vs calories burned will always be the easiest and most sensible way to manage body mass over supplements.

Speaking from experience of trying mild amino acids, supplements and various vitamin combinations, I rarely saw benefit other than placebo. I know stimulants work, but as you are doing this for long term health, I guess this isn't advisable, I wasn't aware this was your aim at the time I first posted. I mean, your title refers to horse drugs...

As per the stimulant recommendation...Nicotine is an effective appetite suppressant and stimulant, for example, just a bitch to quit.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I could use those pouches. I have quit a lot.

I think if I want to take weight cutting more seriously, I’ll try coffee and the nicotine pouches.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Could try normal gum as a habit, it's said to work. The worst bit is getting used to the idea of being hungry. I'm at the high end of my max BMI, basically I get a bit of a beer gut. Whenever I cut the gut down, I just skip a meal a day and switch out foods for salad. It's amazing how we get so used to never truly being hungry, we just kinda go onto autopilot and just shovel food at given times. I mean, we need to feed the gym obviously, else we'd wipeout, but half the time I just get into bad habits. Keep your energy levels up, but definitely go with self discipline on meals.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yea. I like the replace meals with salad.

Do you eat out or make food at home?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Mostly at home, it's difficult to eat out without ending up with double carbs, and soon enough you realise that home made food is nearly always better than going out to eat.

Me and the waifu try to bulk cook where possible, it saves on cost and it's easy to freeze things like spaghetti bolognese or curry. It's been more challenging trying to reduce carbs for this type of meal, but it works for precooking the protein and veg in bulk and add salad later.

For work lately I've been having meals such as baked chicken breast, pineapple and green beans, or steak with bean sprouts and green peppers. Breakfasts mostly either eggs or yoghurt, no bread. Then in the evening we used to have meal, veg and carbs in thirds of portions, we reduced to just 1/5 carbs and added more veg for her, more meat for me.

Admittedly I slip into bad habits quickly, but normally with full fat coffees when I'm out. Since eating like this, any time I eat bread or pasta, I bloat like a balloon and fart for days...

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I understand bad habits. But if you work for most of a month at good habits, you can’t blame your self for a cheeseburger or some wings.

It sounds like your doing great.

I bull prep at home, like you a bit. But I just eat the bulk meal I made all week. This week was veggie soup.

Eggs for breakfast. Bull for dinner. And I usually have a low carb sandwich for lunch.

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Sounds good, high five to our healthy living 🖐️

I could live on soup in the winter, pea and ham mmmm. I reckon it's getting more challenging to keep excess weight off as I get closer to 40, and my build is becoming more square, like an English Bull Terrier. But my neck is filling out at a rate that I'll end up looking like a Bulldog...