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u/Americanmuskrat deleted his account
submitted 1 year ago by gloomy_bear from self.whatever
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[–]Site_rly_sux 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun - 1 year ago (19 children)
I know what happened. He deleted his account because of this long exchange
https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/9l93/pray_for_alex_jones/yy3v
AmericanMuskrat really thought hate speaker Alex Jones was legit, but Muskrat lost the debate when I listed the facts that prove AJ had successfully tricked Muskrat.
Muskrat couldn't accept that he was wrong about conspiracies and deleted his account rather than acknowledge he was wrong. Do better, other saiditors, don't be like muskrat or nuclearBadger or raven9 - admit when you're proven wrong and you won't have to delete your accounts
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[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (8 children)
He absolutely is a liar, trickster and a conman and I list many reasons here
https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/9l93/pray_for_alex_jones/yy9q
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[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (6 children)
His broad general conspiracies are correct thought. He knows a lot about corruption
No, he riffs and invents stuff based on what he heard on tucker, his parents' Bircher groups and Q chats.
Seriously, name a single time he was correct about general conspiracy or corruption? We can talk about what kind of decision-making led him to that conclusion and I think you'll see, he's a totally unreliable source of information. Even in deposition and the witness box, when that question was put to Alex - what were you right about? - he says only the gulf of Tonkin and Jussie Smollet.
Well, the gulf of Tonkin event happened probably before Alex was born and certainly before he picked up a mic. And because Alex takes the racist position on literally every opportunity, he happened to be correct about Smollet. But his racism has caused him to be wrong far more times.
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[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (4 children)
Epestine island
Alex didn't break this, he didn't know anything about this before it was covered in other media. And he has never acknowledged that Trump rode the lolita express so many times. For example, try this search, there are zero results.
https://www.google.com/search?q=epstein+site%3Ainfowars.com+before%3A2018
frogs are gay.
Alex doesn't know about which species of frog or whatever is in his story. He doesn't care about laws and bills or attempts to ban that chemical or where those bills got to in committee - and he'd have no explanation if the senators and reps he supports, are the ones blocking progress in banning those chemicals. Because he does not care about the topic.
He does not care about wildlife. He cares about convincing his audience that the elites are attacking their dicks, as a means to sell boner pills. He cares about concern trolling and signalling transphobic "virtue" to his listeners. The frogs story is only a vehicle for his hate.
UFOs
Alex doesn't cover UFOs and I agree he's right not to.
Pedofilia in the ruling class
He says he wouldn't let Brian Stelter babysit his kids, but Alex has never talked about trump on the lolita express or this world leader touching kids. I don't know what you're referring to here. Alex apologised profusely to James Alefantis for his comet ping pong coverage. So I don't know of any real coverage which Alex has provided here, can you point me to some?
Bohemian grove
Which Alex attended with Jon Ronson. Heres what Jon had to say
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/jon-ronson/
Jon talks about why Alex lied so heavily about what they saw there. On Alex -
You know, narcissists, the rules don’t apply to them. So, it kind of, it kind of doesn’t matter whether it was true or not… I could see straightaway that he was exaggerating what we saw and refused to believe that the owls were there for more innocent reasons then his Moloch theory
You know, narcissists, the rules don’t apply to them. So, it kind of, it kind of doesn’t matter whether it was true or not…
I could see straightaway that he was exaggerating what we saw and refused to believe that the owls were there for more innocent reasons then his Moloch theory
You asked me
Do you even know what you are talking about? Calling Alex Jones out, and not even knowing his content.
Yes, believe me I can talk all day about this. Sounds like, if you don't like his voice, maybe I'm more familiar with this topic than you are.
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[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago* (1 child)
Nevertheless, you can’t deny that he bring mass attention to valid conspiracies.
I absolutely deny it. When I think of valid conspiracies like
Manafort / Kilimnik spy ring
The secretive forces behind Europe's far right problem
The spies behind 2017 attempted coup in Montenegro
These real conspiracies are not touched by infowars with a ten foot pole. The conspiracies which alex does cover, are mostly totally fake and stewed in the racism and bigotry which his Bircher parents instilled in him.
Then there are the real conspiracies which Alex didn't just ignore, but had some weird part of. I do believe that infowars had some weird possibly coincidental advance knowledge of Erdogan's fake "coup".
https://knowledgefight.libsyn.com/knowledge-fight-2015-investigation-last-looks
Go to 2:15:00 to hear Alex in his own words explain how he believes his site was hacked to post a story about Gulemists overthrowing Erdogan....the fake/coup attempt happened the next year, in 2016
[–]SMCABwhatever 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun - 1 year ago (7 children)
Dude Muskrat isn't going to delete his account because you "won" an internet argument, as if he even thinks you "won." He stuck around through all sorts of bullshit with all sorts of members. You don't have powers, and I'm quite sure you didn't rattle him enough to make him leave. It's been said by people here who seem to know him pretty well that it's personal, which actually makes sense. You driving him from the internet when nobody else can, is laughable, and reeks of self-importance. Wow pal. Just wow.
For the record, most people can't admit they are wrong. Even you. Sadly, it's subjective, as silly as that sounds. Go through any of your post histories and find a time you conceded a point. I'll wait, and if I'm wrong, I'll eat my shoe. Oh wait, you're never wrong, I forgot. What was I thinking?
I am only joking about this Muskrat user, I don't really think his account deletion was related to me.
Which shoe are you thinking of eating? Are you going to stream a mukbang?
https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/9l93/pray_for_alex_jones/yyja
I will conceed that I didn't believe it would say that and you showed me it did. You were right and I was wrong about that.
[–]SMCABwhatever 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun - 1 year ago (5 children)
Oh it's a joke now, got it.
I don't know what streaming a mukbang is, so I'll just eat a normal shoe. Maybe a sandal? It wasn't a great example of you being wrong, and it seems to be the only one, so it's only worth a sandal to me, maybe half of one. But credit where it is due of course.
Don't move the goalposts please, you said, "find a time when you conceded a point" and that's me conceding a point.
No, not a sandal, you were quite clear above that it would be a shoe, not any other footwear.
[–]SMCABwhatever 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun - 1 year ago (3 children)
Do I have to stream it?
[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (2 children)
You're gonna need to satisfy me that it actually happened
[–]SMCABwhatever 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
Well that's pretty easy. I'll do it, have CNN and Salon write a story about it, and have some blue haired faggot make a Wikipedia article about it, and you should be all set.
Can I use a green screen for effect? Maybe some bombs going off? Maybe some fake weather and turn the fans on? Help me out.
[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
Whatever you think would be helpful
[–]CreditKnifeMan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 1 year ago (0 children)
He deleted his account because of
Covid
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