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[–]raven9[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Put a dead rat in front of a human child and say go ahead, eat it and see what happens.

Put some fruit in front of a 6 week old kitten.

Does the child and the kitten refuse to eat those things because they led sheltered lives or because they are unappetizing because they are not naturally part of their diet?

Now put the dead rat in front of the kitten and see what happens. Now put the fruits in front of the human child.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

My cats learn to only see kibble as food. If you want to switch animals to prey there can be an adjustment period. Throwing a rat in front of a starving child or kitten is gonna work better.

Human nutrtional requirements are next to impossible to meet without meat, that hasn't been pointed out yet. Where would we get the necessary protein or iodine, vitamin B12 without meat or modern supplements.

[–]raven9[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Ok so prove that. Put a piece of real meat in front of those kibble fed cats and video them refusing to eat it. I'd bet you $1000 they go crazy over it.

As for what anyone or anything eats when they are starving, that is not evidence of anything. I have read about neglected and starving toddlers eating their own diaper. That doesn't mean diapers are naturally part of human diet.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Deal. I got porkchops and ground beef. You want me to cook it, or try raw.

[–]raven9[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Raw. Not frozen though.They will go nuts. I have cats myself I watched the male cat bring them a dead mouse when they were kittens that had never even seen meat before. The little 5 week old kitten that got to it first was literally growling at the other kittens to keep them off it while he was eating that damn mouse. They damn sure never did that over a fruit lol.

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https://files.catbox.moe/qhw3r2.mp4

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[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I enjoyed watching that. Four of my cats love the same Temptations brand of treats, making me wonder what's in there that is different from regular kibble.

We can see in your video that there is also a bowl of uneaten kibble, so obviously the handsome Gizmo was not hungry at the time of recording.

Usually when I offer my cats real meat, they turn it down, which is weird to me. They may have become addicted to the GMO corn that is one of the main ingredients in kibble.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The cheap kibble in the bowl we got for the strays, just stays out for emergencies, he isn't a big fan. I replace it periodically, but that's been untouched for a week or more. He eats Temptations pretty much exclusively. He insists we vary the flavors too, right now he has Beef & Lobster, Turkey, and Seafood Medley, his current favorite.

making me wonder what's in there that is different from regular kibble.

You and me both. I was just mentioning in another thread that I used to make cat food for my dying cat. Human quality chicken and liver were the primary base, but after she passed I stopped making it because Gizmo prefers kibble.

I'm sure I could compel him to eat meat if he was sufficiency motivated, but he doesn't prefer it or even like it. He likes chicken by-product and GMO corn like you said. Which is mind boggling, but I guess we don't always get the results we expect.

[–]raven9[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of people believe cat food manufacturers have been putting something addictive in the cat food.

[–]raven9[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There has been suspicion for years that something addictive is in some brands of catfood.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is possible. Food companies and restaurants have done the same with human food, such as adding the chemical MSG (Monosodium Glutamate).

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Gizmo just had his breakfast kibble, next time he's asking for food I'll put down the raw meat. I am pretty certain he won't touch it. Will film.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Again, you only think that because your life is very comfortable and sheltered.

I was speaking to a Thai woman recently and she was telling me when they were young meat was scarce so it was quite common for children to hunt rats and lizards to eat for themselves. They never turned anything like that down.

You can buy barbecued rat on the roadside in Thailand and people's mouths water when they see them because that was a luxury to them not long ago.

[–]raven9[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Right. A cooked and prepared BARBECUED rat. That is not what I said. If you want to prove you are a natural carnivore go to the pet shop. Get a LIVE rat, set up phone camera to film you killing it with your bare hands and eating the whole thing raw like a carnivore would. You dont have to eat the bowels and the tail.

[–]ShekelPa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Funny you specifically mention a dead rat, of all animals. Clearly a biased take.

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    [–]raven9[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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