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    if it was an insurrection, it was the lamest insurrection attempt in history, full of incompetent people that didn't think through even the fact that police would be there.

    I don't think we can survey everybody that was there to gauge the true motivations, however people have already been acquitted by court. If this was an insurrection, then shouldn't everyone involved be in jail? The courts ruled against that, with only a few exceptions of crazy people that were doing crazy things on their own.

    Just like people fell for the Russia hoax, which is now admitted to be false, people have fallen for the insurrection hoax. Trump was clearly hated by the establishment, and they were going to do whatever it takes to get him out... but that's not democracy. People voted for him and for four years there was literally nothing other than extreme negative news that was for the most part lies.

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      As far as I know it was judged. People got arrested and let go after a trial. That's the evidence nothing was really planned by most people. Also "their workplace" is paid by the people.

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        I never said nobody was jailed.

        According to the DOJ, approximately 640 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds, which is a misdemeanor.

        More than 225 accused rioters have been charged with the more serious crime of assaulting, resisting

        Additionally, 40 individuals have been charged with conspiracy, according to the DOJ.

        https://6abc.com/jan-6-insurrection-us-capitol-riot/11428976/

        How many people were at the riot/protest? Some sources are saying 30,000, up to 80,000, out of which 40 are actual conspiracy charges. The other several hundred arrests are misdemeanors, resisting arrest, but nothing to do with actually wanting to overthrow the government.

        The question is not whether this was bad or a huge riot. The question is whether the majority of the crowd of 30K+ people showed up to overthrow the government. We're talking about 40 people who actually had conpsiracy charges, or even if we're generous, 300 people with criminal charges. That's a small fraction of those who were there. Not to mention that part of the problem was not enough security for whatever reason. Had there been soldiers securing the perimeter instead of dumb police offers who opened the door, maybe the crowd would have thought twice before going berserk.

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          Seems I gave you facts as well, which are more relevant to whether or not this was such a threat to democracy. Wow, plea deals, community service and home detention for those dangerous people. That will surely deter them from the next insurrection.

          This is weapon of mass destruction in Iraq all over again. Go ahead and believe the government narrative, as if they never lie or deceive people for their own sake.

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