Did the CIA try to Make Ukraine the New Bosnia? Former CIA Officer Robert Baer Describes How They Orchestrated the War of Ethnic Cleansing in Bosnia in 1992

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[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Oopsy daisy OP! You've fallen for some fake news! Whoops. Fake! Shame!

This purports to be an interview in Canada between Baer and "Milos Cupurdija" - a serb ethnonationalist and right wing blogger. It first appeared in fake news outlet webtribune [1] and was translated to english by serb-uk blog britic [2]

In case you think these are decent sources - the major ongoing events occupying webtribune's focus, besides how great putin is, are about an alien invasion [3] which has been going on for some years [4] and Marilyn Monroe was killed for discovering [5] - so, no, not reliable sources in the slightest.

Robert Baer has written many books, including one solely about his time in the Balkans ("Company we keep") and given lots of public speeches, but apparently, he only spilled these particular beans to a fake news blogger. Weird.

Meanwhile the CIA has opened its Bosnia archives early [6], you can go today and read all sorts of things about their role in the conflict, and absolutely nothing matches this phoney interview with a serb nationalist fake news blogger.

So - whoopsy daisy OP! You got taken for a ride by a piece of fake news! You'll have to try harder to scrutinize your sources in future, or else you'll make the same mistake again

[1] webtribune[dot]rs/ispovest-agenta-evo-koje-razbio-jugoslaviju-i-sta-im-je-trebalo/

[2] britic[dot]co[dot]uk/?p=213256

[3] webtribune[dot]rs/kineski-teleskop-spazio-znakove-vanzemaljaca-izvestaj-brzo-obrisan/

[4] webtribune[dot]rs/moguce-je-da-je-invazija-strane-civilizacije-vec-pocela/

[5] webtribune[dot]rs/cudna-teorija-merilin-monro-ubijena-zbog-saznanja-o-vanzemaljcima/

[6] cia[dot]gov/readingroom/collection/bosnia-intelligence-and-clinton-presidency

[–]raven9[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Bullshit. Baer did that interview in 2012, it went global and he has never denied it.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Explain then. Why is the only time Baer mentions any of this, in any of his many interviews and publications, with an alien invasion blog full of serb nationalist fake news nonsense. Is it perhaps because this is also serb nationalist fake news nonsense?

he has never denied it.

Show me any single time he acknowledged this interview is real, or any single time he repeats any of the facts or views stated in it.

[–]raven9[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Obviously he would have been warned to shut up about that but anyone who remembers the complete lack of action by NATO while civil war raged in Europe has to have known the only reason for that lack of intervention was because the Clinton administration supported it and in fact at one point both Clinton and Joe Biden supported a proposal to lift the arms embargo and ship American weapons into the conflict. Sounds very familiar right? You can be sure that would have happened had it not been for massive opposition to that from within Europe so if the US government supported the conflict then the CIA damn sure was involved in instigating it so Baer's comments in that interview only support what should have already been obvious.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

he would have been warned to shut up about that

What a ridiculous thing to say.

According to the English translators of the interview at the britić link I posted above, the fake news blogger Milos Cupurdija supposedly interviewed Baer during a marketing tour for a 2012 book 'secrets of the white house'.

Of course no such book exists, a total fabrication of this fake news blogger, and Baer wasn't releasing any book during 2012. In fact his book about the Balkans was released in 2011, and has no mention of any of this nonsense.

So one of these things has to be true.

Either Baer wrote a book, and embarked on an unplanned marketing tour which had precisely one stop in Canada, where he gave precisely one interview, to a serb fake news blogger who remarkably heard exactly what he wanted to hear. Then, the CIA, who had allowed him to speak and publish many times before, stopped him immediately after the single interview and warned him to shut up. (But not the fake news blogger! He was apparently beyond the reach of the CIA!)

Or, the whole thing was the fabrication of a fake news blogger whose outfit has spent a lot of 2022 warning its readers about an underway alien invasion.

The second option seems a lot more likely to me.

Look it's ok to take an L on this one. You got taken for a ride by a fake news blogger - I'm sure he'll go on to dupe smarter people than you and I. You can let this one go and check your sources more carefully in future

[–]raven9[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No. If that was the work of a fake news blogger the last thing he would do is invent the name of a book that would obviously never be published.

Far more likely that what really happened is Baer was dragged over the coals for talking about Bosnia and as punishment he was not allowed to publish his book.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ok so this is the version of events you're going with.

  1. Baer wrote a book in secret without telling anyone including his publishers

  2. He booked his own marketing tour without telling anyone

  3. The first stop was Canada

  4. The first interview in Canada was with a fake news blogger

  5. After this first interview on his first stop of the tour, he paused, no further interviews today

  6. During this pause the CIA got in touch with Baer

  7. The CIA were not able to put any pressure on the fake news blogger who published the interview

  8. Baer never again mentioned the book or its contents to anyone

You're saying you find that more believable than this version of events.

  1. A fake news blogger made up some fake news.

I don't believe you. I don't believe you find this version ^ less credible. I think you're lying, nobody can be so retarded as you're pretending to be.

Like I said, nobody will think any less of you if you admit you got fooled. They WILL, however think a lot less of you if you keep up the charade that you were right, like a baby. Don't be a baby. Be a man. Admit you got fooled and it'll be more difficult to fool you next time.

[–]raven9[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But no one cares what you believe GLOWIE. Oh that reminds me, which pedophile infested 3 letter agency do you work for again?

The CIA playbook in Europe is now clear since their activities in Ukraine are widely known. While in the middle east they fund and arm radical muslim groups, in Europe they fund and arm soccer hooligans. In Bosnia that was the Red Star Ultras led by Zeljko Raznatovic who went from being the director of the Red Star Belgrade Supporters Association to the Commander in Chief of the SDG almost overnight. The SDG were hundreds of former RedStar soccer hooligans. It takes tens of millions of dollars and training and weapons and logistical support to turn soccer hooligans into the fully equiped, heavily armed paramilitary force that fought in Bosnia, Croatia and Herzegovina and carried out all those massacres and atrocities and just as the same thing as can be seen to have happened in Ukraine. Soccer hooligans armed and funded by the CIA became the Azov battalion responsible for 8 years of attrocities in Eastern Ukraine.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a boring post. It's obvious that you're completely incapable of dealing with the matter at hand - namely, that you got tricked by a fake news blog.

Why don't we deal with the fake interview first, and then once we're done you can revert to the calling me a pedophile.

Why do you still insist that the interview is real? What evidence leads you to that conclusion? Try and answer without calling me a pedo. The fact that you cannot, and are lashing out, just makes it obvious to everyone that you got tricked and can't face up to it.