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[–]sampleusername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So you're saying that shipping heavy crude from the Arctic circle, Venezuela, and Iraq is somehow cleaner? Burning diesel to send crude halfway across the globe versus transporting grain to distilleries that are often located within tens of miles from the farms?

I should remind you that heavy crude is not a renewable resource. We have to continually drill deeper and further away to meet demand, and there will be a point where all wells stop producing. A smart person would start planning to replace heavy crude with whatever else is available in excess, and right now that happens to be grain. There is no avoiding the collapse of oil infrastructure, so you better get used to the alternatives.

[–]Dunwidit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Okay I can see how this is going to go. Please repost from my statement where I said we should be shipping crude from other countries or other latitudes whatever in grossly polluting super tankers... I realize I'm old so maybe I forgot that I said that so please show me where I said that. No? I worked in the oil fields for 10 years... Our standard for environmental protection exceed those of any place else in the world. We have like the third largest liquid petroleum deposits in the world... And unbelievable amounts of crude... We don't have to bring energy from anywhere. Sorry if statement somehow contradicts what you thought you read in my earlier statement... Or maybe you can put down the crack pipe and practice a little reading comprehension.

[–]sampleusername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not you that says that heavy crude needs to be shipped in, it's the refineries and the oil companies that are saying it. The U.S. is not equipped to refine all of the light crude that comes from the Permian basin, so it gets sent overseas in exchange for heavy crude that can be used. This is common knowledge in the oil world, yet you act as if you know better?

It's completely irrelevant to this discussion that you have experience in oil fields. Crude oil doesn't go in your gas tank, you need refineries to turn it into gasoline and diesel. And with global supply chain disruptions it's more difficult to source the heavy crude that refineries need, and the price at the pump goes up. Why is this so hard to grasp?

[–]Dunwidit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cuz I worked in North Dakota... And well I don't work at a refinery my understanding is that sweet crude from there was very easy to refine. Not sure where you're getting your information. And I can concede that I may be undereducated in this regard. But 10 years working oil fields in North Dakota I never once heard that there was any issue refining that oil... In fact it's the oil that everybody wanted. Couldn't get it out of the ground fast enough.