The word for adults who build trust with children to condition them in sexual matters without their parents’ consent or knowledge: It’s groomer.

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[–]StillLessons 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

The short-circuit in the moral wiring of these people is that they have no appreciation for the destructive aspect to sexual energy. Sexual energy is divided into the creative healthy side (procreation, love, family, etc) and the destructive deadly side (slavery, abuse, rape, etc). Somehow the people pushing this venom on to children are blinded to the reality that they are pushing the destructive side. They have thoroughly confused themselves into thinking "Sex is okay. Full stop." For them, the only problem is the suppression of sex. There is absolutely no other problem in sex. If it weren't suppressed, sex would be a wonderful garden, for everyone always. This is absolutely false and contradicted by the history of humanity, but they don't see it. Now they are grooming children, and allowing even their own children to be groomed. It's terrifying to watch.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

What? Next you'll tell me that BDSM is not a totally empowering, uplifting, and dignified activity and that children are not enriched by exposure to it?

[–]Heter0ph0be4Life 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Next after this is bestiality, then it's getting rid of laws against rape altogether.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I honestly don't care much for bestiality. Factory farms are ok, but a random dude sticking his dick in a dog that he OWNS is suddenly wrong? Like, it's just illogical that it's legal to kill your animal but not legal to fuck it, when they literally have the status of property, even lower than slaves ever were. And any laws of this sort ALWAYS require some dystopian level of mass surveillance to enforce. And that second reason is actually partially why I hate taxes so much. Like, fine, fuck it, steal my money, but at least don't spy on me. But no, "we can't have taxes if we don't know what sort of things you're doing and if any money is changing hands and that could allow TaX eVaSiOn so please understand, we MUST spy on you."

then it's getting rid of laws against rape altogether.

you really believe the feminists wouldn't melt over that? Right now the trend is making "rape" a "guilty until proven innocent" kinda situation for guys.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're overplaying death, and underplaying compelled sex. The implication in what you write is that it is worse to kill animals than to have sex with them. That depends on what "kill" means. The basic "kill" is to end the life of, but there are important subtleties that cannot leave the conversation. You are absolutely correct about factory farms. We agree. But it's not because the animals in the factory farms are killed. That's not the problem. The cruelty of their treatment while they live is the problem. There are farms (where I get my meat) where the life of the animal - from birth to slaughter - is humane and kind. Kind killing, you say? Yes. It is possible to kill without cruelty. But you don't fuck your dog except to be cruelly selfish. There's absolutely no other reason for the activity. It's pure narcissistic mental illness.

So yes, fucking the dog can be worse than killing for meat. The problem with factory farms isn't the killing; it's the cruel treatment of the animal. There is nothing but cruel treatment if you rape an animal. It's against the laws of nature, and both the rapist and the animal full well know it.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But you don't fuck your dog except to be cruelly selfish.

You never had a horny af dog hump you?

It's against the laws of nature

happens plenty in nature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XChF76VnDBs

There are farms (where I get my meat) where the life of the animal - from birth to slaughter - is humane and kind. Kind killing, you say? Yes. It is possible to kill without cruelty.

Delude yourself all you want, but literally everything that lives resists death as much as possible, regardless how desperate they become. Were the animal be aware of what is going to happen it would struggle and fight will all it's force. There's no such thing as kind killing. There can be less cruel or more cruel ways to kill, but the act of killing itself is always cruel.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There can be less cruel or more cruel ways to kill, but the act of killing itself is always cruel.

We are completely going to disagree on this one. I was present when we killed my dog - a faithful companion for 11 years - at the vet's office. I watched this death occur in real time; I watched my dog's life end. We entered the vet's office with a being in deep pain with a kidney condition for which any treatment would cause more suffering than good. I had watched her pain for days. The instant of her death was 100% peaceful. There was no fear, no cruelty. She was with us, and her eyes simply closed. She literally lost consciousness as though going to sleep. "Putting her to sleep" was the absolute experience of her death that I witnessed. Given that it was that or a continuation of the pain she was bearing (quite visibly), I know 100% that this death was the opposite of cruelty. The exact opposite.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And how does that relate to any way shape or form to killing animals for meat? You don't "end the suffering" of a healthy cow, do you? You kill it while it's healthy so you can get the best quality meat. Your mental gymnastics are almost impressive.