Lol, I kinda agree with him. In the bigger picture, while the pyramid of debate is fine in and of itself, when a dishonest individual argues in bad faith they usually never state their main point up front. It's something that really bugs me, motte and bailey bullshit. Whenever I've found myself falling for it in the past I ended up at the contradiction phase....THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, right off the bat, without even noticing until the frustration sets in. I'm merely contradicting them thinking I'm refuting the main point, not because I'm dishonest myself but because I thought I was refuting their main point even though they never stated it in the first place.

Yeah, the usual suspects around here can go fuck themselves, I blocked them. That pervasive, pernicious and systemic dishonesty makes me sick.