Name-calling is now against Saidit Rules

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[–]mongre 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

Anyone who wants to implement this is a commie faggot who doesn't have a clue what freedom means.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

God damn commie faggot pieces of shit cunt miserable ass licking gay boy cunts.

[–]mongre 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

It has already been in place for close to 4 years. But now it's clarified.

You are free to leave, free to set up your own forum, free to join /s/FreedIt.

[–]thoughtcriminal[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It wasn't against the rules to converse in the lower tiers as long as the conversation was already happening there. If it was in place, it wasn't being enforced. And if it is being enforced, saidit's rule are stricter even than r*ddit in this regard.

I probably will leave if it stays in place, but I'd rather have a conversation about it first.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It wasn't against the rules to converse in the lower tiers as long as the conversation was already happening there.

This is misleading. Repeating it doesn't make it true.

It was definitely in place. They made exceptions for subs off /s/All (/s/OpieAndAnthony, Ice Poseidon 2, /s/Incels, etc.). And they didn't enforce it in general subs like they could have. Things won't change (as you're insisting for unnecessary drama), but it will be easier for admins.

And if it is being enforced, saidit's rule are stricter even than r*ddit in this regard.

IMO, one simple rule of four with minor issues is worth it, to maintain SaidIt civility, free-thinking, and truth-seeking.

I probably will leave if it stays in place, but I'd rather have a conversation about it first.

It's always been there. Let's have a conversation about your momma raising whiners. ;P

[–]thoughtcriminal[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Things won't change (as you're insisting for unnecessary drama), but it will be easier for admins.

So things won't change but things will change for the admins (since it will be easier). Which is it, both statements can't be true.

(as you're insisting for unnecessary drama)

ad hominem, don't assume my motivations or make baseless attacks on me. We're talking about saidit and its rules.

It's always been there.

This is misleading. Repeating it doesn't make it true. You stated yourself that the rule was unwritten and unenforced. So effectively and practically and for all intents and purposes, it didn't exist.

Let's have a conversation about your momma raising whiners

Mentioning my mother which is irrelevant to this discussion seems like it would constitute dragging down on the pyramid.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

So things won't change but things will change for the admins (since it will be easier). Which is it, both statements can't be true.

Let me know when you notice a difference.

ad hominem, don't assume my motivations or make baseless attacks on me. We're talking about saidit and its rules.

They've been explained, many times, here, on the other post, and in chat. Repeatedly. Redundantly. Over and over. Again and again.

The horse is dead. It's in many pieces. Now you're just beating it into horse paste (not the good kind).

This is misleading. Repeating it doesn't make it true. You stated yourself that the rule was unwritten and unenforced. So effectively and practically and for all intents and purposes, it didn't exist.

I have 2 strikes, for name-calling, 1 objectively, 1 allegedly. You can't explain these without understanding that it is, and always has been a thing here.

Look at these discussions and links within, including coverage of this topic:

/s/AskSaidIt/comments/8tvc/shalomeveryone_is_a_full_of_shit_enemy_of/

/s/AskSaidIt/comments/8euo/saidit_survey_ban_usocks_and_uactuallynot_or_keep/

Mentioning my mother which is irrelevant to this discussion seems like it would constitute dragging down on the pyramid.

Maybe. Or maybe I'm just trying to make light of your repetitive tediousness which is dragging things downward. You see how problematic subjective content is - now imagine having to be admin over all this shit. They don't want to have to make the subjective calls that determine the fates of users. Clear objective rules are easier to regulate. You also see how this applies with wishy-washy bullshit lockdown mandates, etc.

My advice: quit bitching until there's something to bitch about. They've heard you. See how it goes. If it's worse, then raise hell.

[–]goobandit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]thoughtcriminal[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The horse is dead. It's in many pieces. Now you're just beating it into horse paste (not the good kind).

You're free to not continue participating in this discussion if you think there's nothing more to say. Your continued participation comes with the implication that you wish to continue it.

I have 2 strikes, for name-calling, 1 objectively, 1 allegedly. You can't explain these without understanding that it is, and always has been a thing here.

Sure I can, because name calling has always been against the rules IF it was dragging the discussion down the POD. So you getting strikes for name calling isn't at odds with what I'm saying necessarily.

Look at these discussions and links within, including coverage of this topic:

I only glanced through these threads but they are just examples of targeted harassment from you against specific users and calls for more censorship? What am I supposed to be seeing here?

Maybe. Or maybe I'm just trying to make light of your repetitive tediousness which is dragging things downward. You see how problematic subjective content is - now imagine having to be admin over all this shit. Maybe. Or maybe I'm just trying to make light of your repetitive tediousness which is dragging things downward. You see how problematic subjective content is - now imagine having to be admin over all this shit.

Tediousness and repetition aren't on the POD. Repetition is a powerful argumentative tool. And no, I'm pretty sure bringing my mother into the convo with a strong implication that I am a whiner (name calling) is pretty objectively dragging down the POD. But if subjectivity is the concern then this rule does little to change that since the entire sphere of free speech outside of explicit direct name calling is still subjectively moderated.

Clear objective rules are easier to regulate.

Sure, but a clear objective rule can still be enforced subjectively. I think your argument is going in circles a bit here. You claim it's largely unenforced, then give examples of it being enforced - so even if the rule is objective, it's clearly being enforced subjectively. You also stated nothing will change. If that's the case it will continue to be enforced subjectively. And if it's not the case, something will have to change.

You also see how this applies with wishy-washy bullshit lockdown mandates, etc.

No I don't really see how a name calling rule or subjective moderation on saidit applies to covid lockdowns and mandates.

My advice: quit bitching until there's something to bitch about.

Invariably, waiting until censorship is already occurring to bitch about it is too late.