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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But God is God. Philosophically He has an authority no human has, because He is the Creator. Humans are bound by His laws.

I don’t think answering this philosophically does justice. Perhaps you know that Satanists and Luciferians teach that we are our owns gods and can do whatever we want. Fair enough. But then they want to control our thinking and make us slaves, so it’s no longer about freedom to do what we want to do, but what they want us to do. We are losing the freedom to say and do things they don’t want us to do, like criticizing the Most Holy Vaccine and not getting it. Their godless utopia is no better than the heaven they hate.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is that paradox. If Satanism and Luciferianism is all about individualism and "going your own way", then why do (many) they endorse or support systems that would control other's thinking and make mankind slaves, when that is pretty much the ultimate definition of collectivism?

And I'm not promoting Satanism or saying that I am part of that here.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I follow the Old Testament, and most of what you wrote doesn't match what is written there. There is no rule against "criticizing or objecting God", in fact Moses argues with God. The "things you can or cannot say" is only that you cannot promote other gods since Israel at that time was a theocracy, so this was effectively treason. This is similar to not being allowed to call for assassination of the president in America. There is no "thought crime" in the Old Testament. There is no requirement to believe anything, and there is no concept of Hell in the Old Testament. Unlike "human dictators" who use coercion to enforce their rules, the god of the Old Testament is just giving rules of advice and warning that failure to follow this advice will result in societal collapse.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I am referencing to both the Old and New Testaments on here.

And whatever Jesus or the teachers before him in the OT may have originally meant in their words, all throughout history arguments from the Bible have been used or interpreted in different ways to help support ideological arguments on both "sides". We are only operating off the (mis)information about some things that have been established to more than a millennia ago or so.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Actually we have scripture itself which can be interpreted well using a knowledge of science and history. Most theology outside of scripture is garbage which can be ignored. You can see how I interpret the Old Testament in my weekly online Old Testament readings.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Intentional ethnicity? What a neat concept.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks, you are the first person to like it. I discuss it after the Old Testament readings, but there will be no reading this Saturday.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can I muse about starting my own intentional ethnicity?

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure but then we can compare ideas and debate them to figure out what makes the most sense. Feel free to post your intentional ethnicity idea to /s/nonmorons.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Could I ask you, do you believe that God meant for everyone to have the same kind of skin, hair, eyes, or facial bone structures? Will people in Heaven have different aesthetic appearances? Or did God's image originally want everyone to be one color?

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

God's means of shaping humans is evolution. Evolution implies that God wants people to be optimized for their environment, and therefore people should vary. The Old Testament rejects the idea of Heaven and Hell (Ecclesiastes 3:18-22).

The creation of mankind is first mentioned in Genesis 1:27 which I would translate from Hebrew differently. I would translate it as "So God created mankind in His own image; He created it in the image of God; He created them male and female.". Of course the image of God is kind of meaningless since it is never described. So the idea here is just that God and mankind have something in common, not that all original people were clones.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do believe that God makes rules and that you will be condemned to his Hell for eternity if you continue to question his actions. Hell is a pretty horrible punishment, and even saying that sounds like I'm understating.