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[–]StillLessons 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

The tone of this video is a perfect reflection of the fact that those creating it have zero clue what the fuck they are doing.

The title of the video is "Debunking Anti-Vaxxers". Okay. Who is this written for? Well... this is precisely the problem, and precisely the raw failure of writing crap like this.

The people who wrote this piece of crap wrote it to be watched by people who agree with them.

What's their goal? Is it for the already-convinced vaccine-using viewer to feel superior and more intelligent than those who don't agree with the message? Great! Check. That's exactly what this accomplishes.

Which is to say exactly, precisely, ZERO in terms of actually convincing anyone who might disagree or even be on the fence.

Is the goal to create a space where people who might have doubts about vaccines to come learn information that may sway them to your point of view? In this, this video is a resounding absolute 100% failure. Hint, guys: insulting people's intelligence does precisely nothing toward convincing them of what you are arguing. NOTHING. In fact, it hardens their attitude against you, preventing further dialog completely.

You've written a video for your own side to watch and feel good about yourselves. Congratulations. And this does what to change the actual on-the-groud situation with vaccine uptake?

Morons. Infinitely divisive non-compassionate morons.

It is important to note this is Gates Foundation money behind this video, explicitly acknowledged. These are "the smartest people in the room"? I despair for our world...

[–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

you must hate children and want to see them die. i hate people like you. get your vaccine or lose your job, that is how simple this is. if you need to be told what to do, then so be it.

you are fired.

no more job, loser.

BIDEN 2024

[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Okay...

Reading this I am split.

Either you are trolling or you are serious. I can't tell which. 50-50.

I will write this assuming you are serious. I invite you to talk to me. I will open this conversation - if you are willing to accept - with the guarantee that I do not hate children and do not want to see them die. In fact, I have children. I also do not hate you or people like you, regardless of what you feel for people like me. My language about morons is a mistake I regret, though obviously it demonstrates the depth of my distaste for the divisive and self-superior tone underlying this video.

Are you willing to open your mind and talk to a person who sees the world differently than you do? Obviously we disagree. Are you open to the concept that people can disagree heatedly on even extremely difficult questions without either of the parties being a monster? Or if someone perceives the world differently than how you perceive it, they must be shunned from society and starve if necessary? Is this what you believe? It's an honest question. I promise again that I do not hate you. It's not just rhetoric. The feeling isn't in me.

I genuinely don't understand your thought/emotional process.

Will you talk to me? Or are people like me only suitable to be scorned and die?

The ball is in your court.

On the other hand, if you're trolling, this should give you a good laugh... so be it.

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't bother, its a old troll.

[–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

i am not trolling.. i am making fun of the situation and i am making fun of our lack of cooperation.

we outnumber these motherfuckers that have stolen this country, and yet we sit here and run around in circles like dogs that chase our own tails.

you can bet on that.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I appreciate the response.

The great talent the propagandists of all eras share is making sure that the terms 'we' and 'they' are forever muddy. As long as the various people composing 'we' can be daily re-wired about which group is the current 'enemy', the circle-running continues.

Thanks again for the response. See you in the trenches.

[–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

See you in the trenches.

no you wont. you have already lost this war, but you are too blind to see this fact.

your family and your children will be enslaved by the new system.

the vaccines are simply one phase of this global movement.

you. will. obey.

these new leaders have the strength of a thousand hitlers and a million stalins.

have a nice day.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, lets move to a desert

[–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I despair for our world...

I will write this assuming you are serious.

IMO, you're right to despair. But perhaps you aren't cynical enough yet, since that's an obvious troll, and your apology for your language about morons is a mistake.

When two entities disagree heatedly on existential questions, they are enemies. The successful entity will eliminate the weaker entity. Our society has become such fantasy outside of real life that it's now considered de rigueur to give your enemies as many chances to destroy you as they need. Unless you're a leftist, in which case you need to do whatever you can to eliminate them.

Toleration for our enemies is why things are so screwed up now. If people kept killing the assholes who told kids they should cut off their dicks and pretend to be a girl, do you think it would be as popular as it is today? This could easily turn into a whole rant, but I'll just stop with that example.

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    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    strike 1 for advocating violence. unless you sweet talk me down to a warning you loverboy prettyboy schmiddy.

    The sooner you die from this vaccine, the better.

    [–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Sorry, I only sweet talk for money, and not less than $50K. So I will try using logic, and if that fails, I will just become much less active on SaidIt.

    As I have said many times, the sooner that most of humanity dies from the vaccines, the better. This is in no way advocating violence. There is no violence in morons choosing poison themselves, or in me looking forward to the result.

    In case you have forgotten the meaning of violence, it is "the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy". I have never advocated any such thing.

    [–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Completely agree with you

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Okay no strike. Please try to keep your death wishes very generalized. "the sooner you die" when "you" is a user here, is too far for site rules.

    [–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you, I will try to avoid responding to scum.

    [–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    reported for advocating violence.

    be gone, luzr.

    [–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    I am just advocating the covid vaccine.

    [–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    If you have not taken the vaccine, multiple times, i can not in good faith invest my time to speak with or to communicate with you.

    anti-vaxxers are pigs.

    [–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    If you have not taken the vaccine, multiple times, i can not in good faith invest my time to speak with or to communicate with you.

    Thank you, that is great news. Because I don't want to hear from you.

    [–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    blocked

    [–]proc0 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    This is full of strawmans and it doesn't even address the specific concerns of the current vax, which arguably is different than before.

    First off, biology is the most uncertain of all sciences, perhaps second to psychology/psychiatry (which could be considered part of biology in a way). Only a few decades ago, in the 1970's the government endorsed studies that said eating fatty foods is bad for people. They released a pyramid with carbs at the bottom, and fats at the top, meaning you should eat more carbs than anything else. This created an obesity epidemic that we're seeing right now, because people over-eat carbs and thought that eating fat would mean getting fat. New studies on nutrition say something completely different, and recommend a different diet. How could they have been so wrong and created such a huge obesity problem? Because biology is very complicated and one of the younger sciences out there. (also money)

    Unlike physics or maths, biology is constantly changing. There are many missing parts to the big picture, it's usually approach via trial and error, as oppose to a working theory. So in medicine when something works, often times it's because they tried it many times over and over, and they can see it "works", but they don't know how.

    We might know the basics of immunology, and "vaccines", but the human body might be doing something more complex that we don't yet know of. Again, all of this is at best 100 years old, AT BEST. Physics, math, for example, has been going on for THOUSANDS of years. 200 years ago people didn't even know about the basic structure of a cell, and 70 years ago we just discovered the structure of DNA. We only have a very basic idea of what DNA is doing if you put it into perspective.

    Obviously this video has an agenda. OBVIOUSLY. A scientific minded person is ALWAYS skeptical, instead of trusting something blindly, specially a young science, with special interests in making money.

    [–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    obviously you ahve an agenda to cause innocent children to become sick with an airborne virus. god has a special place for nazis like you.

    dont forget to wear your thermal underwear.

    [–]proc0 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    That's how you convince people you're right? I brought logic. You brought feelings and emotions. Cry harder.

    [–]MONKEYBALLS[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    i do not cry over people that just want to be sick.

    BIDEN 2024

    [–]book-of-saturday 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    the type of neckbeard content I would expect on reddit