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[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Damn Communists always trying to take power from the fatass boss and give the power to the people

[–]tootie 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Is that how it's always worked out historically? What is one example of a communist society that has actually functioned this way rather than leading to mass death?

[–]Doe_aFemaleDeer 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There's no example of a [edit: big-size] "communist" society ("communist" means no central gov't, just self-government by communes). There are examples of "socialist" societies. For example, my family lived in the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) - and rose from villagers (who were - before socialism, under capitalism - mostly illiterate i.e. couldn't even read or write) to become far better off under socialism (blue-collar 'non-aristocratic' men & women finally got access to higher education, year-round medicine & hospitals, more meritocratic jobs regardless of race).

As for "mass death" - there was mass death under Capitalism in our region (e.g. French capitalists invaded, looted & massacred people in the 1810s, then British capitalists invaded, looted & massacred our people in the 1850s, then Japanese capitalists invaded, looted & massacred people in the 1900s, then Austrian capitalists invaded, looted & massacred people in the 1910s, then German & Italian capitalists invaded, looted & massacred people in the 1940s, etc). The death toll from Capitalist wars outnumbered anything else. Because Capitalism grows by stealing other continents' & other countries' resources - and to get that, they start wars - and wars bring more "mass death" than anything else.

And that is why the most capitalist countries on the planet (Britain and its offspring, the U.S.) are still the most war-supporting countries on the planet.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As would every other type of society.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

While the US was passing the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, the communists were busy purging enemies of the revolution, sending around a million people to their graves. The existence of laws forbidding genocide, ethnic cleansing, and arbitrary executions is a constant reminder that if communists could murder the entire planet, they would.

[–]Doe_aFemaleDeer 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

In 1938, the U.S. (especially Capitalist CEOs of tech companies like IBM) were "busy" doing (very profitable) business with the Nazis. Ka-ching $$$. A constant reminder that if Capitalists could do business (at a profit) with Neo-Nazis or Warmongers - they would. Because, at the end of the day, all that matters to big CEOs is "profits for the Corporation" - nothing else.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers-willing-business-partners/303146/

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're aware that communist China and the Soviet Union had extensive trade relations with Nazi Germany, right?

[–]785064 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anyone who has ever been face to face with the Communists of the world for any length of time knows that it is an evil institution. The west has plenty of room for improvement but it is preferable to any type of totalitarianism.

[–]Doe_aFemaleDeer 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Lol, "the West" is the most totalitarian part of the Planet. Biggest war-machine & war budget on the planet. There's nothing more "totalitarian" and "evil" than never-ending war. And the leaders of "the West" loooove war. Because war is super-profitable and therefore war is 'fantastic' for the Capitalist investor (and for stealing taxpayer money and funnelling it into the elite's private pockets).

And, lol, "room for improvement". The most decorated veteran in U.S. history, Smedley D. Butler (retired Marine Corps Major-General and two-time Medal of Honor recipient) called out the West's wars as a total racket. He called it out 100 years ago - and yet the war budget has gotten even bigger and the wars have gotten even worse. Anti-war journalists like Julian Assange are in jail - whereas Bush & Cheney & Obama are all out high-fiving each other. There's no "room for improvement" - the war-loving Establishment Patricians have y'all Plebs by the balls.

[–]785064 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you've existed under communism?