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[–]Brewdabier[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

All police departments need this thing, end the long police chase's we all have seen.

[–]StrategicTactic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is two years old and has several drawbacks. It has a similar effect as tire spikes or a pit maneuver on the suspect, which can lead to a loss of control and collateral damage. It would be single-use between vehicles, which means more $$$ required (the same cannot be said for a pit maneuver), and only certain vehicles would have them. As shown, it requires the suspect vehicle to have tires of a certain size, which may be reasonable, but not is not 100% the case. It also has similar spacing requirements as a pit maneuver (the pursuit vehicle needs to be able to get close enough to contact the fleeing vehicle, with some room on the sides).

And lastly going back to the first point I made, it can lead to a loss of control on the suspect's part, the same as a pit maneuver. The reason many long chases go on so long is not because the cops cannot stop the suspect, but because they cannot do so safely. A high speed vehicle coming to a halt can cause significant damage in a great number of places, from pedestrians nearby to houses or businesses.

[–]Brewdabier[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is two years old

So do a search for a newer video, as for "drawbacks", https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/dps-use-grappler-bumper-to-safely-end-pursuit-on-loop-202 and this one https://www.azdps.gov/news/digest/92

Now as for cost on the Grappler, the cost is $5,000 per patrol car and $350 a net each time it's used. You only replace the net not the whole thing. no loss of control on either vehical as seen in both vehicals. Now go on and make up more crimin excuess.

[–]StrategicTactic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why would I bother searching for a newer video when you didn't bother to link it? It isn't my job to put forth your claims, fallacy user.

As for the cost, that was my point exactly. It costs money. Both an initial investment and recurring. I didn't say it was some huge amount, but with all the current cries for reductions, any amount needs more justification than normal.

As for loss of control, there is always a loss of control. You can point to video after video of someone who tested it and it will not show real scenarios. I am glad the ONE example you found (since both your articles are about the same incident) was a successful use, but it is still an experiment. There have been many pit maneuvers that have been used successfully, and some that have had much more tragic outcomes.

To paraphrase you, Now go on and strawman some more to excuse more government spending.

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They pop up after the posted video as recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1JOYK1h75A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esJ-Fo6XAv8

This is superior to a pit maneuver because of the grappling effect - holding onto the target vehicle after it's been neutralized