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[–]SubliminalCriminal[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

about a year ago, i took 3-4 capsules in the morning and then another 3-4 capsules in the evening and i did this for approx 45 days and then i just stopped cold turkey..

it did not feel like when you quit something that is addicting, i did not feel like i needed more, it actually felt like the kratom had built up in my system and it felt like the effects lingered and wore off gradually over a period of maybe two weeks, it stayed with me for at least a week..

i felt nothing that even rhymed with addiction to kratom.

just fyi.,

btw, the links that i have shown are for examples only so that i could show you what i am taking.. i am buying mine from a smoke shop outside of houston texas.

[–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Tolerance is not addiction. It means a reduced reaction to a substance, which may be accelerated if the dosage is increased.

Compare the price at your smoke shop to $70 for 1000 grams, at the top link. My local was $25 for 40 grams. That's a rate of $625 instead of $70... 9 times more expensive.

I immediately went online to buy quantity, and went through some crappy sources before finding the links above. Got some red (fermented), but meh. Some white can be good, but the green maeng-da works best imo.

[–]SubliminalCriminal[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i agree that changes in tolerance do not equal addiction.. but dont these two issues, tolerance and addiction, dont they go hand in hand in many cases..

when i took the kratom for 45 day, i felt no need to up my dosage to get the same effect and i felt absolutely no craving when i would stop taking it..

[–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe the tolerance thing is just a rumor. I'd just not want to rely on that for my daily mood, even if no ill physical effects.