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[–]Trajan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I believe this was actually tried as a ‘treatment’, with little evidence of success.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Probably because they were not interested in finding a treatment.

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    [–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Nothing you've linked to points to high testosterone being linked to homosexuality in men.

    Edit: just say "yes, Jet, you are always right" rather than delete it.

    [–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    For some, sure. For many I’d imagine they’d have been happy for a ‘cure’ given the complications being gay beings, particular decades ago when mainstream medicine was viewing it as a disorder.

    [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    The people dong the experiments were not interested in a cure. Just like the people who "proved" that cigarettes were not dangerous and don't cause cancer.

    "modern science" does nothing but make untestable claims about sexuality. Its very similar to the claims of god that constantly get adjusted when science disproves the last claim. Yet the testable claims that fly contrary to the mainstream propaganda are denied testing. Masculine environments reduce homosexuality. When confronted with facts like these leftists use anus rationalizations. They will say things like "its just that gays don't feel safe so they stay in the closet". A claim that originates not from actual facts, but from their anus. Leftists never question the anus rationalizations.

    [–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Tobacco companies had a very clear financial interest in covering up the risks, hence why they threw money at it. Who in the 60s and 70s was paying to hinder research into making gay people straight?

    [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Money is not the only motivator. Most scientists and academics are woke and have zero integrity to follow the science when it counters their world view. On top of that only those with something to prove were doing this particular research because it has no industrial use. It is political science. One only has to look at what they are doing to trans kids to realize the entire establishment is entirely corrupt and untrustworthy.

    [–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    With respect, you're all over the place. You're imposing modern political issues onto the 1960s and 1970s, presumably because it fits your overriding distrust of the establishment. I feel we could be discussing 4th century Rome and you'd still be expressing similar concerns with wokeness or Jews.

    The fields of research that we're talking about here were not 'woke' back then. The rampant identitarian left colonisation of these fields is a relatively modern phenomenon, certainly present then but not prevalent. You can see this from the topics of research, medical and psychological, that was permissible back then. In the 1950s and 60s behavioural therapy was being used as a supposed cure. The APA removed homosexuality from the DSM only in the early 1970s. You recall gay related immune disease? If you want to point to specific research or treatments and provide evidence of it being deliberately sabotaged by woke researchers/doctors then that'd be an interesting conversation. I'm sure there were some who were motivated as you said, and I look forward to hearing about them.

    [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You're imposing modern political issues onto the 1960s and 1970s,

    Homosexuality is older than recorded history and the homosexual movement is far older than theses experiments. It is absolutely absurd to claim that somehow politics wasn't concerned with homosexuality while science was studying it.

    I feel we could be discussing 4th century Rome and you'd still be expressing similar concerns with wokeness or Jews.

    ad hominem

    The fields of research that we're talking about here were not 'woke' back then.

    In 1924, Henry Gerber, a German immigrant, founded in Chicago the Society for Human Rights, the first documented gay rights organization in the United States. Accademia has always leaned left, and has always been at the leading edge of accepting and normalizing sexual deviance, promiscuity, and all forms of degeneracy. There has never been a time when secular schools were more conservative than society at large.

    The APA removed homosexuality from the DSM only in the early 1970s.

    ONLY?! That is entirely a political move. This is not the beginning of their political bias but the culmination of it. They literally abandoned science entirely to redefine an illness. That IS woke. It doesn't matter that the word woke wasn't invented yet. It is literally a betrayal of facts and science to pander to feelings.

    You recall gay related immune disease?

    Do you even know that AIDs is a condition that can have causes other than HIV? That AIDs existed before HIV? That when AIDs started spiking tens of thousands of percent the only common factor they found was that all the cases that couldn't be traced to traditional causes were all happening in gay people? It is not homophobic to call it the gay disease. It wasn't until faggots started purposefully donating infected blood in order to infect straight people that it actually spread to straight people. That is why to this day homosexuals are barred from donating blood.

    It still IS the gay disease. Sex between a man and a woman does NOT normally spread the disease. The woman has to have an open wound in her vagina for the virus to spread. When an infected man cums inside the anus of their partner the large intestine absorbs the fluids and the probability of infection skyrockets. Homosexual men and needle sharing drug users are the vast majority of HIV cases.

    [–]goatmeal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    that happened

    [–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    My understanding is that when they treat homosexuality, they use testosterone blockers.

    I can't imagine that increasing testosterone would decrease erotomania.

    [–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    That's because you treat fetishes with blockers. That actual does work for trans males, they stop wanting to cross dress when they lose their libido.

    It doesn't work for gays because it's not a fetish, parts of their brains are similar to the opposite sex.

    The thing is testosterone will only change the brain at particular points in development, otherwise it will just make him built so he'll be more attractive to other gay men.

    [–]ballooon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ah yes, another scientific study from an Impact Factor 40 journal.