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I've watched all of the media that I use to love turn to shit in the last decade. Myspace was great, for a time. Facebook was too. Digg. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Colbert. Chapelle. JRE. YouTube. Reddit. They all got mainstreamed (or ceased to exist altogether) and they all lost their edge.(self)

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[deleted] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun 3 years ago

I also agree, though - NO ONE on Saidit will agree with me - Colbert and some of the subs at Reddit are still informative. 'Last Week Tonight with John Oliver' is very good. The 'Daily Show with Trevor Noah' and 'Full Frontal with Samantha Bee' are pretty good. In the UK, 'Have I Got News for You' and 'Mock the Week' are reasonable edutainment.

On Sunday morning, I recommend: This Week With George Stephanopoulos; Face the Nation; Meet the Press; and State of the Union

(Other countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_morning_talk_show )

Chipit 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun 3 years ago

You realize you just rattled off a list of hard left and globalist propaganda outlets? This is the upper class media talking down to us, without letting us get a word in edgewise.

Why are you on their side? They're certainly not on yours.

JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun 3 years ago

I can't believe it, but I'm 100% in support of Chipit's statement here. (Usually when he makes sense he ruins it all with a following paragraph that negates it all.)

Billionaires pay millionaires to tell the middle class that the poor are the problem.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

I know some on Saidit might think this, but it's just not true.

If you refer to edutainment, John Oliver is the best of that lot (even if not that funny). He's not talking down to "us". Yes, his approaches are somewhat left of center.

If you refer to Sunday morning debates, right-wing people are included in those discussions. Stephanopoulos is somewhat centrist.

Canbot 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun 3 years ago

I know some on Saidit might think this, but it's just not true.

Do you have any objective reasoning for this, or are you just going to demand that it's true because you say so?

Have any of them ever talked about the insane amount of dead people associated with Hillary Clinton? Have any of them ever talked about the left wing bias of the mews media without claiming that there is an equal bias to the right from other sources? Have any of them talked about the overwhelming control of media by jewish people? Did any of them ever expose lies the media were pushing about Trump? like the claim that he was putting kids in cages? Have any of them ever talked about the incredibly disproportionate and unjustifiable aid we send to Israel and the dual Israeli American citizen status of sitting congressmen? Do any of them question the trans propaganda? Do any of them question global warming propaganda? Do any of them talk about the tyranny that is forced vaccination? Do any of them talk about how the Covid numbers are manipulated and untrustworthy?

What exactly do they do that ISN'T leftist bullshit?

JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun 3 years ago

^ ^ ^

Not just leftist bullshit. Both sides are bullshit, same team - for the ruling class.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Part of the problem is the lack of corroborated evidence for most of the items you mention. They cannot discuss unfounded rumours, lies and disinformation. Fox does this, and refers to it as 'opinion' because they have no evidence to support their claims.

Chipit 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun 3 years ago

They most certainly are, every single one of them, upper class media and they do NOT allow us scum sucking commoners to speak back to them.

JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

You should learn from socks' example. Just as he cannot see the propaganda aimed at him, so too, the MSM media that aligns with and speaks to you is still propaganda. They play both sides to divide and conquer.

JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

It is true. That glossy "reasonable" propaganda is aimed directly in your face for just your type. That's why you're so blind to it. If it didn't speak to you then it wouldn't work on you.

JasonCarswellMental Orgy 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun 3 years ago

John Oliver lost me in 2016 when he did a rubbish hatchet piece on Jill Stein - 100% bunk. The others have "Drift"ed with Maddow into the realms of the far insane SJW Left - away from the old-Left progressives. NONE ARE GOOD now. Same shit in the UK. ALL corporate media is 100% trash now. They used to be only part-time trash. Sunday morning pundits are the worst. I'd rather go to church and hear fairy tales that make more sense than their sanitized authoritarianism excuses. No wonder your head is so full of absurdities.

SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

Ease up on the leftism, eh? It'll be good for ya. Try some meditation

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

I appreciate the responses, Jason, though as you know, I am not assessing an alternate universe, and I also disagree with much of the corporate TV media. I obviously think that we have the ability to understand what's worthwhile in corporate TV media, and what's trash. It's not all trash. One could also argue that Saidit is a place where one can sort out the informative content and the trash content.

JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun 3 years ago

How much power does SaidIt have over you? Little to none.

How much power does the corporatocracy hole over you? Banks, media, government, justice, health, food, etc... Full spectrum dominance. They have think tanks, NGOs, TRILLION$ to spend maintaining their dominance by any and all means necessary - including their mafia monopoly on violence.

If it was simple the sheeple would wake up from their alternate universe too - yet some of my neighbours are simple and knew before I even started talking to them about it.

Sure there's crap on SaidIt, but you don't need to mine hard to find the gold here.

[deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

I think we're both angry with the 1%, but have different approaches to them.